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He was made a life peer (as Baron Carington, one 'r') to enable him to continue to sit in the House of Lords. Doesn't that mean that he would have first had to renounce his existing hereditary title as 6th Baron Carrington (2 'r's). His inability to continue to sit resulted from a change in the law about the constitution and powers of the House of Lords, but nevertheless he remained a peer by inheritance (just without voting powers). So, before accepting a life peerage to enable him to continue to exert political influence and to vote, surely he would have had to renounce his existing title. Life peerages are only available to people who are not already peers, aren't they? Am I missing something here?? Cheers JackofOz 01:58, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
This should really be moved to Peter Carington, 6th Baron Carrington, but I can't do it. Proteus (Talk) 17:22, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
A thought - you shouldn't say "He had an unbroken run of consecutive government positions for over 30 years" when he was actually in opposition from 1964-70 and 1974 -79. Also, in that sense , High commisioner is a diplomatic rather than a government position. Perhaps you should say something like "He was prominent in British Politics for x years, serving upon the Conservative front bench in both government and opposition and as High Commissioner to Australia.
We are given this fact in the article: "It might be noted that his family surname (which the family assumed in 1839 in lieu of Smith) and life peerage are both spelt Carington (single "r"), whilst the hereditary peerages are spelt Baron Carrington (double "r")." But what is the reason for this? Is it to fit in with the Thynnes, Petres, Blounts and Cholmondeleys? DavidFarmbrough 16:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Twice now, I have undone a revision stating that Lord Carrington died on 15 September 2008. I have not done so lightly, but I cannot find any other source which reports his death. Before reverting, can a source be quoted please? Informed Owl ( talk) 11:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)Informed Owl
Why has the protection of this article been removed? The anonymous vandal has pounced back almost immediately. The subject of this article did not die on 15 September 2008. Please stop this anonymous vandalism. Informed Owl ( talk) 21:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)Informed Owl
Is it "Carrington" or "Carington"? This page doesn't seem to know! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.67.157 ( talk) 03:34, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure that this should be included without qualification. Even a cursory web search reveals a report that he has denied saying it. e.g. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/lord-carrington-would-not-use-the-fword-about-mrs-t-8663285.html William Avery ( talk) 07:53, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
The arms' description is not correct. There is a confusion between fleur(s)-de-lys and trefoils. The colours are not indicated in a homogeneous order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.115.11.232 ( talk) 15:34, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
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Carrington's involvement with the internment of IRA suspects is covered e.g. in State of Emergency: The Way We Were: Britain, 1970-1974 by Dominic Sandbrook: here. I expect there are others. But I'm not sure if the topic is sufficiently notable for inclusion in the article. Any other views? Martinevans123 ( talk) 15:06, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
I've corrected 'rail bridge' to 'road bridge', because that was the one that Carrington's Grenadier Guards troop actually took. The rail bridge downstream was taken earlier in the day by American paratroopers after an assault crossing in boats, but the Americans hadn't worked along the far bank to the road bridge by the time the Grenadier tanks forced their way over. Khamba Tendal ( talk) 18:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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He was made a life peer (as Baron Carington, one 'r') to enable him to continue to sit in the House of Lords. Doesn't that mean that he would have first had to renounce his existing hereditary title as 6th Baron Carrington (2 'r's). His inability to continue to sit resulted from a change in the law about the constitution and powers of the House of Lords, but nevertheless he remained a peer by inheritance (just without voting powers). So, before accepting a life peerage to enable him to continue to exert political influence and to vote, surely he would have had to renounce his existing title. Life peerages are only available to people who are not already peers, aren't they? Am I missing something here?? Cheers JackofOz 01:58, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
This should really be moved to Peter Carington, 6th Baron Carrington, but I can't do it. Proteus (Talk) 17:22, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
A thought - you shouldn't say "He had an unbroken run of consecutive government positions for over 30 years" when he was actually in opposition from 1964-70 and 1974 -79. Also, in that sense , High commisioner is a diplomatic rather than a government position. Perhaps you should say something like "He was prominent in British Politics for x years, serving upon the Conservative front bench in both government and opposition and as High Commissioner to Australia.
We are given this fact in the article: "It might be noted that his family surname (which the family assumed in 1839 in lieu of Smith) and life peerage are both spelt Carington (single "r"), whilst the hereditary peerages are spelt Baron Carrington (double "r")." But what is the reason for this? Is it to fit in with the Thynnes, Petres, Blounts and Cholmondeleys? DavidFarmbrough 16:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Twice now, I have undone a revision stating that Lord Carrington died on 15 September 2008. I have not done so lightly, but I cannot find any other source which reports his death. Before reverting, can a source be quoted please? Informed Owl ( talk) 11:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)Informed Owl
Why has the protection of this article been removed? The anonymous vandal has pounced back almost immediately. The subject of this article did not die on 15 September 2008. Please stop this anonymous vandalism. Informed Owl ( talk) 21:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)Informed Owl
Is it "Carrington" or "Carington"? This page doesn't seem to know! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.67.157 ( talk) 03:34, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure that this should be included without qualification. Even a cursory web search reveals a report that he has denied saying it. e.g. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/lord-carrington-would-not-use-the-fword-about-mrs-t-8663285.html William Avery ( talk) 07:53, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
The arms' description is not correct. There is a confusion between fleur(s)-de-lys and trefoils. The colours are not indicated in a homogeneous order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.115.11.232 ( talk) 15:34, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
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Carrington's involvement with the internment of IRA suspects is covered e.g. in State of Emergency: The Way We Were: Britain, 1970-1974 by Dominic Sandbrook: here. I expect there are others. But I'm not sure if the topic is sufficiently notable for inclusion in the article. Any other views? Martinevans123 ( talk) 15:06, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
I've corrected 'rail bridge' to 'road bridge', because that was the one that Carrington's Grenadier Guards troop actually took. The rail bridge downstream was taken earlier in the day by American paratroopers after an assault crossing in boats, but the Americans hadn't worked along the far bank to the road bridge by the time the Grenadier tanks forced their way over. Khamba Tendal ( talk) 18:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)