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This venue is the primary meaning of Perth Concert Hall; there isn't even an article for the Scottish Perth Concert Hall at this stage. So, we really don't need the geographical descriptor at all.
But if we really must have it, we should treat it as a disambiguator and enclose it in brackets - Perth Concert Hall (Western Australia) - because "Perth Concert Hall, Western Australia" is not a locality where people live, like Broome, Western Australia.
Comments? -- ♬ Jack of Oz ♬ [your turn] 03:23, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
was a verbatim lift from concert hall website, suspect more of the under-cited parts might be from similar copyrighted sources Satu Suro 12:59, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Most of the article appears to have been a word for word copy from website - bit bewildered that no one has picked it up Satu Suro 13:09, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Perth_Concert_Hall%2C_Western_Australia&diff=198804224&oldid=196648015 they over wrote edelmans edits and did a word for word edit...~ Satu Suro 13:32, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
The copyclaim on the
PCH page is 2009-2010 the article edit occurred before that in March 2008, significantly by by a User using the name PCH Ogden with AEG Ogden as copyright holders on the PCH page. I would speculate that Ogden wrote this article first then used it as the basis for the PCH article, based on the information the WP article was first, especially if you take into account the citations numbers appear in the PCH text ocrresponding with citations in the WP article, while no citation references are on the PCH page to warrant them being there.
Gnan
garra
13:41, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Huh about 3 or 4 at the most these days.. But if you compare the website and the wikipedia article - technically from an outsiders view who has no understanding of edit history - could it be said that we are carrying a copyvio ? ... more or less the whole article can be compared word for word to the ogden website and as there is no attribution in the ogden website to their source ... do we revert to edelmans edits of 2008...? or what? Satu Suro 13:47, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
I've changed the ref to point to the non-print-friendly PCH page - that being the one with the copyright notice on it. Mitch Ames ( talk) 12:34, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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This venue is the primary meaning of Perth Concert Hall; there isn't even an article for the Scottish Perth Concert Hall at this stage. So, we really don't need the geographical descriptor at all.
But if we really must have it, we should treat it as a disambiguator and enclose it in brackets - Perth Concert Hall (Western Australia) - because "Perth Concert Hall, Western Australia" is not a locality where people live, like Broome, Western Australia.
Comments? -- ♬ Jack of Oz ♬ [your turn] 03:23, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
was a verbatim lift from concert hall website, suspect more of the under-cited parts might be from similar copyrighted sources Satu Suro 12:59, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Most of the article appears to have been a word for word copy from website - bit bewildered that no one has picked it up Satu Suro 13:09, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Perth_Concert_Hall%2C_Western_Australia&diff=198804224&oldid=196648015 they over wrote edelmans edits and did a word for word edit...~ Satu Suro 13:32, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
The copyclaim on the
PCH page is 2009-2010 the article edit occurred before that in March 2008, significantly by by a User using the name PCH Ogden with AEG Ogden as copyright holders on the PCH page. I would speculate that Ogden wrote this article first then used it as the basis for the PCH article, based on the information the WP article was first, especially if you take into account the citations numbers appear in the PCH text ocrresponding with citations in the WP article, while no citation references are on the PCH page to warrant them being there.
Gnan
garra
13:41, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Huh about 3 or 4 at the most these days.. But if you compare the website and the wikipedia article - technically from an outsiders view who has no understanding of edit history - could it be said that we are carrying a copyvio ? ... more or less the whole article can be compared word for word to the ogden website and as there is no attribution in the ogden website to their source ... do we revert to edelmans edits of 2008...? or what? Satu Suro 13:47, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
I've changed the ref to point to the non-print-friendly PCH page - that being the one with the copyright notice on it. Mitch Ames ( talk) 12:34, 12 November 2012 (UTC)