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Made some changes to the definition since it is fairly nuanced and tricky depending how it's used. Blooms usage for example applies the objective definition #2 about prior eras to his opinion of how future eras will view works published in our own era. One can't easily call a work of art published in our own era a "period piece" without the label having a high degree of subjectivity. However one can label a work from prior eras a period piece with a lot more certainty and objective measurement.
Also regarding this section which I moved here:
This is just a re-hash of the first definition and so much trivia - why movies, we could do the same with any dozens of art forms and make a lengthy list of "examples". It doesn't add anything to the article and encourages adding trivia for everyones favorite historical film. -- 71.191.47.120 03:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Similar concepts. Articles should be merged and sourced. Also consider merging with Historical fiction. Osubuckeyeguy ( talk) 01:44, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Would the film Old Heidelberg be classified as a historical period drama? -- Lo Ximiendo ( talk) 03:02, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
86.171.248.126 ( talk) 09:17, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
The incorrect titling of this article suggests that “historical period drama” is the principally encountered term, rather than “historical drama” or “period drama”. I don’t believe this is so. The citation, and indeed the article itself (which doesn’t use this term again in the body) doesn’t suggest that this is so. The words “historical” and “period” are carrying a similar role in the phrase, and including them both makes little sense from a linguistic perspective.
The problems with articles like this is that editors start using the full phrase in other articles, as if the existence of this page proves that it is correct usage. Once such edit brought me straight here.
This article needs to be renamed “historical drama”, which is by far the most commonly encountered term. If someone wishes to prove that the longer term is in common usage as a secondary term, they need to provide justification by citation. MapReader ( talk) 07:09, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 16:05, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Historical drama → Period piece – The correct title for this article is Period piece. That was the original title given by a trained historian with a film degree. We should respect technical expertise.
The redirect history for Historical drama ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) wiped out by the previous move needs to be restored.
It is still in Category:Period pieces. The recent move caused a disturbance in the category tree, with the following comments (thus far):
Only actual non-fiction history is called "historical". It is a subset of (child of) all period pieces, because a period piece can include fiction. I'd thought that maybe there was an English-language issue, but I'm finding the same terms in Britain. The primary ghit for "Historical drama" is wikipedia, followed by pages of ghits for "period drama".In the world of Hollywood, a period piece specifically refers to a film, TV series, or miniseries that is set during an earlier time. Period pieces often have high budgets and involve complex shoots, but the extra effort ensures that the audience is transported into a past era.
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Made some changes to the definition since it is fairly nuanced and tricky depending how it's used. Blooms usage for example applies the objective definition #2 about prior eras to his opinion of how future eras will view works published in our own era. One can't easily call a work of art published in our own era a "period piece" without the label having a high degree of subjectivity. However one can label a work from prior eras a period piece with a lot more certainty and objective measurement.
Also regarding this section which I moved here:
This is just a re-hash of the first definition and so much trivia - why movies, we could do the same with any dozens of art forms and make a lengthy list of "examples". It doesn't add anything to the article and encourages adding trivia for everyones favorite historical film. -- 71.191.47.120 03:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Similar concepts. Articles should be merged and sourced. Also consider merging with Historical fiction. Osubuckeyeguy ( talk) 01:44, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Would the film Old Heidelberg be classified as a historical period drama? -- Lo Ximiendo ( talk) 03:02, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
86.171.248.126 ( talk) 09:17, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
The incorrect titling of this article suggests that “historical period drama” is the principally encountered term, rather than “historical drama” or “period drama”. I don’t believe this is so. The citation, and indeed the article itself (which doesn’t use this term again in the body) doesn’t suggest that this is so. The words “historical” and “period” are carrying a similar role in the phrase, and including them both makes little sense from a linguistic perspective.
The problems with articles like this is that editors start using the full phrase in other articles, as if the existence of this page proves that it is correct usage. Once such edit brought me straight here.
This article needs to be renamed “historical drama”, which is by far the most commonly encountered term. If someone wishes to prove that the longer term is in common usage as a secondary term, they need to provide justification by citation. MapReader ( talk) 07:09, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 16:05, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Historical drama → Period piece – The correct title for this article is Period piece. That was the original title given by a trained historian with a film degree. We should respect technical expertise.
The redirect history for Historical drama ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) wiped out by the previous move needs to be restored.
It is still in Category:Period pieces. The recent move caused a disturbance in the category tree, with the following comments (thus far):
Only actual non-fiction history is called "historical". It is a subset of (child of) all period pieces, because a period piece can include fiction. I'd thought that maybe there was an English-language issue, but I'm finding the same terms in Britain. The primary ghit for "Historical drama" is wikipedia, followed by pages of ghits for "period drama".In the world of Hollywood, a period piece specifically refers to a film, TV series, or miniseries that is set during an earlier time. Period pieces often have high budgets and involve complex shoots, but the extra effort ensures that the audience is transported into a past era.