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This company has been advertising heavily on Wikipedia since early 2006. See User_talk:65.166.218.250 for extensive details. [text moved from article to talk page] - Jvhertum 12:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Penton Media has been subversively adding a large number of external links into Wikipedia since August 2005. By conducting cross-referencing and viewing user contribution logs unusual external link addition activity can be discovered. The is a list of suspected Prism / Penton Media link spammers:
A whois query on the first five IP addresses reports an owner of "Prism Business Media". The last IP address is owned by "Penton Media." Traceroutes on the IP address reveals three geographically distinct networks that are at unidentified locations. The link spam counts represent the number of link spam additions by that user. The begin and end dates represent the chronological range of active spam activity. The trailing name for IP users represents whois domain ownership.
How many more Prism / Penton Media agents are still waiting to be discovered on Wikipedia? If you find any please add them to the above list. ( Requestion 19:32, 17 February 2007 (UTC))
The following is a list of domains that have been extensively spammed by Prism agents. The purpose of the wiki special:linksearch tag is to be a tool to aid in the finding of hidden Prism / Penton spam agents. A whois query on the following list all report an owner of "PRISM Business Media Inc.":
Since Prism has merged into Penton the whois queries are expected to change ownership names when the domains expire. Please feel free to add newly discovered Prism / Penton spam domains to the above list. ( Requestion 19:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC))
The following is a list of domains that have been extensively spammed by Penton agents. The purpose of the wiki special:linksearch tag is to be a tool to aid in the finding of hidden Prism / Penton spam agents. A whois query on the following list all report an owner of "Penton Media, Inc.":
Prism Media and Penton Media are the same company so these two lists will merge in the future. ( Requestion 04:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC))
I count 5 sock puppet spamming agents, 131 external spam link additions, and 11 spam tag warnings. Prism Business Media has had sufficient warnings and they have blatantly defied requests to stop their spamming activity. In fact they have become covert in their spamming exploits by utilizing different temporary user names. This has made policing their Wikipedia spam activity difficult. I feel the only action left is a complete black listing.
This is your last warning. The next time you insert a
spam link, you will be
blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites
blacklisted as well, preventing anyone from linking to them from any site that uses the
MediaWiki spam blacklist, which includes all of Wikimedia and Wikipedia. (
Requestion
21:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC))
Hi. Here's what the opening section of Wikipedia:Avoid self-references:
There is a section in the guideline, "Writing about Wikipedia itself" that provides some exceptions, but I don't see any relevant to this article:
The only exception from the list above that could remotely fit is the first, but Wikipedia plays virtually no role in the life of this multi-bazillion dollar publishing company. Presently this article is just a 2 paragraph stub.
I decline to revert this article's self-reference a 3rd time, but I will ask nicely that for the sake of the encyclopedia, the following text be removed in accordance with the guideline above:
This is not about whether Penton Media is right to spam Wikipedia or whether anyone approves of it or not -- it's simply about Wikipedia's editorial policies and guidelines. It's also not about whether some Penton person or persons have spammed Wikipedia; no one's questioning that they did.
I will also note that, as written, that sentence can be construed by some readers to mean that Wikipedia has some sort of advertising program, which we don't. -- A. B. (talk) 21:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I feel fairly strongly that the line should come out of the article, based on the reliable sources guideline. Until it is published by a reputable media outlet, it is original research by a group of Wikipedians that we have no reason to trust any farther than the distance I can hurl a can of spam. Aside from that, there are some wording problems, but the original research aspect is really the show stopper. ✤ JonHarder talk 03:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, it's not Penton Media any more, and there's already a Penton, but Penton (professional information services) is pure marketese. Would any other editor _not involved with the company_ care to suggest a better title than Penton (marketing company) ? Pinkbeast ( talk) 14:04, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
"Penton publishes trade magazines, organizes tradeshows, and provides of online marketing services" as the following sentence. Great summary. WebHorizon ( talk) 17:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)WebHorizon
I still believe the "Data Solutions" section needs either to be removed or to be sourced to something other than recycled material from Penton - and rewritten in English. I'd rewrite it myself, but it's too obtuse to figure out what it means. Pinkbeast ( talk) 18:03, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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This company has been advertising heavily on Wikipedia since early 2006. See User_talk:65.166.218.250 for extensive details. [text moved from article to talk page] - Jvhertum 12:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Penton Media has been subversively adding a large number of external links into Wikipedia since August 2005. By conducting cross-referencing and viewing user contribution logs unusual external link addition activity can be discovered. The is a list of suspected Prism / Penton Media link spammers:
A whois query on the first five IP addresses reports an owner of "Prism Business Media". The last IP address is owned by "Penton Media." Traceroutes on the IP address reveals three geographically distinct networks that are at unidentified locations. The link spam counts represent the number of link spam additions by that user. The begin and end dates represent the chronological range of active spam activity. The trailing name for IP users represents whois domain ownership.
How many more Prism / Penton Media agents are still waiting to be discovered on Wikipedia? If you find any please add them to the above list. ( Requestion 19:32, 17 February 2007 (UTC))
The following is a list of domains that have been extensively spammed by Prism agents. The purpose of the wiki special:linksearch tag is to be a tool to aid in the finding of hidden Prism / Penton spam agents. A whois query on the following list all report an owner of "PRISM Business Media Inc.":
Since Prism has merged into Penton the whois queries are expected to change ownership names when the domains expire. Please feel free to add newly discovered Prism / Penton spam domains to the above list. ( Requestion 19:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC))
The following is a list of domains that have been extensively spammed by Penton agents. The purpose of the wiki special:linksearch tag is to be a tool to aid in the finding of hidden Prism / Penton spam agents. A whois query on the following list all report an owner of "Penton Media, Inc.":
Prism Media and Penton Media are the same company so these two lists will merge in the future. ( Requestion 04:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC))
I count 5 sock puppet spamming agents, 131 external spam link additions, and 11 spam tag warnings. Prism Business Media has had sufficient warnings and they have blatantly defied requests to stop their spamming activity. In fact they have become covert in their spamming exploits by utilizing different temporary user names. This has made policing their Wikipedia spam activity difficult. I feel the only action left is a complete black listing.
This is your last warning. The next time you insert a
spam link, you will be
blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites
blacklisted as well, preventing anyone from linking to them from any site that uses the
MediaWiki spam blacklist, which includes all of Wikimedia and Wikipedia. (
Requestion
21:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC))
Hi. Here's what the opening section of Wikipedia:Avoid self-references:
There is a section in the guideline, "Writing about Wikipedia itself" that provides some exceptions, but I don't see any relevant to this article:
The only exception from the list above that could remotely fit is the first, but Wikipedia plays virtually no role in the life of this multi-bazillion dollar publishing company. Presently this article is just a 2 paragraph stub.
I decline to revert this article's self-reference a 3rd time, but I will ask nicely that for the sake of the encyclopedia, the following text be removed in accordance with the guideline above:
This is not about whether Penton Media is right to spam Wikipedia or whether anyone approves of it or not -- it's simply about Wikipedia's editorial policies and guidelines. It's also not about whether some Penton person or persons have spammed Wikipedia; no one's questioning that they did.
I will also note that, as written, that sentence can be construed by some readers to mean that Wikipedia has some sort of advertising program, which we don't. -- A. B. (talk) 21:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I feel fairly strongly that the line should come out of the article, based on the reliable sources guideline. Until it is published by a reputable media outlet, it is original research by a group of Wikipedians that we have no reason to trust any farther than the distance I can hurl a can of spam. Aside from that, there are some wording problems, but the original research aspect is really the show stopper. ✤ JonHarder talk 03:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, it's not Penton Media any more, and there's already a Penton, but Penton (professional information services) is pure marketese. Would any other editor _not involved with the company_ care to suggest a better title than Penton (marketing company) ? Pinkbeast ( talk) 14:04, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
"Penton publishes trade magazines, organizes tradeshows, and provides of online marketing services" as the following sentence. Great summary. WebHorizon ( talk) 17:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)WebHorizon
I still believe the "Data Solutions" section needs either to be removed or to be sourced to something other than recycled material from Penton - and rewritten in English. I'd rewrite it myself, but it's too obtuse to figure out what it means. Pinkbeast ( talk) 18:03, 27 January 2015 (UTC)