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Isn't it nom de guerre that is the original French expression and nom de plume just an English invention. gK 18:27, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Shouldn't we leave in the repeated links? This is a list and I am assuming that a lot of people will read only part of a list--for example, they'll come looking for the real//pen name of a person for whom they know the pen/real name and will read only that one entry. — iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 22:07, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)
it should be in alphabetical order. - Stancel 12:03, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
I agree -- Manny 21:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree too! -- Anonymous 14 December 2006 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.247.26.200 ( talk) 05:55, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
To what extent is an Internet alias actually a pen name? It's one thing for Cecil Adams, who wrote the old-fashioned way previously, but for Wonkette? I'm not saying she's not notable or anything, but it seems out of place on such a list. I think we need to make a decision here and set a precedent.
Again, I've nothing against Wonkette (never read her, actually), but she seems to be the only one on the list that fits this description. -- BDD 03:09, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
I would add "Silence Dogood" the pen name Benjamin Franklin used at age 15. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.174.2 ( talk) 21:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
I would like to suggest that the “Famous pen names” section be split into a new page of its own. It is already very large and is steadily growing so it makes since to me for it to have it’s own article. I will be happy to do the work on this, but I would like to know what your opinion is on this idea before I change anything.
S.dedalus
01:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I just saw this. Is there another related meaning of "pen name" that's not currently mentioned in this article, or is that nonsense (that should be reverted from the Hot Pockets article)? 188.192.112.34 ( talk) 16:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
It seems to me that this article is western-centralized in the labeling of different geographical areas. Instead of 'Non-Western', 'Eastern' is a better title. Just as if western cultures have been more prominent in the use of pen-names. which isnt true. Hxasmirl ( talk) 22:02, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Ooh, I know, what about A. C. Crispin? She said on an Amazon.com thing that she bets everyone thinks she's a man because of the neutral initials and the science-fiction bias. Sheavsey33 ( talk) 05:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Here it is: [http://www.amazon.com/A.-C.-Crispin/e/B000APVKUO/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0], although for some reason the picture on the site is of a man with a very prominent beard... Sheavsey33 ( talk) 05:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I think some male authors use female pseudonyms when writing romance novels, no? Nil Einne ( talk) 22:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Most places where references could be added to this article seem to involve more or less well known works of literature - and to be very "verifiable", if not actually "verified". None the less, could I very earnestly suggest to anyone sincerely wishing the article to contain more citations, to add these him/her self - or, and IMHO this would be even better, leave well enough alone. Adding tags that will on past form just sit there for year after year improves nothing. -- Soundofmusicals ( talk) 09:17, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Most pen names ARE pseudonyms, of course - but by no means all - an author may very well use a variant or more or less spurious form of their real name on the title page of their books. If this is not used elsewhere it is of course a true 'pen name". "Winston S. Churchill", "Captain W.E.Johns" and "J.K. Rowling" spring to mind, but there are others- some of them referred to in the article. I have fiddled the lead definition to allow for this. -- Soundofmusicals ( talk) 00:55, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Seems the page for Peter Saxons categorizes it as a nom de plume but this page doesn't list the name. Ok to add? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klamactocrat ( talk • contribs) 18:50, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Also see original notes above. The paragraph that was supposed to correct this error was rather ambiguous (it was far from clear whether nom de plume was a back translation from French or vice versa). Hopefully this quite well referenced version is rather easier to understand. Soundofmusicals ( talk) 08:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
I've removed this reference to an alternative term.
I've never heard this term myself, and searching only shows it used with a different meaning.
If you want to restore this to the article, please add good cites for this usage.
Thanks - 189.60.49.251 ( talk) 15:29, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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Isn't it nom de guerre that is the original French expression and nom de plume just an English invention. gK 18:27, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Shouldn't we leave in the repeated links? This is a list and I am assuming that a lot of people will read only part of a list--for example, they'll come looking for the real//pen name of a person for whom they know the pen/real name and will read only that one entry. — iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 22:07, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)
it should be in alphabetical order. - Stancel 12:03, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
I agree -- Manny 21:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree too! -- Anonymous 14 December 2006 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.247.26.200 ( talk) 05:55, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
To what extent is an Internet alias actually a pen name? It's one thing for Cecil Adams, who wrote the old-fashioned way previously, but for Wonkette? I'm not saying she's not notable or anything, but it seems out of place on such a list. I think we need to make a decision here and set a precedent.
Again, I've nothing against Wonkette (never read her, actually), but she seems to be the only one on the list that fits this description. -- BDD 03:09, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
I would add "Silence Dogood" the pen name Benjamin Franklin used at age 15. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.174.2 ( talk) 21:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
I would like to suggest that the “Famous pen names” section be split into a new page of its own. It is already very large and is steadily growing so it makes since to me for it to have it’s own article. I will be happy to do the work on this, but I would like to know what your opinion is on this idea before I change anything.
S.dedalus
01:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I just saw this. Is there another related meaning of "pen name" that's not currently mentioned in this article, or is that nonsense (that should be reverted from the Hot Pockets article)? 188.192.112.34 ( talk) 16:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
It seems to me that this article is western-centralized in the labeling of different geographical areas. Instead of 'Non-Western', 'Eastern' is a better title. Just as if western cultures have been more prominent in the use of pen-names. which isnt true. Hxasmirl ( talk) 22:02, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Ooh, I know, what about A. C. Crispin? She said on an Amazon.com thing that she bets everyone thinks she's a man because of the neutral initials and the science-fiction bias. Sheavsey33 ( talk) 05:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Here it is: [http://www.amazon.com/A.-C.-Crispin/e/B000APVKUO/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0], although for some reason the picture on the site is of a man with a very prominent beard... Sheavsey33 ( talk) 05:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I think some male authors use female pseudonyms when writing romance novels, no? Nil Einne ( talk) 22:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Most places where references could be added to this article seem to involve more or less well known works of literature - and to be very "verifiable", if not actually "verified". None the less, could I very earnestly suggest to anyone sincerely wishing the article to contain more citations, to add these him/her self - or, and IMHO this would be even better, leave well enough alone. Adding tags that will on past form just sit there for year after year improves nothing. -- Soundofmusicals ( talk) 09:17, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Most pen names ARE pseudonyms, of course - but by no means all - an author may very well use a variant or more or less spurious form of their real name on the title page of their books. If this is not used elsewhere it is of course a true 'pen name". "Winston S. Churchill", "Captain W.E.Johns" and "J.K. Rowling" spring to mind, but there are others- some of them referred to in the article. I have fiddled the lead definition to allow for this. -- Soundofmusicals ( talk) 00:55, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Seems the page for Peter Saxons categorizes it as a nom de plume but this page doesn't list the name. Ok to add? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klamactocrat ( talk • contribs) 18:50, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Also see original notes above. The paragraph that was supposed to correct this error was rather ambiguous (it was far from clear whether nom de plume was a back translation from French or vice versa). Hopefully this quite well referenced version is rather easier to understand. Soundofmusicals ( talk) 08:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
I've removed this reference to an alternative term.
I've never heard this term myself, and searching only shows it used with a different meaning.
If you want to restore this to the article, please add good cites for this usage.
Thanks - 189.60.49.251 ( talk) 15:29, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Latest comments == Nom de plume == Latest comment: 7 years ago 24.156.41.89 ( talk) 13:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Nom de plume- update Latest comment: 7 Nom de plume
Latest comment: 7 years ago ago Nom de plume
Latest comment: 7 years ago 24.156.41.89 ( talk) 13:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)