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"Peckerwood" was used by my father, a white southerner from Arkansas, as a pejorative for white males who acted silly, stupid, obnoxious or ignorant. He told me that it was because a woodpecker lives alone in the forest and has solitary vices and other bad habits. :) Halfelven 05:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
It's also used by Italians in Kansas City to refer to non-Italian whites. I have no documentation of this fact, unfortunately. -- Raulpascal ( talk) 22:45, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry not great at editing. Heard this word used first time today from a client. Said it refers to a white supremacy gang in prison. Just wanted to clear this up. Never heard this before but all of the members where white. All had been to prison prior, all bad guys. If we have a trial and it is public I will cite the testimony and case as source.
The "other uses" section should be a stand-alone disambiguation page. Comments? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 04:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Peckerwood a term commonly used in the Northern part of California by family members not white but with relation to the subject which would not be in any way racial , but in humor. Pointing out the fact of white ethenticity of the close family member to be mexican. Peckerwood (Jacob) , Mexican (Alfonso) . Facts not fictional. RC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.224.9.143 ( talk) 12:09, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Geez, y'all have no clue what a peckerwood is. I'm a proud peckerwood out of LA but it's not like an organization, it's the "wood pile" of white boys with heart that band together when they find themselves in the correctional system. 173.184.17.90 ( talk) 21:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Very Common-From Older Southern Whites- A term used "Back then" to describe a man, who finding his wife in adultery, would tie her to a tree and abuse her sexually, or a white man tying a black woman to a tree for the purpose of rape. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WildWzl ( talk • contribs) 19:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
This is a racial term used by Southern blacks to disparage Whites. This article pretends like it's something else. It even uses sources and then misrepresents the sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.246.232.41 ( talk) 06:51, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
I have seen this word used as a slang term for woodpecker and a racial slur.
As a young boy growing up in Southern Missouri this word was used by older people as another word for woodpecker. Back then I did not know it was used to describe poor white sharecroppers. This is because there were no sharecroppers in our area as cotton was not grown there. Instead of Peckerwood the term White Trash was used to describe white people who were considered lazy and of low morals.
As an adult living in an urban area I have heard this term being used as racial slang numerous times. In this day and age the use of this word to describe a woodpecker died out when the older people who used it died off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thundercloud47 ( talk • contribs) 15:45, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
As usual, Wikipedia has it wrong. This was originally a derogatory term for southern whites, but is now a term of pride among white convicts, it denotes a white convict who will stand up for himself. It has nothing to do with Aryan nation affiliation. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
71.123.223.120 (
talk) 22:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Where I grew up (NE US) "peckerwood" was an insult used by New England old timers against anyone who was vexing them unduly. It was essentially used where a younger generation would have called someone a "dickhead", and to those who used it, it meant "dick," or, for more refined ears, "penis".
I've also heard it in the "redneck" context, but didn't experience that until much later in life.
I think this article needs some more research. :)
Yet another reference: it has been used in Appalachian English for a "stupid person" -- not specifically white, but the mountain cultural context is overwhelmingly white, so in that context it has no racial overtones. I've got a source, even: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham ( talk • contribs) 17:38, 21 September 2015
References
This source from the ADL (which is in a frustrating fake-magazine Flash format) says that the term "peckerwood" is used by a lot of different gangs and wannabe gangs but is clear that this is just a loosely defined subculture, not a national organization. It also makes it clear that many local prisons/police/etc. use the term as a catch-all, which has caused a lot of confusion. For this reason, I don't think the single sentence "The Peckerwoods are a nationwide street gang reported in Green Bay and Sheboygan" from this Wisconsin DOJ PDF is usable as a source here. For reasons described in the ADL source, it's impossible to know what the Wisconsin source is even talking about without more context. Grayfell ( talk) 22:53, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
I like infoboxes, but in this case it's making something vague and complicated a bit too simple. There is no monolithic "peckerwood" gang, so the infobox is very misleading. It's all sourced, but it doesn't apply to any one single group, just a patchwork of groups that may not even be connected at all. Saying that the Peckerwood gang is affiliated with La Familia Michoacana based on the source is a good demonstration of this. The source says that among 52 people arrested in a case, one was a peckerwood, and two were part of La Familia. That's not really enough to go on here. This was more about drug trafficking, not gang affiliation, so making a very broad claim about gang affiliation for a "gang" that doesn't actually exist is not acceptable. I think it would be much better to remove the gang infobox. Except for 'ethnicity', it has no items that apply to every peckerwood gang, so I'm not sure what it's accomplishing. Grayfell ( talk) 23:12, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
We need to distinguish the line between the word/prison slang for white prisoner AND the name of the gang "Peckerwood" that is on the streets. It is a title of a gang like Blood or Crip. "They are the Crips" "He is a crip" "He is a Crip member" would be the same thing. QubixQdotta ( talk) 01:58, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I just want to add on some things and for some reason doing it fresh was kinda difficult, it wasn't seems like it understands what I'm typing out. Anyways, that why I reverted it to an old version, and beside I changed that one too on my FREAKING Xbox One, so that why. Ks159081 ( talk) 7:43 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Italics are appropriate when discussing the term peckerwood, as per both MOS:LEADSENTENCE and WP:WORDSASWORDS generally. They are needed to make the use-mention distinction clear for the reader, as we're mentioning the term as a term, not just using it in a sentence.-- Cúchullain t/ c 02:28, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
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I agree with
BMK, as "peckerwood" does not appear to be the title of any type of media (for example). OAN: I also think this article should be moved to
Peckerwood (slang) and then the original title should redirect to
Woodpecker with a hatnote along the lines of:
|
The "Differences between gangs and subculture" section consisted entirely of unsourced declarative statements, which is a violation of WP:V and WP:RS, so I removed it from the article. I've posted it below, so that parts of it can be restored to the article with the proper support of citations from reliable sources. Any material which is restored without references will be deleted again, and repeated actions of this kind will be reported for sanctioning.
The task is simple: take a statement or group of statements, find a source that supports ihe information, then restore that information with a reference to that source.
==Differences between gangs and subculture== Ironically, there is a misconception about the term "peckerwood". Critics assume a peckerwood is a racist, neo-nazi white supremacist gang member. However, majority of peckerwoods claim not to be gangbangers. According to some peckerwoods, the difference between the peckerwood subculture and the peckerwood prison gang population is the peckerwood subculture does not condone any criminal activities or a group of racist bigots. The peckerwood subculture is majorily white, however Hispanics, Europeans, Native Americans and minority Asians are recently joining the subculture. African americans were not allowed to join, due to the fact that blacks invented the term "peckerwood" as a racist slur, which may be an assuming reason why African-Americans were not permitted. Peckerwoods also borrow elements of [[Nazism]] and [[Neo-Confederate]] paraphernalia (right wing extremism, white nationalism, white seperatism, fascism, xenophobia, Islamophobia, Southern Nationalism). Peckerwoods deny themselves being racist, however they support a favor of [[anti-Semitism]] and rejects a racist ideology of [[White Supremacy]]. === Nazism === The Peckerwoods' main ideology subscribed to is Nazism, inspired by the teachings of [[Adolf Hitler]]. Peckerwoods are also [[Neo-Confederate]] as well (such as honoring soldiers of the Confederacy). Despite the Peckerwoods' rejection of [[White supremacy]], they show loyal support to the [[Nazi Low Riders]]. === Allies === Peckerwoods have no official allies but they do support right wing, political groups. They have typical allegiance to the Nazi Low Riders. Peckerwoods do ally themselves with [[Nazi punk| Nazi punks]], [[National Socialist black metal| NSBM metalheads]], and [[Rock Against Communism| RAC rockers]]. Peckerwoods also favor music such as [[Hardcore punk]], [[Horrorcore]] rap, Rock Against Communism (RAC), Punk rock, [[Speed metal]] and [[Grindcore]]. === Rivals === Peckerwoods are in a political conflict against radical leftists as they pair up with right wing extremists. They also tend to share the same rivals the Nazi Low Riders have, such as [[Bloods]], [[Crips]], [[Black Guerrilla Family]], [[Mara Salvatrucha]], [[Norteños]], and [[Latin Kings]]. When it comes to involvement in a political war, the Peckerwoods' main rivals are Red and Anarchist Skinheads, [[Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice]], [[Antifa]], [[Black Lives Matter]] and [[Social Justice Warriors]]. Peckerwoods also believes to have a deep hostility towards the [[Jewish Defense League]]. === Religous aspects in the Peckerwood subculture === Although the Peckerwoods subculture has no official religion, most Peckerwoods favor in [[Christianity]] as the subculture's main religion. The subculture tends to maintain an Anti-Semitic attitude. However, 67% of the Peckerwoods mostly convert to [[Heathenism| Nordic paganism]] or [[Satanism]] cause they believe Christianity is a form of Judaism.
Beyond My Ken ( talk) 07:53, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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"Peckerwood" was used by my father, a white southerner from Arkansas, as a pejorative for white males who acted silly, stupid, obnoxious or ignorant. He told me that it was because a woodpecker lives alone in the forest and has solitary vices and other bad habits. :) Halfelven 05:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
It's also used by Italians in Kansas City to refer to non-Italian whites. I have no documentation of this fact, unfortunately. -- Raulpascal ( talk) 22:45, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry not great at editing. Heard this word used first time today from a client. Said it refers to a white supremacy gang in prison. Just wanted to clear this up. Never heard this before but all of the members where white. All had been to prison prior, all bad guys. If we have a trial and it is public I will cite the testimony and case as source.
The "other uses" section should be a stand-alone disambiguation page. Comments? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 04:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Peckerwood a term commonly used in the Northern part of California by family members not white but with relation to the subject which would not be in any way racial , but in humor. Pointing out the fact of white ethenticity of the close family member to be mexican. Peckerwood (Jacob) , Mexican (Alfonso) . Facts not fictional. RC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.224.9.143 ( talk) 12:09, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Geez, y'all have no clue what a peckerwood is. I'm a proud peckerwood out of LA but it's not like an organization, it's the "wood pile" of white boys with heart that band together when they find themselves in the correctional system. 173.184.17.90 ( talk) 21:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Very Common-From Older Southern Whites- A term used "Back then" to describe a man, who finding his wife in adultery, would tie her to a tree and abuse her sexually, or a white man tying a black woman to a tree for the purpose of rape. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WildWzl ( talk • contribs) 19:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
This is a racial term used by Southern blacks to disparage Whites. This article pretends like it's something else. It even uses sources and then misrepresents the sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.246.232.41 ( talk) 06:51, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
I have seen this word used as a slang term for woodpecker and a racial slur.
As a young boy growing up in Southern Missouri this word was used by older people as another word for woodpecker. Back then I did not know it was used to describe poor white sharecroppers. This is because there were no sharecroppers in our area as cotton was not grown there. Instead of Peckerwood the term White Trash was used to describe white people who were considered lazy and of low morals.
As an adult living in an urban area I have heard this term being used as racial slang numerous times. In this day and age the use of this word to describe a woodpecker died out when the older people who used it died off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thundercloud47 ( talk • contribs) 15:45, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
As usual, Wikipedia has it wrong. This was originally a derogatory term for southern whites, but is now a term of pride among white convicts, it denotes a white convict who will stand up for himself. It has nothing to do with Aryan nation affiliation. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
71.123.223.120 (
talk) 22:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Where I grew up (NE US) "peckerwood" was an insult used by New England old timers against anyone who was vexing them unduly. It was essentially used where a younger generation would have called someone a "dickhead", and to those who used it, it meant "dick," or, for more refined ears, "penis".
I've also heard it in the "redneck" context, but didn't experience that until much later in life.
I think this article needs some more research. :)
Yet another reference: it has been used in Appalachian English for a "stupid person" -- not specifically white, but the mountain cultural context is overwhelmingly white, so in that context it has no racial overtones. I've got a source, even: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham ( talk • contribs) 17:38, 21 September 2015
References
This source from the ADL (which is in a frustrating fake-magazine Flash format) says that the term "peckerwood" is used by a lot of different gangs and wannabe gangs but is clear that this is just a loosely defined subculture, not a national organization. It also makes it clear that many local prisons/police/etc. use the term as a catch-all, which has caused a lot of confusion. For this reason, I don't think the single sentence "The Peckerwoods are a nationwide street gang reported in Green Bay and Sheboygan" from this Wisconsin DOJ PDF is usable as a source here. For reasons described in the ADL source, it's impossible to know what the Wisconsin source is even talking about without more context. Grayfell ( talk) 22:53, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
I like infoboxes, but in this case it's making something vague and complicated a bit too simple. There is no monolithic "peckerwood" gang, so the infobox is very misleading. It's all sourced, but it doesn't apply to any one single group, just a patchwork of groups that may not even be connected at all. Saying that the Peckerwood gang is affiliated with La Familia Michoacana based on the source is a good demonstration of this. The source says that among 52 people arrested in a case, one was a peckerwood, and two were part of La Familia. That's not really enough to go on here. This was more about drug trafficking, not gang affiliation, so making a very broad claim about gang affiliation for a "gang" that doesn't actually exist is not acceptable. I think it would be much better to remove the gang infobox. Except for 'ethnicity', it has no items that apply to every peckerwood gang, so I'm not sure what it's accomplishing. Grayfell ( talk) 23:12, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
We need to distinguish the line between the word/prison slang for white prisoner AND the name of the gang "Peckerwood" that is on the streets. It is a title of a gang like Blood or Crip. "They are the Crips" "He is a crip" "He is a Crip member" would be the same thing. QubixQdotta ( talk) 01:58, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I just want to add on some things and for some reason doing it fresh was kinda difficult, it wasn't seems like it understands what I'm typing out. Anyways, that why I reverted it to an old version, and beside I changed that one too on my FREAKING Xbox One, so that why. Ks159081 ( talk) 7:43 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Italics are appropriate when discussing the term peckerwood, as per both MOS:LEADSENTENCE and WP:WORDSASWORDS generally. They are needed to make the use-mention distinction clear for the reader, as we're mentioning the term as a term, not just using it in a sentence.-- Cúchullain t/ c 02:28, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Response to third opinion request: | |||
I agree with
BMK, as "peckerwood" does not appear to be the title of any type of media (for example). OAN: I also think this article should be moved to
Peckerwood (slang) and then the original title should redirect to
Woodpecker with a hatnote along the lines of:
|
The "Differences between gangs and subculture" section consisted entirely of unsourced declarative statements, which is a violation of WP:V and WP:RS, so I removed it from the article. I've posted it below, so that parts of it can be restored to the article with the proper support of citations from reliable sources. Any material which is restored without references will be deleted again, and repeated actions of this kind will be reported for sanctioning.
The task is simple: take a statement or group of statements, find a source that supports ihe information, then restore that information with a reference to that source.
==Differences between gangs and subculture== Ironically, there is a misconception about the term "peckerwood". Critics assume a peckerwood is a racist, neo-nazi white supremacist gang member. However, majority of peckerwoods claim not to be gangbangers. According to some peckerwoods, the difference between the peckerwood subculture and the peckerwood prison gang population is the peckerwood subculture does not condone any criminal activities or a group of racist bigots. The peckerwood subculture is majorily white, however Hispanics, Europeans, Native Americans and minority Asians are recently joining the subculture. African americans were not allowed to join, due to the fact that blacks invented the term "peckerwood" as a racist slur, which may be an assuming reason why African-Americans were not permitted. Peckerwoods also borrow elements of [[Nazism]] and [[Neo-Confederate]] paraphernalia (right wing extremism, white nationalism, white seperatism, fascism, xenophobia, Islamophobia, Southern Nationalism). Peckerwoods deny themselves being racist, however they support a favor of [[anti-Semitism]] and rejects a racist ideology of [[White Supremacy]]. === Nazism === The Peckerwoods' main ideology subscribed to is Nazism, inspired by the teachings of [[Adolf Hitler]]. Peckerwoods are also [[Neo-Confederate]] as well (such as honoring soldiers of the Confederacy). Despite the Peckerwoods' rejection of [[White supremacy]], they show loyal support to the [[Nazi Low Riders]]. === Allies === Peckerwoods have no official allies but they do support right wing, political groups. They have typical allegiance to the Nazi Low Riders. Peckerwoods do ally themselves with [[Nazi punk| Nazi punks]], [[National Socialist black metal| NSBM metalheads]], and [[Rock Against Communism| RAC rockers]]. Peckerwoods also favor music such as [[Hardcore punk]], [[Horrorcore]] rap, Rock Against Communism (RAC), Punk rock, [[Speed metal]] and [[Grindcore]]. === Rivals === Peckerwoods are in a political conflict against radical leftists as they pair up with right wing extremists. They also tend to share the same rivals the Nazi Low Riders have, such as [[Bloods]], [[Crips]], [[Black Guerrilla Family]], [[Mara Salvatrucha]], [[Norteños]], and [[Latin Kings]]. When it comes to involvement in a political war, the Peckerwoods' main rivals are Red and Anarchist Skinheads, [[Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice]], [[Antifa]], [[Black Lives Matter]] and [[Social Justice Warriors]]. Peckerwoods also believes to have a deep hostility towards the [[Jewish Defense League]]. === Religous aspects in the Peckerwood subculture === Although the Peckerwoods subculture has no official religion, most Peckerwoods favor in [[Christianity]] as the subculture's main religion. The subculture tends to maintain an Anti-Semitic attitude. However, 67% of the Peckerwoods mostly convert to [[Heathenism| Nordic paganism]] or [[Satanism]] cause they believe Christianity is a form of Judaism.
Beyond My Ken ( talk) 07:53, 23 January 2019 (UTC)