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I understand that the wife of a knight is normally Lady <surname>. However, Pattie Menzies was made a Dame in her own right, years before Bob Menzies was ever knighted. I suppose if she wanted to, she could have insisted on being known as "Lady Menzies" after his knighthood, but she never did, and nobody but nobody ever called her "Lady Menzies". That would have been a denial of her own personal honour, in favour of a reflected one and therefore a lesser one. Is there any good reason why we use "Lady Menzies" in the article at all; and more to the point, why she appears, in "Titles and styles from birth", to have lost her Dame title after her husband was knighted? That certainly was not the case. -- JackofOz ( talk) 01:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
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I understand that the wife of a knight is normally Lady <surname>. However, Pattie Menzies was made a Dame in her own right, years before Bob Menzies was ever knighted. I suppose if she wanted to, she could have insisted on being known as "Lady Menzies" after his knighthood, but she never did, and nobody but nobody ever called her "Lady Menzies". That would have been a denial of her own personal honour, in favour of a reflected one and therefore a lesser one. Is there any good reason why we use "Lady Menzies" in the article at all; and more to the point, why she appears, in "Titles and styles from birth", to have lost her Dame title after her husband was knighted? That certainly was not the case. -- JackofOz ( talk) 01:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
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