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The current intro appears to be too long at 7 long paragraphs. The info there is good; can it be condensed? Holidayruin ( talk) 18:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
The lead section is too long, but more importantly the encyclopaedic tone is not right. Information in the lead section about Park’s presidency, the assasisantion and its aftermath, and the later ‘democrisation’ of SK should be elsewhere 2407:7000:9F9D:5100:780A:3823:DFC5:5288 ( talk) 09:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
The redirect Po Zhengxi has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 10 § Po Zhengxi until a consensus is reached. 747pilot ( talk) 23:07, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works (contribs) 19:41, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
Park Chung-hee → Park Chung Hee – Suggesting this move under WP:COMMONNAME. "Park Chung Hee" is the most common name per Google ngram. Its also the name used by Encyclopaedia Britannica and academic sources ( For example, see this search on jstor of Park Chung-hee). :3 F4U ( they /it) 03:05, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 11:12, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Other encyclopedias are among the sources that may be helpful in deciding what titles are in an encyclopedic register, as well as what names are most frequently used. I'm not using Encyclopaedia Britannica as a source for any claim, but as an example of what other encyclopedias have used in their article titles. See also Oxford's World Encyclopedia which uses the same spelling.
I'm not certain how to rephrase it, but the first few lines of the intro need to be changed to be clearer to the reader that Park was a dictator. I'm aware it comes up later, but simply stating that he was the President without context, provides an inaccurate perspective. :3 F4U ( they /it) 01:45, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
At time of writing, the date format is currently DMY, but the page started off as MDY. It looks like someone changed it possibly around the mid 2010s (theres so many versions of the page and I don't really want to look for the exact one). Looks like no post was made on the talk page.
I'm going to revert it back to MDY because that's what it originally was. There's no real standard for date format for Korea-related articles, we just stick to established standard. The same applies for the Assassination of Park Chung Hee page; I will change that back too. toobigtokale ( talk) 10:46, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, question. Is Arikawa's given name (圭一) read as "Keiichi" or "Kazuichi"?
Chong-Sik Lee writes Kazuichi, but I'm seeing Keiichi on other websites (게이이치), and searching name dictionaries shows only Keiichi or Kiyokazu as possible readings. Lee's book has some minor transliteration/romanization mistakes that I've spotted so far, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's incorrect here. toobigtokale ( talk) 08:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Just a heads up for people who are interested. Cho Gabje and Chong-Sik Lee are seemingly two of the most significant biographers of Park. Cho for conducting so many interviews and writing an exhaustive multi-volume history, and Lee for writing one of the only general biographies of Park in English (bewildering that there aren't more).
Both of their works have issues; the following are my opinions but I think these are reasonably shared and agreeable views.
Cho:
Lee:
I'm still working on fleshing this article out, may take a year. I'm visiting a few places Park lived next week, looking forward to it. toobigtokale ( talk) 13:09, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
The lead photo doesn't have a date attached to it. The page on Park's assassination states that it was taken in 1973, but it is uncited. Does anyone know when this photo was taken? Dantus21 ( talk) 22:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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The current intro appears to be too long at 7 long paragraphs. The info there is good; can it be condensed? Holidayruin ( talk) 18:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
The lead section is too long, but more importantly the encyclopaedic tone is not right. Information in the lead section about Park’s presidency, the assasisantion and its aftermath, and the later ‘democrisation’ of SK should be elsewhere 2407:7000:9F9D:5100:780A:3823:DFC5:5288 ( talk) 09:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
The redirect Po Zhengxi has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 10 § Po Zhengxi until a consensus is reached. 747pilot ( talk) 23:07, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works (contribs) 19:41, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
Park Chung-hee → Park Chung Hee – Suggesting this move under WP:COMMONNAME. "Park Chung Hee" is the most common name per Google ngram. Its also the name used by Encyclopaedia Britannica and academic sources ( For example, see this search on jstor of Park Chung-hee). :3 F4U ( they /it) 03:05, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 11:12, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Other encyclopedias are among the sources that may be helpful in deciding what titles are in an encyclopedic register, as well as what names are most frequently used. I'm not using Encyclopaedia Britannica as a source for any claim, but as an example of what other encyclopedias have used in their article titles. See also Oxford's World Encyclopedia which uses the same spelling.
I'm not certain how to rephrase it, but the first few lines of the intro need to be changed to be clearer to the reader that Park was a dictator. I'm aware it comes up later, but simply stating that he was the President without context, provides an inaccurate perspective. :3 F4U ( they /it) 01:45, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
At time of writing, the date format is currently DMY, but the page started off as MDY. It looks like someone changed it possibly around the mid 2010s (theres so many versions of the page and I don't really want to look for the exact one). Looks like no post was made on the talk page.
I'm going to revert it back to MDY because that's what it originally was. There's no real standard for date format for Korea-related articles, we just stick to established standard. The same applies for the Assassination of Park Chung Hee page; I will change that back too. toobigtokale ( talk) 10:46, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, question. Is Arikawa's given name (圭一) read as "Keiichi" or "Kazuichi"?
Chong-Sik Lee writes Kazuichi, but I'm seeing Keiichi on other websites (게이이치), and searching name dictionaries shows only Keiichi or Kiyokazu as possible readings. Lee's book has some minor transliteration/romanization mistakes that I've spotted so far, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's incorrect here. toobigtokale ( talk) 08:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Just a heads up for people who are interested. Cho Gabje and Chong-Sik Lee are seemingly two of the most significant biographers of Park. Cho for conducting so many interviews and writing an exhaustive multi-volume history, and Lee for writing one of the only general biographies of Park in English (bewildering that there aren't more).
Both of their works have issues; the following are my opinions but I think these are reasonably shared and agreeable views.
Cho:
Lee:
I'm still working on fleshing this article out, may take a year. I'm visiting a few places Park lived next week, looking forward to it. toobigtokale ( talk) 13:09, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
The lead photo doesn't have a date attached to it. The page on Park's assassination states that it was taken in 1973, but it is uncited. Does anyone know when this photo was taken? Dantus21 ( talk) 22:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)