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Since Parasite Eve (and its sequel) have different endings in each game mode, I'm not sure whether to classify it as having multiple endings. What do you think?
Parasite eve is a two ending game, but Parasite eve 2 not really has 2 endings only show the ending on different levels, i don`t think is really a multi-ending game Zidane tribal 21:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I added the boxart of the game Zidane tribal 20:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Down the page for one of the PE2 villains there is a link to a page list of FF weapons. Page no longer exist redirects you to Common FF Things which has no mention of gun blade. If we have to assume that gun blades only exist in square games I suggest a link to squall that wont get erased. Else I would link to an actual article on guns with blades. Or at least a gallery of known historical gun blades. Its not like square invented this. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v405/NinjaNerd321/Gunblades/
found this. [1] not so sure if it can be used. but from what i an gather it holds some sales and the port to PSN. Bread Ninja ( talk) 18:42, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
I put links to a number or reviews of Parasite Eve. Each of them mention that this is a console-style RPG, some indicating that it uses a modified version of the FF7 engine. One made a few passing references indicating that the enemies appeared similar to the Resident Evil games. But none of the reviews went so far as to indicate relation to the "survival horror" genre.
Survival horror implies that your survival is at risk. Typically, weapons and ammunition are severely limited, and your character is in some way notably weaker than the enemies. A playthrough of PE indicates this is not the case. Yes, the enemies look like creatures out of RE. But ammunition is handed out like water. Weapons upgrades come frequently enough, and modifications are also plentiful. The story indicates that your character is mutated specifically to help you survive the onslaught from Eve and her minions. Although the horror elements are there, survival is no more of a threat than in any other console-style RPG.
Dawynn ( talk) 19:53, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. There's not precedent for this involved categorization; the term 'action role-playing' fits PARASITE EVE almost exactly. See [1] ZKILTH ( talk) 22:55, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
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The last paragraph of the plot section has gaping plot holes. ZFT ( talk) 05:31, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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Reviewer: TarkusAB ( talk · contribs) 23:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
This is an excellent game, played it maybe 3 years back. Comments coming shortly...
TarkusAB 23:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
INITIAL COMMENTS
Lead
Gameplay
Plot
Development
Music
Reception
The article definitely needs some work, specifically with the Gameplay section, but with a little effort I can definitely see this article reaching GA-status. Once the issues above are addressed I'll take another look. TarkusAB 00:21, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Ok @ TarkusAB:, I fixed those things too, can't leave good fixes lying around :) Thanks for the review, it was very comprehensive and greatly improved the article. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 18:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Parasite eve is not an action RPG, but rather a traditional ATB-based role-playing game. Altough you can move the character freely at some times during combat and that may give an impression of the game having action elements, this movement feature is much more geared towards tactics than action, since it's there mostly for positioning and skill-range calculations. Enemies and player characters still perform actions in turns.
Also, this is not original research. While one may argue that "sources" (which?) state the game is an action RPG, There are many reliable sources that classify the game as a regular RPG than an Action RPG, including multiple pages cited as sources for this page like [2] and Games and additionally game's own FANDOM wiki page and The Japanese Wikipedia page for the game. Also, IGN Article clearly states how the game's combat is derived from Final Fantasy VII's ATB battle system, and archived RPGamer review contemporary to the game even go as far as classifying the game as a "Cinematic RPG". AlexionStar ( talk) 14:45, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
So I've done some tabulating on how the game was received from a genre perspective:
I'm sure we could find more (surprisingly, I found very little published retrospective talk). The main points seem to be:
I think we could generally leave it as an "RPG" in the article, but should clarify that this is really non-traditional as stated above. Thoughts? Andrzejbanas ( talk) 16:44, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Some more
Ahh had to re-write my sentence here based on what you had. haha.
I was originally suggesting the following:
"Like other Role-playing games made by from Square for the PlayStation, Parasite Eve was made during a period that Peter Tieryas of Kotaku described as an "experimental period" where nearly every RPG from the company had unique combat mechanics. [1] Reviews from GameSpot and Official U.S. PlayStation Magazine [2] [3]
Not too different than yours, but I would like to WP:STICKTOSOURCE, almost none of the sources refer to game as survival horror "only the Kotaku article I found calls it that, and that's one against several." They also don't say JRPG or Japanese rpg, they just say "RPGs" from Square. (the JRPG thing wasn't really a common term back then either.). Also let's not use peacock terms like "classic" as we aren't reviewing those games in the article, they are major titles, but whether or not one finds them to be classic is up to them. I like your addition of Tokita's description. How about what I wrote above, but we can include your 1up article, (probably don't need the others in there at the moment.). Andrzejbanas ( talk) 18:37, 28 December 2022 (UTC) Thoughts @ AlexionStar:? Andrzejbanas ( talk) 18:37, 28 December 2022 (UTC)"
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Parasite Eve (video game) has been listed as one of the
Video games good articles under the
good article criteria. If you can improve it further,
please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can
reassess it. Review: May 8, 2016. ( Reviewed version). |
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Since Parasite Eve (and its sequel) have different endings in each game mode, I'm not sure whether to classify it as having multiple endings. What do you think?
Parasite eve is a two ending game, but Parasite eve 2 not really has 2 endings only show the ending on different levels, i don`t think is really a multi-ending game Zidane tribal 21:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I added the boxart of the game Zidane tribal 20:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Down the page for one of the PE2 villains there is a link to a page list of FF weapons. Page no longer exist redirects you to Common FF Things which has no mention of gun blade. If we have to assume that gun blades only exist in square games I suggest a link to squall that wont get erased. Else I would link to an actual article on guns with blades. Or at least a gallery of known historical gun blades. Its not like square invented this. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v405/NinjaNerd321/Gunblades/
found this. [1] not so sure if it can be used. but from what i an gather it holds some sales and the port to PSN. Bread Ninja ( talk) 18:42, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
I put links to a number or reviews of Parasite Eve. Each of them mention that this is a console-style RPG, some indicating that it uses a modified version of the FF7 engine. One made a few passing references indicating that the enemies appeared similar to the Resident Evil games. But none of the reviews went so far as to indicate relation to the "survival horror" genre.
Survival horror implies that your survival is at risk. Typically, weapons and ammunition are severely limited, and your character is in some way notably weaker than the enemies. A playthrough of PE indicates this is not the case. Yes, the enemies look like creatures out of RE. But ammunition is handed out like water. Weapons upgrades come frequently enough, and modifications are also plentiful. The story indicates that your character is mutated specifically to help you survive the onslaught from Eve and her minions. Although the horror elements are there, survival is no more of a threat than in any other console-style RPG.
Dawynn ( talk) 19:53, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. There's not precedent for this involved categorization; the term 'action role-playing' fits PARASITE EVE almost exactly. See [1] ZKILTH ( talk) 22:55, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
References
The last paragraph of the plot section has gaping plot holes. ZFT ( talk) 05:31, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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Reviewer: TarkusAB ( talk · contribs) 23:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
This is an excellent game, played it maybe 3 years back. Comments coming shortly...
TarkusAB 23:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
INITIAL COMMENTS
Lead
Gameplay
Plot
Development
Music
Reception
The article definitely needs some work, specifically with the Gameplay section, but with a little effort I can definitely see this article reaching GA-status. Once the issues above are addressed I'll take another look. TarkusAB 00:21, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Ok @ TarkusAB:, I fixed those things too, can't leave good fixes lying around :) Thanks for the review, it was very comprehensive and greatly improved the article. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 18:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Parasite eve is not an action RPG, but rather a traditional ATB-based role-playing game. Altough you can move the character freely at some times during combat and that may give an impression of the game having action elements, this movement feature is much more geared towards tactics than action, since it's there mostly for positioning and skill-range calculations. Enemies and player characters still perform actions in turns.
Also, this is not original research. While one may argue that "sources" (which?) state the game is an action RPG, There are many reliable sources that classify the game as a regular RPG than an Action RPG, including multiple pages cited as sources for this page like [2] and Games and additionally game's own FANDOM wiki page and The Japanese Wikipedia page for the game. Also, IGN Article clearly states how the game's combat is derived from Final Fantasy VII's ATB battle system, and archived RPGamer review contemporary to the game even go as far as classifying the game as a "Cinematic RPG". AlexionStar ( talk) 14:45, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
So I've done some tabulating on how the game was received from a genre perspective:
I'm sure we could find more (surprisingly, I found very little published retrospective talk). The main points seem to be:
I think we could generally leave it as an "RPG" in the article, but should clarify that this is really non-traditional as stated above. Thoughts? Andrzejbanas ( talk) 16:44, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Some more
Ahh had to re-write my sentence here based on what you had. haha.
I was originally suggesting the following:
"Like other Role-playing games made by from Square for the PlayStation, Parasite Eve was made during a period that Peter Tieryas of Kotaku described as an "experimental period" where nearly every RPG from the company had unique combat mechanics. [1] Reviews from GameSpot and Official U.S. PlayStation Magazine [2] [3]
Not too different than yours, but I would like to WP:STICKTOSOURCE, almost none of the sources refer to game as survival horror "only the Kotaku article I found calls it that, and that's one against several." They also don't say JRPG or Japanese rpg, they just say "RPGs" from Square. (the JRPG thing wasn't really a common term back then either.). Also let's not use peacock terms like "classic" as we aren't reviewing those games in the article, they are major titles, but whether or not one finds them to be classic is up to them. I like your addition of Tokita's description. How about what I wrote above, but we can include your 1up article, (probably don't need the others in there at the moment.). Andrzejbanas ( talk) 18:37, 28 December 2022 (UTC) Thoughts @ AlexionStar:? Andrzejbanas ( talk) 18:37, 28 December 2022 (UTC)"
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