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Hello. The town of Paquisha has always been located where it is, that is along the banks of the Nangaritza river. On the other hand, the Ecuadorian oupost called "Paquisha" was on the Comaina valley, which is on the other side of the Condor range. The Peruvians calls it "Falso Paquisha" as the Peruvian history has it that Ecuador wanted to fool world opinion by putting the name of an Ecuadorian town to an Ecuadorian outpost on the other side of Condor range. Thus, I believe that the "Falso Paquisha" denomination does have to appear on the article. On the other hand, the Ecuadorians have always stated that the town and the outposts where two completely different things. I believe it is better to use both names, the Ecuadorian and the Peruvian, in order to portray both views fairly and without bias, without stating which name is the "appropiate" one. Also, bear in mind that the Ecuadorians don't call the post "Falso Paquisha". This is a word used in Peru, but not in Ecuador. I believe foreign historians don't use the name "Falso Paquisha" or "Paquisha". Thanks. Andres C. 14:54, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
The term itself is pure ecuadorian POV, and also qualifies as propaganda. Hense, I'm reverting that part, since it is clear that the outpost was presented by the ecuadorian authorities as the town of Paquisha, not as a military outpost. Messhermit 01:13, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Another point I would like to address is the number of FAE sorties flown during the war. Could we have a reference for the figure which is given in the article? Andres C. 15:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
This section 'It was during this meeting that the Peruvian Foreing Minister, Javier Arias Stella, called the three Ecuadorian military outposts as falsos ("false") point to the fact that according to Peru the Ecuadorians had given these three outposts the names of Ecuadorian towns in an effort to confuse world opinion and to present the conflict as provoked by a Peruvian aggression on Ecuadorian soil. The Ecuadorian Foreign Minister, Alfonso Barrera Valderde, responded to this allegation stating that when Ecuador first denounced the attacks, on January 28, it always specified that these were being made against the destacamentos (military outposts) of Paquisha, Mayaicu, and Machinaza, not against the similarly named Ecuadorian towns.[1]'
Is entirely horribly written, as it makes my mind question what is going on. I dont understand at all what this paragraph is trying to convey. Someone please revise this (NOT REVERT) so that it makes more logical sense. Pvt Mahoney 02:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
The aftermath section is also poorly written, which leads me to believe that this entire article needs to be rewritten, dates need to be exacted and the content of this page needs to be simplified, sourced and needs to make more sense. The flow of this page is choppy and there are dates that arent very well written down in the article Pvt Mahoney 02:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Hate to continue criticising this article, but a lot of this article is straight-up copied from other sources... "In the aftermath of the incident, both sides increased their military presence up and down the Cordillera del Cóndor area and the Cenepa valley down below, starting a cycle of tensions and provocations that ended up producing another military confrontation in 1995, the Cenepa War." <- I copied that from Answers.com. I copied this from this article "In the aftermath of the incident, both sides increased their military presence up and down the Cordillera del Cóndor area and the Cenepa valley down below, starting a cycle of tensions and provocations that ended up producing another military confrontation in 1995, the Cenepa War." Pvt Mahoney 03:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Well isnt that the most interesting thing... I did not notice that website linked to wikipedia for its information... How most unusual. Eh... I still say the entire article needs to be rewritten =P I'd do it myself, but right now I need to ready myself for some political meeting of sorts...City hall here i come! Pvt Mahoney 12:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
You have wrong information. There were never "two" military outposts with the name Paquisha. Please prove your point using reliable and serious sources. Andrés 00:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Please expand on the "Background" section. A link is good, but actual content, summarizing the particularly relevant bits from that linked-to article, would be better. Thank you. LordAmeth 15:04, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I've been able to find the strength of the Ecuadorian side, but not of the Peruvian forces in this conflict. The casualty statistics come from the Spanish wiki article, but it is not clear what their source is. FOARP ( talk) 16:09, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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Hello. The town of Paquisha has always been located where it is, that is along the banks of the Nangaritza river. On the other hand, the Ecuadorian oupost called "Paquisha" was on the Comaina valley, which is on the other side of the Condor range. The Peruvians calls it "Falso Paquisha" as the Peruvian history has it that Ecuador wanted to fool world opinion by putting the name of an Ecuadorian town to an Ecuadorian outpost on the other side of Condor range. Thus, I believe that the "Falso Paquisha" denomination does have to appear on the article. On the other hand, the Ecuadorians have always stated that the town and the outposts where two completely different things. I believe it is better to use both names, the Ecuadorian and the Peruvian, in order to portray both views fairly and without bias, without stating which name is the "appropiate" one. Also, bear in mind that the Ecuadorians don't call the post "Falso Paquisha". This is a word used in Peru, but not in Ecuador. I believe foreign historians don't use the name "Falso Paquisha" or "Paquisha". Thanks. Andres C. 14:54, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
The term itself is pure ecuadorian POV, and also qualifies as propaganda. Hense, I'm reverting that part, since it is clear that the outpost was presented by the ecuadorian authorities as the town of Paquisha, not as a military outpost. Messhermit 01:13, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Another point I would like to address is the number of FAE sorties flown during the war. Could we have a reference for the figure which is given in the article? Andres C. 15:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
This section 'It was during this meeting that the Peruvian Foreing Minister, Javier Arias Stella, called the three Ecuadorian military outposts as falsos ("false") point to the fact that according to Peru the Ecuadorians had given these three outposts the names of Ecuadorian towns in an effort to confuse world opinion and to present the conflict as provoked by a Peruvian aggression on Ecuadorian soil. The Ecuadorian Foreign Minister, Alfonso Barrera Valderde, responded to this allegation stating that when Ecuador first denounced the attacks, on January 28, it always specified that these were being made against the destacamentos (military outposts) of Paquisha, Mayaicu, and Machinaza, not against the similarly named Ecuadorian towns.[1]'
Is entirely horribly written, as it makes my mind question what is going on. I dont understand at all what this paragraph is trying to convey. Someone please revise this (NOT REVERT) so that it makes more logical sense. Pvt Mahoney 02:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
The aftermath section is also poorly written, which leads me to believe that this entire article needs to be rewritten, dates need to be exacted and the content of this page needs to be simplified, sourced and needs to make more sense. The flow of this page is choppy and there are dates that arent very well written down in the article Pvt Mahoney 02:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Hate to continue criticising this article, but a lot of this article is straight-up copied from other sources... "In the aftermath of the incident, both sides increased their military presence up and down the Cordillera del Cóndor area and the Cenepa valley down below, starting a cycle of tensions and provocations that ended up producing another military confrontation in 1995, the Cenepa War." <- I copied that from Answers.com. I copied this from this article "In the aftermath of the incident, both sides increased their military presence up and down the Cordillera del Cóndor area and the Cenepa valley down below, starting a cycle of tensions and provocations that ended up producing another military confrontation in 1995, the Cenepa War." Pvt Mahoney 03:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Well isnt that the most interesting thing... I did not notice that website linked to wikipedia for its information... How most unusual. Eh... I still say the entire article needs to be rewritten =P I'd do it myself, but right now I need to ready myself for some political meeting of sorts...City hall here i come! Pvt Mahoney 12:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
You have wrong information. There were never "two" military outposts with the name Paquisha. Please prove your point using reliable and serious sources. Andrés 00:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Please expand on the "Background" section. A link is good, but actual content, summarizing the particularly relevant bits from that linked-to article, would be better. Thank you. LordAmeth 15:04, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I've been able to find the strength of the Ecuadorian side, but not of the Peruvian forces in this conflict. The casualty statistics come from the Spanish wiki article, but it is not clear what their source is. FOARP ( talk) 16:09, 8 January 2018 (UTC)