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It leads with mentioning that guerrillas have targeted civilian populations with no mention or context that the government, with vastly superior armament, has also engaged in massacres, terrorism, torture, and bombardment of civilian populations as well at a far larger scale.
the citation is also from a western think tank that has clear business motivations to accept the Indonesian military line. 107.77.213.48 ( talk) 08:22, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
@ TarnishedPath Honestly, I like the previous version without her inclusion better sure Jakartapost is a reliable source. But why include only one person, especially the way the sentence is: 'women rights activists, like Fien Jarangga', its a generalisation for women right activists.
Also read again at the source anyway, Fien is mentioned once. The preceding sentence is also: 'a women's rights activist' meaning specifically only her. Not only that, she never mention support of Papua independence anyway just that they can pursue legal venue to verify pepera legality. I'd say, it can be a misrepresentation of her views, TIKI also never mentions support of Papuan independence too considering its facilitated by local papuan legislature and Indonesian national commision of human rights. Envapid ( talk) 15:42, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
A "new" editor tried to update the casualties in the infobox from at least 38 killed (2010 – March 2022)
to at least 57 killed (2010 – December 2023)
, but did not provide a citation for the new information. So it has been reverted.
The old citation was to Pahlevi, Reza (16 June 2022). "Kekerasan di Papua Telan Ratusan Korban Jiwa, Mayoritas Warga Sipil" [Violence in Papua claims hundreds of lives, most of them civilians]. Databoks. Archived from the original on 11 October 2022. Retrieved 8 October 2022.
@ Rembo01: if you do not know how to do a citation, try completing the following template, but giving the information for your source:
It is a method of recording the URL, the title, the title translated into English, the work (name of newspaper or website), the date it was published (not the date you looked at it), and the first and last names of the author of the source.-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Per Template talk:Infobox military conflict#RfC on "supported by" being used with the belligerent parameter, "Supprted by" is deprecated. Per the final sentence of the closure of that request for comment, "However, these circumstances would be rare, and considering the clear consensus in this discussion the status quo should be removal; inclusion would require an affirmative consensus at the article". So "Supported by" can be removed immediately as reflecting current consensus, and it would be up to those wishing to include to obtain a fresh consensus for inclusion. Kathleen's bike ( talk) 18:35, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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It leads with mentioning that guerrillas have targeted civilian populations with no mention or context that the government, with vastly superior armament, has also engaged in massacres, terrorism, torture, and bombardment of civilian populations as well at a far larger scale.
the citation is also from a western think tank that has clear business motivations to accept the Indonesian military line. 107.77.213.48 ( talk) 08:22, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
@ TarnishedPath Honestly, I like the previous version without her inclusion better sure Jakartapost is a reliable source. But why include only one person, especially the way the sentence is: 'women rights activists, like Fien Jarangga', its a generalisation for women right activists.
Also read again at the source anyway, Fien is mentioned once. The preceding sentence is also: 'a women's rights activist' meaning specifically only her. Not only that, she never mention support of Papua independence anyway just that they can pursue legal venue to verify pepera legality. I'd say, it can be a misrepresentation of her views, TIKI also never mentions support of Papuan independence too considering its facilitated by local papuan legislature and Indonesian national commision of human rights. Envapid ( talk) 15:42, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
A "new" editor tried to update the casualties in the infobox from at least 38 killed (2010 – March 2022)
to at least 57 killed (2010 – December 2023)
, but did not provide a citation for the new information. So it has been reverted.
The old citation was to Pahlevi, Reza (16 June 2022). "Kekerasan di Papua Telan Ratusan Korban Jiwa, Mayoritas Warga Sipil" [Violence in Papua claims hundreds of lives, most of them civilians]. Databoks. Archived from the original on 11 October 2022. Retrieved 8 October 2022.
@ Rembo01: if you do not know how to do a citation, try completing the following template, but giving the information for your source:
It is a method of recording the URL, the title, the title translated into English, the work (name of newspaper or website), the date it was published (not the date you looked at it), and the first and last names of the author of the source.-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Per Template talk:Infobox military conflict#RfC on "supported by" being used with the belligerent parameter, "Supprted by" is deprecated. Per the final sentence of the closure of that request for comment, "However, these circumstances would be rare, and considering the clear consensus in this discussion the status quo should be removal; inclusion would require an affirmative consensus at the article". So "Supported by" can be removed immediately as reflecting current consensus, and it would be up to those wishing to include to obtain a fresh consensus for inclusion. Kathleen's bike ( talk) 18:35, 18 April 2024 (UTC)