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I think the Red Crescent Society has been known to use "medical" immunity to transport terrorists and weapons, and has lied about events in order to slander Israel.
Moumine70 and MSTCrow, How about here [1] and here [2] ? Try googling that as there are many...many... many more. Even have videos.-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 16:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Plus
Here [3]
here [4] A WHO document especially
" WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
FIFTY-SIXTH WORLD HEALTH ASSEMBLY A56/INF.DOC./6
Provisional agenda item 19 16 May 2003
14. There have been several proven cases of misuse of Palestinian ambulances to transport ammunition or explosive belts or to transfer terrorists."
here [5] -- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 17:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
More [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
AND, what are "reliable non-propagandist sources" to you? WHo would be acceptable to you?-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 17:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
the Fifty-sixth World Health Assembly the attached report by the Ministry of Health of Israel." In other words, these are not the words of the WHO and there seems no reason to include them. The allegations come solely from the government of Israel (or various spokespersons or supporters), they've been investigated by a recognised independent body and no evidence of the problem has been found. And even if evidence had been found, Israel's response is in breach of its international obligations (First Geneva Convention) not to interfere with these operations, so their counter-claims cannot be rated very highly. 86.159.244.146 ( talk) 18:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Are you on crack?-- 71.246.30.208 ( talk) 10:30, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
"There have been several proven cases of misuse of Palestinian ambulances to transport ammunition or explosive belts or to transfer terrorists."
Who is saying this? Can a link be provided for this information? Tiamut talk 20:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Try this "WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION FIFTY-SIXTH WORLD HEALTH ASSEMBLY A56/INF.DOC./6 Provisional agenda item 19 16 May 2003 #14 and #35" See here [13]-- 209.213.220.227 ( talk) 12:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Both statements which are countered by the World Health Organization in their [14] WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION FIFTY-SIXTH WORLD HEALTH ASSEMBLY A56/INF.DOC./6 Provisional agenda item 19 16 May 2003 #14 There have been several proven cases of misuse of Palestinian ambulances to transport ammunition or explosive belts or to transfer terrorists ,and #35. The Red Crescent closely cooperated with the MDA until April 2002. At that time, the IDF found that Red Crescent ambulances were being used to carry terrorists. The Red Crescent personnel involved in this violation were interrogated. The Red Crescent officials were insulted and protested that the MDA did not defend them before the IDF. As a result, the Red Crescent stopped cooperating with the MDA.
A 2003 report cannot counter a 2009 report. Again, the speaker is the Israeli Minsitry of Health. Tiamut talk 19:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Degen Earthfast, please self-revert these edits. The speaker is the Israeli Ministry of Health, not the WHO. An equivalent example would be a report from the UN security Council proceedings where the speaker is Sudan, but we say only the UNSC said this ... Its misleading and wrong. Please self-revert. Tiamut talk 07:52, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
I've removed this:
The result has been an uneasy peace between EMS staff on both sides. Any MDA or Red Crescent ambulance will respond to any emergency if required, and will usually hand off care to the other, when appropriate. The atmosphere is reported to be ‘professional and polite’ but ‘without any smiles or handshaking’. citation needed
If someone has a source that would be good. Tiamut talk 09:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
The PRCS also acts in Syria, Lebanon and Egypt. It was founded in Jordan. That part of the organisation is currently not mentioned, I think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.12.12.238 ( talk) 19:40, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I have created a redirect Emergency medical services in Palestine to a section in this article. I would probably prefer a standalone article instead of a redirect but didn't as
It would be helpful if this article had more information about hospitals and other non-ambulance activities to reasonably enable a split off of this topic Alex Sims ( talk) 00:57, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
In the line "Israeli authorities have required Palestinian ambulances to undergo a through search when passing through checkpoints", the word 'through' should be 'thorough'. I don't have the ability to edit this article, so I thought I'd say this here so that someone who IS able to edit it can fix it. Thanks! Iamextremelygayokay ( talk) 03:04, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
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I think the Red Crescent Society has been known to use "medical" immunity to transport terrorists and weapons, and has lied about events in order to slander Israel.
Moumine70 and MSTCrow, How about here [1] and here [2] ? Try googling that as there are many...many... many more. Even have videos.-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 16:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Plus
Here [3]
here [4] A WHO document especially
" WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
FIFTY-SIXTH WORLD HEALTH ASSEMBLY A56/INF.DOC./6
Provisional agenda item 19 16 May 2003
14. There have been several proven cases of misuse of Palestinian ambulances to transport ammunition or explosive belts or to transfer terrorists."
here [5] -- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 17:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
More [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
AND, what are "reliable non-propagandist sources" to you? WHo would be acceptable to you?-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 17:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
the Fifty-sixth World Health Assembly the attached report by the Ministry of Health of Israel." In other words, these are not the words of the WHO and there seems no reason to include them. The allegations come solely from the government of Israel (or various spokespersons or supporters), they've been investigated by a recognised independent body and no evidence of the problem has been found. And even if evidence had been found, Israel's response is in breach of its international obligations (First Geneva Convention) not to interfere with these operations, so their counter-claims cannot be rated very highly. 86.159.244.146 ( talk) 18:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Are you on crack?-- 71.246.30.208 ( talk) 10:30, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
"There have been several proven cases of misuse of Palestinian ambulances to transport ammunition or explosive belts or to transfer terrorists."
Who is saying this? Can a link be provided for this information? Tiamut talk 20:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Try this "WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION FIFTY-SIXTH WORLD HEALTH ASSEMBLY A56/INF.DOC./6 Provisional agenda item 19 16 May 2003 #14 and #35" See here [13]-- 209.213.220.227 ( talk) 12:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Both statements which are countered by the World Health Organization in their [14] WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION FIFTY-SIXTH WORLD HEALTH ASSEMBLY A56/INF.DOC./6 Provisional agenda item 19 16 May 2003 #14 There have been several proven cases of misuse of Palestinian ambulances to transport ammunition or explosive belts or to transfer terrorists ,and #35. The Red Crescent closely cooperated with the MDA until April 2002. At that time, the IDF found that Red Crescent ambulances were being used to carry terrorists. The Red Crescent personnel involved in this violation were interrogated. The Red Crescent officials were insulted and protested that the MDA did not defend them before the IDF. As a result, the Red Crescent stopped cooperating with the MDA.
A 2003 report cannot counter a 2009 report. Again, the speaker is the Israeli Minsitry of Health. Tiamut talk 19:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Degen Earthfast, please self-revert these edits. The speaker is the Israeli Ministry of Health, not the WHO. An equivalent example would be a report from the UN security Council proceedings where the speaker is Sudan, but we say only the UNSC said this ... Its misleading and wrong. Please self-revert. Tiamut talk 07:52, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
I've removed this:
The result has been an uneasy peace between EMS staff on both sides. Any MDA or Red Crescent ambulance will respond to any emergency if required, and will usually hand off care to the other, when appropriate. The atmosphere is reported to be ‘professional and polite’ but ‘without any smiles or handshaking’. citation needed
If someone has a source that would be good. Tiamut talk 09:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
The PRCS also acts in Syria, Lebanon and Egypt. It was founded in Jordan. That part of the organisation is currently not mentioned, I think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.12.12.238 ( talk) 19:40, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I have created a redirect Emergency medical services in Palestine to a section in this article. I would probably prefer a standalone article instead of a redirect but didn't as
It would be helpful if this article had more information about hospitals and other non-ambulance activities to reasonably enable a split off of this topic Alex Sims ( talk) 00:57, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
In the line "Israeli authorities have required Palestinian ambulances to undergo a through search when passing through checkpoints", the word 'through' should be 'thorough'. I don't have the ability to edit this article, so I thought I'd say this here so that someone who IS able to edit it can fix it. Thanks! Iamextremelygayokay ( talk) 03:04, 10 November 2023 (UTC)