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Okay, exactly how many dogs--or characters--have stars on the walk of fame?
If it's only two, my money's on Rinty. Another WP article says three.
I'm going for three until we check it. Quill 22:39, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This article needs to be merged with Lassie. Lassie was portrayed by 7 different dogs including Pal and each of the Lassie's had its own name other than Lassie. There is no reason why the first Lassie needs to have its own article. Vivaldi ( talk) 18:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I do not agree, it is a good artical, it is a known dog, for example in Frasier, the dog is interpreted by a dog that has an artical, and then is replaced by his son, and that dog has an artical too. -- Pedro J. the rookie 13:21, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Strongly disagree. This is crazy, it's got GA status! Pal is one of the most famous dog actors and therefore is easily notable in his own right. If this was a human actor then it wouldn't even be questioned. Miyagawa ( talk) 17:26, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Comment Why not combine all the dogs by age into one article called Lassie dogs.-- Lassiewasadog ( talk) 20:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Disagree. - I reviewed the GAN for this article. Even putting aside the quality of the article, it all comes down to WP:NOTE for me. This one meets all the notability criteria: significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. As long as it meets that criteria, the fact there were a number of other dog actors that played Lassie doesn't prohibit an article about this specific dog actor. (Incidentally, if there is a call for a regrade, I think that's fine, but I strongly feel a merge is out of the question.) — Hunter Kahn ( c) 21:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Strong Oppose The quote "most spectacular canine career" is one you are free to disagree with, AnmaFinotera, but to call it not reliably sourced is false. It is from an article about Pal in the Saturday Evening Post, quoted in Parade, as the fn plainly states. Both are reliable sources. The dog Pal, as distinct from the film character, is certainly notable in his own right, having been the subject of numerous national publications, etc., and as progenitor of the line of collies to play the character for more than 60 years. Vivaldi's rationale for a merge actually strengthens the case against merging – there have been many collies playing the character over the years, but only one Pal. It is also difficult to see how marging the article about the dog Pal with the article about the character Lassie is helpful to the reader. He did, after all, play Laddie in "Son of Lassie". JGHowes talk 00:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Strong Oppose Relevant information with proper citations. Ricardoread ( talk) 14:22, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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The article was almost exclusively written by the banned serial copyright violator ItsLassieTime, primarily with offline sources that are not easily accessible. I've sent the article to WP:CP where it'll most likely be shrunk to a stub, and as such will be nowhere near GA quality. Wizardman 22:44, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
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Okay, exactly how many dogs--or characters--have stars on the walk of fame?
If it's only two, my money's on Rinty. Another WP article says three.
I'm going for three until we check it. Quill 22:39, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This article needs to be merged with Lassie. Lassie was portrayed by 7 different dogs including Pal and each of the Lassie's had its own name other than Lassie. There is no reason why the first Lassie needs to have its own article. Vivaldi ( talk) 18:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I do not agree, it is a good artical, it is a known dog, for example in Frasier, the dog is interpreted by a dog that has an artical, and then is replaced by his son, and that dog has an artical too. -- Pedro J. the rookie 13:21, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Strongly disagree. This is crazy, it's got GA status! Pal is one of the most famous dog actors and therefore is easily notable in his own right. If this was a human actor then it wouldn't even be questioned. Miyagawa ( talk) 17:26, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Comment Why not combine all the dogs by age into one article called Lassie dogs.-- Lassiewasadog ( talk) 20:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Disagree. - I reviewed the GAN for this article. Even putting aside the quality of the article, it all comes down to WP:NOTE for me. This one meets all the notability criteria: significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. As long as it meets that criteria, the fact there were a number of other dog actors that played Lassie doesn't prohibit an article about this specific dog actor. (Incidentally, if there is a call for a regrade, I think that's fine, but I strongly feel a merge is out of the question.) — Hunter Kahn ( c) 21:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Strong Oppose The quote "most spectacular canine career" is one you are free to disagree with, AnmaFinotera, but to call it not reliably sourced is false. It is from an article about Pal in the Saturday Evening Post, quoted in Parade, as the fn plainly states. Both are reliable sources. The dog Pal, as distinct from the film character, is certainly notable in his own right, having been the subject of numerous national publications, etc., and as progenitor of the line of collies to play the character for more than 60 years. Vivaldi's rationale for a merge actually strengthens the case against merging – there have been many collies playing the character over the years, but only one Pal. It is also difficult to see how marging the article about the dog Pal with the article about the character Lassie is helpful to the reader. He did, after all, play Laddie in "Son of Lassie". JGHowes talk 00:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Strong Oppose Relevant information with proper citations. Ricardoread ( talk) 14:22, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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The article was almost exclusively written by the banned serial copyright violator ItsLassieTime, primarily with offline sources that are not easily accessible. I've sent the article to WP:CP where it'll most likely be shrunk to a stub, and as such will be nowhere near GA quality. Wizardman 22:44, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
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