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Currently "Pete Collins" links to a soap opera character list. I did a few cursory google searches, and can find no evidence that this is the same "Pete Collins," and in fact, found scant evidence of his existence in any media. If anyone has better information than I do, please offer it now. -- 24.5.197.145 ( talk) 00:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Pete Collins, a native Miamian, is an investigative journalist, a university-level lecturer and magazine writer. Collins' three-part series titled Pain & Gain was published in 1999 by Miami New Times newspaper. Collins and Ed DuBois, the hero of Pain & Gain, have been friends for years. Click here for a link to writer Pete Collins' website.
BrentEastman ( talk) 22:27, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Which cast members should go in the "Starring" section of the infobox? For example, is someone with a role title of "Principle Sun Gym Trainer" considered to be "starring" in the film? 65.69.203.252 ( talk) 15:00, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Do we need to spoil the end of the movie in the lead of the article, for Christ's sake? If I cared to find out the ending I'd research the Sun Gym Gang. How about put that text in that article? -- Hutcher ( talk) 19:19, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
The " Production" paragraph states: "Bay reported the budget was $22 million", while the Infobox lists the budget as $55 million. That huge discrepancy begs for an explanation. However, all of the articles I've come across cite the budget as somewhere between $22-$26 million, and I haven't seen any documentation explaining the production budget's almost-tripling. If anyone else finds such documentation, would you please briefly explain/cite it in the "Production" paragraph? - Froid ( talk) 18:19, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
In this section of the article, it states, "In reality, Lugo did not accidentally kill Griga; Doorbal purposefully killed him."
While it's true that Doorbal commits the murder, he did not do it "purposefully" - the intent was to kidnap Griga and extort his wealth, in the same manner as they did to Marc Schiller. Killing him when they did netted them nothing but a Lamborghini - they didn't even get the entry codes to Griga's house, let alone access to his bank accounts, etc.
From "Pain & Gain" - Pete Collins' article:
"After taking a breather and surveying the messy scene, Lugo and Doorbal checked on their prize catch, the man (Griga) who would soon be hauled off to a warehouse where he would gently be persuaded to provide them with untold riches; the man who, along with his luckless girlfriend, would also be dead before long.
To their everlasting disappointment they discovered they'd overdone it: Griga was dying. And they hadn't gotten a single penny out of him. They'd taken everything from Schiller but couldn't kill him. Maybe someday they'd get it right."
Stelbs20 (
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Is the character name Lugo or Swanson? 77.77.248.195 ( talk) 19:10, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
In the Comparisons section it says "Sabina Elena Petrescu (portrayed onscreen by Bar Paly as Sorina Luminita), was in fact a Solid Gold center-stage stripper." Can someone elaborate, for those of us not familiar with strip clubs/culture, what a 'solid gold center-stage stripper' actually is? I assume she wasn't literally made of gold but it's impossible to work out from this page what it actually means. Danikat ( talk) 13:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
I've deleted the link referencing a real life homosexual relationship between the characters as it is not supported by the source listed. FYI, here is the edit that added the unsourced information: [1]. Rsrikanth05 refuses to actually read the source or use the talk page, so I'd welcome other input. Since this concerns living persons and is not verifiable using the sources, I've reverted the edits in accordance with the BLP policy. Thoughts? -- Nyroska ( talk) 07:55, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm not trying to continue the edit war, but both WP:BLP and WP:PROVEIT apply. Even if you don't agree with BLP (though the section in question concerns the living persons on whom the article is based), I'm asking for a specific section of text in the reference that verifies the assertion (I've found none and I have searched several times). -- Nyroska ( talk) 16:02, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
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Under the heading "Real Life Outcomes, Adrian Noel Doorbal is listed only as Noel Doorbal. Please change it to Adrian Noel Doorbal. Mainerisms ( talk) 16:13, 23 May 2015 (UTC) Mainerisms ( talk) 16:13, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
There's a long quotation from Chen to support the assertion of a "real-life twist" in that the Kershaw character is arrested and jailed for Medicare fraud. If you read Chen closely, however, and even in the quotation, that's not what he says, but rather that the MOVIE added this twist, i.e., it didn't happen in real life. So that needs to be clarified, if it can be. The Chen quotation is also a bit syntactically unclear. But my understanding is that that didn't happen in real life, only in the movie. As currently written, it makes it seem like it happened in real life. Theonemacduff ( talk) 21:32, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
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Currently "Pete Collins" links to a soap opera character list. I did a few cursory google searches, and can find no evidence that this is the same "Pete Collins," and in fact, found scant evidence of his existence in any media. If anyone has better information than I do, please offer it now. -- 24.5.197.145 ( talk) 00:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Pete Collins, a native Miamian, is an investigative journalist, a university-level lecturer and magazine writer. Collins' three-part series titled Pain & Gain was published in 1999 by Miami New Times newspaper. Collins and Ed DuBois, the hero of Pain & Gain, have been friends for years. Click here for a link to writer Pete Collins' website.
BrentEastman ( talk) 22:27, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Which cast members should go in the "Starring" section of the infobox? For example, is someone with a role title of "Principle Sun Gym Trainer" considered to be "starring" in the film? 65.69.203.252 ( talk) 15:00, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Do we need to spoil the end of the movie in the lead of the article, for Christ's sake? If I cared to find out the ending I'd research the Sun Gym Gang. How about put that text in that article? -- Hutcher ( talk) 19:19, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
The " Production" paragraph states: "Bay reported the budget was $22 million", while the Infobox lists the budget as $55 million. That huge discrepancy begs for an explanation. However, all of the articles I've come across cite the budget as somewhere between $22-$26 million, and I haven't seen any documentation explaining the production budget's almost-tripling. If anyone else finds such documentation, would you please briefly explain/cite it in the "Production" paragraph? - Froid ( talk) 18:19, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
In this section of the article, it states, "In reality, Lugo did not accidentally kill Griga; Doorbal purposefully killed him."
While it's true that Doorbal commits the murder, he did not do it "purposefully" - the intent was to kidnap Griga and extort his wealth, in the same manner as they did to Marc Schiller. Killing him when they did netted them nothing but a Lamborghini - they didn't even get the entry codes to Griga's house, let alone access to his bank accounts, etc.
From "Pain & Gain" - Pete Collins' article:
"After taking a breather and surveying the messy scene, Lugo and Doorbal checked on their prize catch, the man (Griga) who would soon be hauled off to a warehouse where he would gently be persuaded to provide them with untold riches; the man who, along with his luckless girlfriend, would also be dead before long.
To their everlasting disappointment they discovered they'd overdone it: Griga was dying. And they hadn't gotten a single penny out of him. They'd taken everything from Schiller but couldn't kill him. Maybe someday they'd get it right."
Stelbs20 (
talk) 15:53, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Is the character name Lugo or Swanson? 77.77.248.195 ( talk) 19:10, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
In the Comparisons section it says "Sabina Elena Petrescu (portrayed onscreen by Bar Paly as Sorina Luminita), was in fact a Solid Gold center-stage stripper." Can someone elaborate, for those of us not familiar with strip clubs/culture, what a 'solid gold center-stage stripper' actually is? I assume she wasn't literally made of gold but it's impossible to work out from this page what it actually means. Danikat ( talk) 13:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
I've deleted the link referencing a real life homosexual relationship between the characters as it is not supported by the source listed. FYI, here is the edit that added the unsourced information: [1]. Rsrikanth05 refuses to actually read the source or use the talk page, so I'd welcome other input. Since this concerns living persons and is not verifiable using the sources, I've reverted the edits in accordance with the BLP policy. Thoughts? -- Nyroska ( talk) 07:55, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm not trying to continue the edit war, but both WP:BLP and WP:PROVEIT apply. Even if you don't agree with BLP (though the section in question concerns the living persons on whom the article is based), I'm asking for a specific section of text in the reference that verifies the assertion (I've found none and I have searched several times). -- Nyroska ( talk) 16:02, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
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Under the heading "Real Life Outcomes, Adrian Noel Doorbal is listed only as Noel Doorbal. Please change it to Adrian Noel Doorbal. Mainerisms ( talk) 16:13, 23 May 2015 (UTC) Mainerisms ( talk) 16:13, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
There's a long quotation from Chen to support the assertion of a "real-life twist" in that the Kershaw character is arrested and jailed for Medicare fraud. If you read Chen closely, however, and even in the quotation, that's not what he says, but rather that the MOVIE added this twist, i.e., it didn't happen in real life. So that needs to be clarified, if it can be. The Chen quotation is also a bit syntactically unclear. But my understanding is that that didn't happen in real life, only in the movie. As currently written, it makes it seem like it happened in real life. Theonemacduff ( talk) 21:32, 14 February 2017 (UTC)