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"It is said that he is able to play 16th note triplets at 180 bpm (beats per minute)." This needs attribution, and is probably not accurate. 16th notes at 180 bpm is not all that fast. Paco and Al Di Meola both play 32nd notes at 110 bpm fluidly on Mediterranean Sundance/Rio Ancho from Friday Night in San Francisco. This is the equivalent of 16th notes at 220 bpm.
Cleaned up some of the comma and semicolon errors here. Jasonguit 04:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
It is said in the documentation accompanying the much earlier classical "crossover" album ("Paco De Lucia - Interpreta A Manuel De Falla"), that Paco had to "painstakingly" read musical notation... granted, it's not easy for him, but he has done it long before the 1991 Concierto de Aranjuez album. Also, he is apparently skilled in "cifra" (Flamenco tablature) reading/writing, so saying that he's not adept with classical musical notation reflects a cultural bias... Paco's far from illiterate.
This article has a lot of weasel words and other unsourced statements. It would be great if someone could clean this up and offer a more neutral point of view about this fantastic artist. MarkBuckles (talk) 08:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
On digitaldreamdoor.com, click Music Lists, then click Greatest Specialty Guitarists. Lucia is #2 on greatest flamenco guitarists. I don't know how to link this because the web address for the page is digitaldreamdoor.com, meaning it does not change when you click on a link. However, I hope this can be used as a source.
Have deleted the following weasel wording from the introductory para.:
Many think that de Lucia fluently goes into these territories and plays like no other, whereas some purists of these other genres will state that he is just making a venture and is still a flamenco player at heart, lacking the pure jazz style citation needed.
Will try to continue with a general clean-up of this article. -- Technopat 10:34, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Intead of deleting, deleting, and just deleting, what this encyclopedia needs is adding, adding, ADDING valuable, informative, and factual material. The article sucks, not for what you and others may think is surplus information, but due to missing information, about Señor Francisco Sánchez's formative years, about his many contributions to the Flamenco genre, including the introduction of South American percussion, about the modern way of setting up Flamenco ensemble, etc. To write about those subjects needs expertise and considerable work, and hence has much more merit, than your beloved deleting. -- AVM ( talk) 22:45, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
The article's only references appear to be two DVD's ... are there no books or articles about him out there? And speaking about DVDs, the 2002 documentary suggests that "Entre dos aguas" (the song) was somehow a turning point in his career, in the sense that he gained a much wider audience after that (while before he might have been known primarily among flamenco aficionados and specialists). If that's indeed the case, perhaps it should be mentioned in the article. 81.96.125.240 16:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
No mention of his wonderful work in Mediteranian Sundance on Al DiMeola's Elegant Gypsy album? This is where I (and I'm sure many others) first heard of Paco... 24.18.201.182 ( talk) 16:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I was taught in school that the term gypsy borders upon being a racial slur and that the preferred nomenclature is Roma / Romani. Maybe we should change this no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vvibbert ( talk • contribs) 21:38, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Incorrect information: Paco de Lucía has not gypsy or roma ancestry. I had to correct the text. He is well known for being a "payo" guitarist admired by gypsy fans. Provide a reference or credible source that Paco de Lucía is of roma descent, before give erroneus information to the people that read wikipedia.
In Andalusia the word in use is Gitanos (gypsies), so stop inventing B.S.- Otherwise, go ahead and try to use that word, Roma, when talking to the locals. They'll think you're speaking about the capital of Italy. -- AVM ( talk) 22:52, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Will anyone add transcription of his name? Just I'm not sure how it is pronounced, whether it sounds like Paco de LuSia or Paco de LuCHya. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.30.232.76 ( talk) 08:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Regarding the "Concierto de Aranjuez", the article claims "Joaquín Rodrigo declared that no one had ever played his composition in such a brilliant manner". This is an exaggeration, in the referred source Rodrigo says nothing of the sort, he just defines De Lucías's interpretation as "beautiful, exotic and inspired". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.32.71.61 ( talk) 12:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I would suggest that the ideal source to complete this page would be to request an analysis from Paco Pena —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.252.12.175 ( talk) 23:10, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
The External links section is not for an excess source parking lot. They belong here on the talk page. Caution: I haven't checked them out to see if they are acceptable. Please put sources here in the future. Also, we do not use photo galleries, per WP:IG and "See Also" links also go here. Thank you. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 12:18, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Apparently, the only criterion for citing a source in a wikipedia article is that it previously was published. Correctness or the source's reputation is not particularly important. I can think of no reason for citing the opinion of Dorien Ross as to Paco de Lucia's status otherwise: she is, after all, only a clinical psychologist, and certainly not a musical expert of any kind. Except possibly, of course, it the author's mind. So, we have a musical illiterate quoting a musical illiterate on a musical point. How grand. I think I may contribute an article on advanced quantum mechanical angst in the poetry of John Keats. Whaddya think?
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Okay, sorry about the delay, carrying on with the article
Pohren p. 41 added.
More later... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
That's what the source says so I think it's fine, I didn't know either.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:20, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
All I can find is this "copyvio" of a TV documentary which is at his home in Majorca [2]. I'll reference the documentary without the vio link, that should be fine. Worth watching Rich, that's one of the finest looking women I've ever seen in my life, no kidding.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:06, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
This section is incomplete, as far as I can tell. I personally saw The Guitar Trio in the 1990s as they did a sort of reunion tour. They appeared, if memory serves, at Boston's Symphony Hall. I cannot find a source for that, but the article also fails to mention that they put out a second album, just titled "The Guitar Trio" in 1996, according to Amazon [1] and that fits approximately with the time frame I saw them. They were quite terrific, and DeLucia still was really the driving force behind the ensemble. 24.61.45.53 ( talk) 16:58, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Nice quote, I'll add that.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:25, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
No copyright problems, though I do have one query about File:Paco de Lucía 4.jpg which seems to have been reused in this source without proper attribution.
Well, that's not an article issue.. Many websites steal images and text and don't attribute them..♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:37, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
This source returns a 403 error.
Which citation number is it I can't locate it?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:40, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I think we're about there, so I'm happy to put this On hold. Sorry about the delays in real life. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
I don't know how to add an information so please can someone add it:
at the end of the article it is said that paco de lucia is going to turkey and morocco.
Well he's also attending the International Festival of Carthage, Tunisia. He will give a concert on the 31 july 2013.
Here are some sources (in french):
http://www.tunisky.com/paco-de-lucia-au-festival-de-carthage-le-31-juillet/
Thanks for the great work!
Jalloulo ( talk) 11:59, 11 June 2013 (UTC)jalloulo
So far, we don't seem to have confirmation of the date of death - the blog (improperly) used as a citation is dated Feb 26th, and says he died 'last night', which is ambiguous. [3] The BBC, which I have cited, doesn't give a date. [4]. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 13:11, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I see that Reuters reports "died on Wednesday", which would make the 26th correct. [5] It might be worthwhile to check this against later sources, as they become available though - early reports often seem to get death dates wrong. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 13:18, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
De Lucía is not his surname, so we cannot use it as such: "De Lucía is, De Lucía was, De Lucía played" etc. All these seem to be wrongly used. -- Why should I have a User Name? ( talk) 10:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
It would be more legitimate than using Paco or his real surname Sánchez. De Lucía is effectively his surname. Gary Glitter you'd say Glitter went to Vietnam wouldn't you?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:59, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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The mother of Paco de Lucía was born in Castro Marim, a locality south east of Portugal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castro_Marim_Municipality
Paco recorded an album called Castro Marín in homage to his mother's town. 85.139.86.93 ( talk) 15:22, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
I am exposing a metric for the importance of albums, styles and partners. The massive visitation of Paco de Lucía's article have strong correlated audience in another articles. The traffic statistics behaviour of the 2014-02-26 event — at the Paco's dead day, Paco's page jumps from average ~300/day to ~79000 (260x) — can be used as a "metric" of the importance (in the general point of view of the audience):
Comparing with citations of artits names at the article's text (at same date): Camarón de la Isla (8 citations, under-cited cmp Coryell); Tomatito (0 citations, under-cited); Al Di Meola (12 citations); John McLaughlin (10 citations, over-cited cmp Meola); Larry Coryell (6 citations); Javier Limón (1 citations, under-cited cmp Coryell); Paco de Lucía Sextet (4 citations, under-cited); Pepe de Lucía (4); Ramón de Algeciras (1, under-cited).
Musics:
Albuns:
Styles:
Some cited bands and artists like Pata Negra, Julio_Iglesias or Erick Clapton have no correlation (0x); Chick Corea low/diffused correlation (~2x).
-- Krauss ( talk) 21:37, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
I speak both Spanish and Portuguese and I'm familiar with naming standards for the Iberian peninsula. What is the point of using "Francisco Gustavo Sánchez Gomes"? It just sounds like a weird hybridization. The Spanish version of the article uses "Francisco Gustavo Sánchez Gómez". Was the artist actually born under the name "Francisco Gustavo Sánchez Gomes" or "Francisco Gustavo Sánchez Gómez"? He was born in Andalucía so I assume they used the second rather than the first.
ICE77 ( talk) 08:59, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes, his birth certificate was certainly showing what his actual name was (Sánchez Gómez or Sánchez Gomes). Either way, the naming in the English and the Spanish versions of this article do not match.
ICE77 ( talk) 02:27, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Paco de Lucías official website says "Francisco Sánchez Gómez, Alias Paco de Lucía". In decades and centuries past, specially before computers, people were not so picky about spelling and names were often adapted or "translated". It seems modst likely that his birth was registered as "Sánchez Gómez" even though his mother's surname was "Gomes". GS3 ( talk) 20:29, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I see the page's new OWNer User:Rms125a@hotmail.com thinks that Paco was first and foremost a composer which is ridiculous. He was and always will be a flamenco guitarist who happened to compose some of his own songs. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
He's attracted a lot of new attention since his death like a lot of people do. I can't understand the thinking behind placing composer first. It's sort of like saying Jimi Hendrix was an American composer, producer and guitarist.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:45, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
The English version shows just one marriage and 3 children. The Spanish has 2 marriages, 5 children in total. Seems that the English version is outdated. 2.139.197.17 ( talk) 10:05, 21 December 2016 (UTC)ElaHuguet
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In nearly 40 years as flamenco journalist, I have seldom, if ever, seen Paco de Lucía referred to as "De Lucía" outside of Wikipedia; he is simply "Lucía", as as far as I'm aware this is the normal convention. Certainly in libraries (I've just looked), he is "Lucía, Paco de", not "De Lucía, Paco".
I therefore move that the article be modified accordingly — unless, of course, the Wikipedia standard is different.
Paul Magnussen ( talk) 19:30, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Reference is made to the 1st paragraph of the "1970s" Section and the 2nd paragraph of the "1960s" Section of the article, both of which make reference to one of my father´s works, "Impetu".
After almost 50 years since Paco de Lucia´s original LP "El Mundo del Flamenco" was issued in 1971, I am pleased to see that this article captures the fact that the piece included in this record titled "El Impetu" is, in fact, "Impetu" (without the article "El") composed by Mario Escudero, and which Paco de Lucia first recorded in 1967 in his album "La Fabulosa Guitarra de Paco de Lucia" (and which correctly indicated both the name and composer of this work as Mario Escudero, not Francisco Sanchez Gomez (aka Paco de Lucia) as it appears in the 1971 album). To that effect, it should be noted that barring the dancer´s "zapateado" added to the work in the second record, the musical interpretation of the work is exactly the same in both records. To me, for example, this is like attributing "Asturias" as an original work of Lucero Tena for adding castanets to Isaac Albeniz´s own work - and Albeniz´s name is no where to be found.
Lastly, Paco de Lucia´s "El Impetu" work is registered as an original composition by Paco de Lucia in the SGAE since 1971, albeit it should also be noted that after raising this issue with the artist´s heirs, they have assured me they are in the process of correcting this inscription so that the correct composer is properly reflected moving forward.
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"It is said that he is able to play 16th note triplets at 180 bpm (beats per minute)." This needs attribution, and is probably not accurate. 16th notes at 180 bpm is not all that fast. Paco and Al Di Meola both play 32nd notes at 110 bpm fluidly on Mediterranean Sundance/Rio Ancho from Friday Night in San Francisco. This is the equivalent of 16th notes at 220 bpm.
Cleaned up some of the comma and semicolon errors here. Jasonguit 04:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
It is said in the documentation accompanying the much earlier classical "crossover" album ("Paco De Lucia - Interpreta A Manuel De Falla"), that Paco had to "painstakingly" read musical notation... granted, it's not easy for him, but he has done it long before the 1991 Concierto de Aranjuez album. Also, he is apparently skilled in "cifra" (Flamenco tablature) reading/writing, so saying that he's not adept with classical musical notation reflects a cultural bias... Paco's far from illiterate.
This article has a lot of weasel words and other unsourced statements. It would be great if someone could clean this up and offer a more neutral point of view about this fantastic artist. MarkBuckles (talk) 08:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
On digitaldreamdoor.com, click Music Lists, then click Greatest Specialty Guitarists. Lucia is #2 on greatest flamenco guitarists. I don't know how to link this because the web address for the page is digitaldreamdoor.com, meaning it does not change when you click on a link. However, I hope this can be used as a source.
Have deleted the following weasel wording from the introductory para.:
Many think that de Lucia fluently goes into these territories and plays like no other, whereas some purists of these other genres will state that he is just making a venture and is still a flamenco player at heart, lacking the pure jazz style citation needed.
Will try to continue with a general clean-up of this article. -- Technopat 10:34, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Intead of deleting, deleting, and just deleting, what this encyclopedia needs is adding, adding, ADDING valuable, informative, and factual material. The article sucks, not for what you and others may think is surplus information, but due to missing information, about Señor Francisco Sánchez's formative years, about his many contributions to the Flamenco genre, including the introduction of South American percussion, about the modern way of setting up Flamenco ensemble, etc. To write about those subjects needs expertise and considerable work, and hence has much more merit, than your beloved deleting. -- AVM ( talk) 22:45, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
The article's only references appear to be two DVD's ... are there no books or articles about him out there? And speaking about DVDs, the 2002 documentary suggests that "Entre dos aguas" (the song) was somehow a turning point in his career, in the sense that he gained a much wider audience after that (while before he might have been known primarily among flamenco aficionados and specialists). If that's indeed the case, perhaps it should be mentioned in the article. 81.96.125.240 16:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
No mention of his wonderful work in Mediteranian Sundance on Al DiMeola's Elegant Gypsy album? This is where I (and I'm sure many others) first heard of Paco... 24.18.201.182 ( talk) 16:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I was taught in school that the term gypsy borders upon being a racial slur and that the preferred nomenclature is Roma / Romani. Maybe we should change this no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vvibbert ( talk • contribs) 21:38, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Incorrect information: Paco de Lucía has not gypsy or roma ancestry. I had to correct the text. He is well known for being a "payo" guitarist admired by gypsy fans. Provide a reference or credible source that Paco de Lucía is of roma descent, before give erroneus information to the people that read wikipedia.
In Andalusia the word in use is Gitanos (gypsies), so stop inventing B.S.- Otherwise, go ahead and try to use that word, Roma, when talking to the locals. They'll think you're speaking about the capital of Italy. -- AVM ( talk) 22:52, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Will anyone add transcription of his name? Just I'm not sure how it is pronounced, whether it sounds like Paco de LuSia or Paco de LuCHya. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.30.232.76 ( talk) 08:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Regarding the "Concierto de Aranjuez", the article claims "Joaquín Rodrigo declared that no one had ever played his composition in such a brilliant manner". This is an exaggeration, in the referred source Rodrigo says nothing of the sort, he just defines De Lucías's interpretation as "beautiful, exotic and inspired". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.32.71.61 ( talk) 12:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I would suggest that the ideal source to complete this page would be to request an analysis from Paco Pena —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.252.12.175 ( talk) 23:10, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
The External links section is not for an excess source parking lot. They belong here on the talk page. Caution: I haven't checked them out to see if they are acceptable. Please put sources here in the future. Also, we do not use photo galleries, per WP:IG and "See Also" links also go here. Thank you. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 12:18, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Apparently, the only criterion for citing a source in a wikipedia article is that it previously was published. Correctness or the source's reputation is not particularly important. I can think of no reason for citing the opinion of Dorien Ross as to Paco de Lucia's status otherwise: she is, after all, only a clinical psychologist, and certainly not a musical expert of any kind. Except possibly, of course, it the author's mind. So, we have a musical illiterate quoting a musical illiterate on a musical point. How grand. I think I may contribute an article on advanced quantum mechanical angst in the poetry of John Keats. Whaddya think?
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Okay, sorry about the delay, carrying on with the article
Pohren p. 41 added.
More later... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
That's what the source says so I think it's fine, I didn't know either.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:20, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
All I can find is this "copyvio" of a TV documentary which is at his home in Majorca [2]. I'll reference the documentary without the vio link, that should be fine. Worth watching Rich, that's one of the finest looking women I've ever seen in my life, no kidding.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:06, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
This section is incomplete, as far as I can tell. I personally saw The Guitar Trio in the 1990s as they did a sort of reunion tour. They appeared, if memory serves, at Boston's Symphony Hall. I cannot find a source for that, but the article also fails to mention that they put out a second album, just titled "The Guitar Trio" in 1996, according to Amazon [1] and that fits approximately with the time frame I saw them. They were quite terrific, and DeLucia still was really the driving force behind the ensemble. 24.61.45.53 ( talk) 16:58, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Nice quote, I'll add that.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:25, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
No copyright problems, though I do have one query about File:Paco de Lucía 4.jpg which seems to have been reused in this source without proper attribution.
Well, that's not an article issue.. Many websites steal images and text and don't attribute them..♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:37, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
This source returns a 403 error.
Which citation number is it I can't locate it?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:40, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I think we're about there, so I'm happy to put this On hold. Sorry about the delays in real life. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
I don't know how to add an information so please can someone add it:
at the end of the article it is said that paco de lucia is going to turkey and morocco.
Well he's also attending the International Festival of Carthage, Tunisia. He will give a concert on the 31 july 2013.
Here are some sources (in french):
http://www.tunisky.com/paco-de-lucia-au-festival-de-carthage-le-31-juillet/
Thanks for the great work!
Jalloulo ( talk) 11:59, 11 June 2013 (UTC)jalloulo
So far, we don't seem to have confirmation of the date of death - the blog (improperly) used as a citation is dated Feb 26th, and says he died 'last night', which is ambiguous. [3] The BBC, which I have cited, doesn't give a date. [4]. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 13:11, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I see that Reuters reports "died on Wednesday", which would make the 26th correct. [5] It might be worthwhile to check this against later sources, as they become available though - early reports often seem to get death dates wrong. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 13:18, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
De Lucía is not his surname, so we cannot use it as such: "De Lucía is, De Lucía was, De Lucía played" etc. All these seem to be wrongly used. -- Why should I have a User Name? ( talk) 10:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
It would be more legitimate than using Paco or his real surname Sánchez. De Lucía is effectively his surname. Gary Glitter you'd say Glitter went to Vietnam wouldn't you?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:59, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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The mother of Paco de Lucía was born in Castro Marim, a locality south east of Portugal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castro_Marim_Municipality
Paco recorded an album called Castro Marín in homage to his mother's town. 85.139.86.93 ( talk) 15:22, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
I am exposing a metric for the importance of albums, styles and partners. The massive visitation of Paco de Lucía's article have strong correlated audience in another articles. The traffic statistics behaviour of the 2014-02-26 event — at the Paco's dead day, Paco's page jumps from average ~300/day to ~79000 (260x) — can be used as a "metric" of the importance (in the general point of view of the audience):
Comparing with citations of artits names at the article's text (at same date): Camarón de la Isla (8 citations, under-cited cmp Coryell); Tomatito (0 citations, under-cited); Al Di Meola (12 citations); John McLaughlin (10 citations, over-cited cmp Meola); Larry Coryell (6 citations); Javier Limón (1 citations, under-cited cmp Coryell); Paco de Lucía Sextet (4 citations, under-cited); Pepe de Lucía (4); Ramón de Algeciras (1, under-cited).
Musics:
Albuns:
Styles:
Some cited bands and artists like Pata Negra, Julio_Iglesias or Erick Clapton have no correlation (0x); Chick Corea low/diffused correlation (~2x).
-- Krauss ( talk) 21:37, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
I speak both Spanish and Portuguese and I'm familiar with naming standards for the Iberian peninsula. What is the point of using "Francisco Gustavo Sánchez Gomes"? It just sounds like a weird hybridization. The Spanish version of the article uses "Francisco Gustavo Sánchez Gómez". Was the artist actually born under the name "Francisco Gustavo Sánchez Gomes" or "Francisco Gustavo Sánchez Gómez"? He was born in Andalucía so I assume they used the second rather than the first.
ICE77 ( talk) 08:59, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes, his birth certificate was certainly showing what his actual name was (Sánchez Gómez or Sánchez Gomes). Either way, the naming in the English and the Spanish versions of this article do not match.
ICE77 ( talk) 02:27, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Paco de Lucías official website says "Francisco Sánchez Gómez, Alias Paco de Lucía". In decades and centuries past, specially before computers, people were not so picky about spelling and names were often adapted or "translated". It seems modst likely that his birth was registered as "Sánchez Gómez" even though his mother's surname was "Gomes". GS3 ( talk) 20:29, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I see the page's new OWNer User:Rms125a@hotmail.com thinks that Paco was first and foremost a composer which is ridiculous. He was and always will be a flamenco guitarist who happened to compose some of his own songs. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
He's attracted a lot of new attention since his death like a lot of people do. I can't understand the thinking behind placing composer first. It's sort of like saying Jimi Hendrix was an American composer, producer and guitarist.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:45, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
The English version shows just one marriage and 3 children. The Spanish has 2 marriages, 5 children in total. Seems that the English version is outdated. 2.139.197.17 ( talk) 10:05, 21 December 2016 (UTC)ElaHuguet
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In nearly 40 years as flamenco journalist, I have seldom, if ever, seen Paco de Lucía referred to as "De Lucía" outside of Wikipedia; he is simply "Lucía", as as far as I'm aware this is the normal convention. Certainly in libraries (I've just looked), he is "Lucía, Paco de", not "De Lucía, Paco".
I therefore move that the article be modified accordingly — unless, of course, the Wikipedia standard is different.
Paul Magnussen ( talk) 19:30, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Reference is made to the 1st paragraph of the "1970s" Section and the 2nd paragraph of the "1960s" Section of the article, both of which make reference to one of my father´s works, "Impetu".
After almost 50 years since Paco de Lucia´s original LP "El Mundo del Flamenco" was issued in 1971, I am pleased to see that this article captures the fact that the piece included in this record titled "El Impetu" is, in fact, "Impetu" (without the article "El") composed by Mario Escudero, and which Paco de Lucia first recorded in 1967 in his album "La Fabulosa Guitarra de Paco de Lucia" (and which correctly indicated both the name and composer of this work as Mario Escudero, not Francisco Sanchez Gomez (aka Paco de Lucia) as it appears in the 1971 album). To that effect, it should be noted that barring the dancer´s "zapateado" added to the work in the second record, the musical interpretation of the work is exactly the same in both records. To me, for example, this is like attributing "Asturias" as an original work of Lucero Tena for adding castanets to Isaac Albeniz´s own work - and Albeniz´s name is no where to be found.
Lastly, Paco de Lucia´s "El Impetu" work is registered as an original composition by Paco de Lucia in the SGAE since 1971, albeit it should also be noted that after raising this issue with the artist´s heirs, they have assured me they are in the process of correcting this inscription so that the correct composer is properly reflected moving forward.