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Since these are all issues with my edits, I'll tackle them all at one shot. Epicgenius ( talk) 20:44, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
The article was created as "Pabst Hotel, 42nd Street" and was moved by Epicgenius to the present location. I think that's not a good idea. The article itself mentions two other Pabst Hotels in New York City -- the Pabst Grand Circle and the Pabst Loop in Coney Island. The various Pabst Hotels can easily confuse users. The distinction is necessary. I would suggest restoring it. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 19:26, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Why would anyone add an image to an infoxbox called "Pabst Hotel" which is not of the Pabst Hotel? Vzeebjtf ( talk) 19:29, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
How is "The Pabst Hotel was a hotel which occupied…" better than "The Pabst Hotel occupied…"? Vzeebjtf ( talk) 19:31, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
WTF does that title mean? Vzeebjtf ( talk) 20:32, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Why did you add frames to the pictures? It just makes them smaller.
Also, arranging the images in two rows, rather than one, increases the distance between the upper half of the text and the lower. The gallery is meant (among other purposes) to enable the user to visualize the portico and its relationship with the sidewalk and the dining room. It was placed in the center of the article to minimize the distance a user's eye has to travel to go back and forth between the text and the elucidating images. Ordinarily, separating the text that way should be avoided, but in this case I thought it was worth doing, provided that the separation between the upper and lower half of the text is minimized.
Another purpose of the gallery was to enable certain side-by-side comparisons; e. g., between the image of the site before construction of the hotel, which you moved to the infobox, and the image originally placed next to it, of the hotel. Since the two are taken from about the same viewpoint, they make a nice before-and-after pair. Unfortunately, you spoiled that by moving one of the pictures.
It may not be obvious, but the gallery was thoughtfully conceived, and the pictures were purposefully selected and positioned. I think you should change it only for a compelling reason. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 20:51, 13 September 2014 (UTC) (Corrected) Vzeebjtf ( talk) 21:08, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
I wrote that it was "open in 1900", not that it "opened in 1900" because I could not discover when it opened; however, I found the reference cited indicating it was open in 1900. It is possible it opened earlier. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 20:57, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Since there has been no response to the comments above, I have restored the article to its original (and better) form. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 10:18, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Coulda fooled me; what would you do different if you did intend to edit war with me? I have already explained myself. Just reread what I wrote. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 23:20, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
The point is, you need to accept others' changes if you want to ask for a review. A good idea is to reread advice on your talk page. Epicgenius ( talk) 23:26, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
As for the review, I did the real review after you mentioned it on the project page. Before, it was merely reorganization. Epicgenius ( talk) 23:43, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Now you're edit warring again. Just so you know, you are at 3 reverts within 24 hours now. Another revert is grounds for administrator intervention. Epicgenius ( talk) 01:18, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
It further reduced the value of the hotel to customers, and, therefore, to its owners. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 21:35, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
This violates guidance. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 21:36, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
I had begun the process of moving images from the gallery section to the relevant article sections but was reverted. From WP:gallery "Generally, a gallery should not be added so long as there is space for images to be effectively presented adjacent to text." So, for example, the photo of construction of the subway station by the hotel belongs in the section of the article about the development of subway service. FloridaArmy ( talk) 03:48, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
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Since these are all issues with my edits, I'll tackle them all at one shot. Epicgenius ( talk) 20:44, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
The article was created as "Pabst Hotel, 42nd Street" and was moved by Epicgenius to the present location. I think that's not a good idea. The article itself mentions two other Pabst Hotels in New York City -- the Pabst Grand Circle and the Pabst Loop in Coney Island. The various Pabst Hotels can easily confuse users. The distinction is necessary. I would suggest restoring it. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 19:26, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Why would anyone add an image to an infoxbox called "Pabst Hotel" which is not of the Pabst Hotel? Vzeebjtf ( talk) 19:29, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
How is "The Pabst Hotel was a hotel which occupied…" better than "The Pabst Hotel occupied…"? Vzeebjtf ( talk) 19:31, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
WTF does that title mean? Vzeebjtf ( talk) 20:32, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Why did you add frames to the pictures? It just makes them smaller.
Also, arranging the images in two rows, rather than one, increases the distance between the upper half of the text and the lower. The gallery is meant (among other purposes) to enable the user to visualize the portico and its relationship with the sidewalk and the dining room. It was placed in the center of the article to minimize the distance a user's eye has to travel to go back and forth between the text and the elucidating images. Ordinarily, separating the text that way should be avoided, but in this case I thought it was worth doing, provided that the separation between the upper and lower half of the text is minimized.
Another purpose of the gallery was to enable certain side-by-side comparisons; e. g., between the image of the site before construction of the hotel, which you moved to the infobox, and the image originally placed next to it, of the hotel. Since the two are taken from about the same viewpoint, they make a nice before-and-after pair. Unfortunately, you spoiled that by moving one of the pictures.
It may not be obvious, but the gallery was thoughtfully conceived, and the pictures were purposefully selected and positioned. I think you should change it only for a compelling reason. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 20:51, 13 September 2014 (UTC) (Corrected) Vzeebjtf ( talk) 21:08, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
I wrote that it was "open in 1900", not that it "opened in 1900" because I could not discover when it opened; however, I found the reference cited indicating it was open in 1900. It is possible it opened earlier. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 20:57, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Since there has been no response to the comments above, I have restored the article to its original (and better) form. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 10:18, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Coulda fooled me; what would you do different if you did intend to edit war with me? I have already explained myself. Just reread what I wrote. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 23:20, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
The point is, you need to accept others' changes if you want to ask for a review. A good idea is to reread advice on your talk page. Epicgenius ( talk) 23:26, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
As for the review, I did the real review after you mentioned it on the project page. Before, it was merely reorganization. Epicgenius ( talk) 23:43, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Now you're edit warring again. Just so you know, you are at 3 reverts within 24 hours now. Another revert is grounds for administrator intervention. Epicgenius ( talk) 01:18, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
It further reduced the value of the hotel to customers, and, therefore, to its owners. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 21:35, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
This violates guidance. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 21:36, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
I had begun the process of moving images from the gallery section to the relevant article sections but was reverted. From WP:gallery "Generally, a gallery should not be added so long as there is space for images to be effectively presented adjacent to text." So, for example, the photo of construction of the subway station by the hotel belongs in the section of the article about the development of subway service. FloridaArmy ( talk) 03:48, 2 October 2018 (UTC)