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The article mentions the spacewar game as one of the earliest computer games, but surely there are earlier examples? For instance I came across mention that a machine in 1954 was set up to play Nim with visitors at an "open day" at a university. Perhaps those more familiar with computing history can name even earlier examples? EverGreg ( talk) 20:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm surprised nothing is mentioned about the implementation of digital rights management by several big name developers/publishers ( Valve with just about any Valve Steam game, 2K Games for BioShock, Electronic Arts for Spore, Rockstar Games for Grand Theft Auto IV, Ubisoft for Assassin's Creed II) over the years. It's controversial, yes, but it's very well documented. So why is there no word on it? - 60.50.253.82 ( talk) 18:17, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Alright lads? Heh heh. I think there should be an article which starts with "a computer game is the kind of game which is played by the use of a computer", like the Swedish wikipedia article 'datorspel'.
"As of the 2000's, PC games are often regarded as offering a deeper and more complex experience than console games"
Aren't the majority of pc games released also released on console now? And which games and just... What? That seems like a silly and somewhat biased statement even if you think that's good sourcing. 69.204.74.28 ( talk) 00:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
The three links all talk about the differences between pc games and console games, but they still agree that pc games and console games just inherently focus on different things. I think the original statement above may not necessarily be wrong, but the wording may be confusing the meaning. A better way to say it may be "a different experience" rather than "deeper and more complex".
In any case, the sentence does not fit in with the context of the opening paragraph, nor does the rest of the article return to the topic of pc games v. console games, so I'm not sure I see a point for it being there at all. Teapotarius ( talk) 01:08, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
The statement sticks out like a sore thumb, and in its current form has no place in this article. I'm deleting it, with the hope that if someone puts it back, they do so by telling who says PC games are deeper and more immersive, why they think that, what the opposing view is, and most of all, why any of that is important and of encyclopaedic value.
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I have a problem with the way this article is addressed. The title is Personal Computer game , but then right at the start it mentions SpaceWar! as an example... well, that's just wrong because SpaceWar! was only playable in a room-sized computer, several years before the first PC.
Even if the article was about any computer, in general, SpaceWar! would still be an inaccurate example because there are official records of computer games starting as early as 1939/1940 (NIMATRON) - that's about 15 years before SpaceWar!.
I don't want to make changes without discussing the subject, so any opinions are appreciated.
Raven-14 ( talk) 17:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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Why is this article in the category Category:Windows games? This article is about personal computer games in general, not specifically about Windows games. It is true that this article mostly concerns Windows games, and Windows is the most popular games environment today, but that doesn't mean that personal computer games are equal to Windows games. Windows isn't even the only games environment today, just the most popular one. Some of the modern games are also released for MacOS and/or Linux. JIP | Talk 15:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 02:59, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Personal computer game → PC game – Common name. Search returns: PC game, 414, personnel computer game 36. Marcus Qwertyus 01:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
The title should be personal computer game not PC game as PC refers only to the IBM PC and its clones. SpeakFree (talk)( contribs) 14:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move Mike Cline ( talk) 01:45, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
PC game →
Computer game –
Common name.
There are 62,262,000 people in the United Kingdom and 312,833,000 people in the United States of America. So five times as many people only say "computer" when they mean a personal computer, not a video game on something other than a personal computer. Canada has 34,692,000 and Australia has 22,800,812, with New Zealand having 4,414,400 people. If anyone is from one of those nations, can you tell us what they call it there? We should go by what most people in the world call something, not just what one group calls them in one nation. Dream Focus 19:37, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Should every single article with (computer game) in its title be renamed (video game)? Why not (PC game) if its only for the personal computer? [1] Dream Focus 19:12, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
The original Sound Blaster's DSP wasn't a digital signal processor. It was a "digital sound processor" (nothing more than a common micro-controller), it was a marketing move. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.155.194.191 ( talk) 07:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
I don't actually know how to fix that, but as someone who might just squeeze into the "bedroom coder"[1] set mentioned early on in the article I think that the experience and progression described here wasn't quite the same in Europe. In the UK we seemed to move straight from "Pong" on a TV to "ZX81", though perhaps the more affluent kids saw intermediate stages.
[1] I did code in my bedroom, and the games did sell commercially. They are probably all now rightfully forgotten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.223.243 ( talk) 23:21, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
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The article mentions the spacewar game as one of the earliest computer games, but surely there are earlier examples? For instance I came across mention that a machine in 1954 was set up to play Nim with visitors at an "open day" at a university. Perhaps those more familiar with computing history can name even earlier examples? EverGreg ( talk) 20:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm surprised nothing is mentioned about the implementation of digital rights management by several big name developers/publishers ( Valve with just about any Valve Steam game, 2K Games for BioShock, Electronic Arts for Spore, Rockstar Games for Grand Theft Auto IV, Ubisoft for Assassin's Creed II) over the years. It's controversial, yes, but it's very well documented. So why is there no word on it? - 60.50.253.82 ( talk) 18:17, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Alright lads? Heh heh. I think there should be an article which starts with "a computer game is the kind of game which is played by the use of a computer", like the Swedish wikipedia article 'datorspel'.
"As of the 2000's, PC games are often regarded as offering a deeper and more complex experience than console games"
Aren't the majority of pc games released also released on console now? And which games and just... What? That seems like a silly and somewhat biased statement even if you think that's good sourcing. 69.204.74.28 ( talk) 00:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
The three links all talk about the differences between pc games and console games, but they still agree that pc games and console games just inherently focus on different things. I think the original statement above may not necessarily be wrong, but the wording may be confusing the meaning. A better way to say it may be "a different experience" rather than "deeper and more complex".
In any case, the sentence does not fit in with the context of the opening paragraph, nor does the rest of the article return to the topic of pc games v. console games, so I'm not sure I see a point for it being there at all. Teapotarius ( talk) 01:08, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
The statement sticks out like a sore thumb, and in its current form has no place in this article. I'm deleting it, with the hope that if someone puts it back, they do so by telling who says PC games are deeper and more immersive, why they think that, what the opposing view is, and most of all, why any of that is important and of encyclopaedic value.
Whimper (
talk) 11:20, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
I have a problem with the way this article is addressed. The title is Personal Computer game , but then right at the start it mentions SpaceWar! as an example... well, that's just wrong because SpaceWar! was only playable in a room-sized computer, several years before the first PC.
Even if the article was about any computer, in general, SpaceWar! would still be an inaccurate example because there are official records of computer games starting as early as 1939/1940 (NIMATRON) - that's about 15 years before SpaceWar!.
I don't want to make changes without discussing the subject, so any opinions are appreciated.
Raven-14 ( talk) 17:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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Why is this article in the category Category:Windows games? This article is about personal computer games in general, not specifically about Windows games. It is true that this article mostly concerns Windows games, and Windows is the most popular games environment today, but that doesn't mean that personal computer games are equal to Windows games. Windows isn't even the only games environment today, just the most popular one. Some of the modern games are also released for MacOS and/or Linux. JIP | Talk 15:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 02:59, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Personal computer game → PC game – Common name. Search returns: PC game, 414, personnel computer game 36. Marcus Qwertyus 01:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
The title should be personal computer game not PC game as PC refers only to the IBM PC and its clones. SpeakFree (talk)( contribs) 14:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move Mike Cline ( talk) 01:45, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
PC game →
Computer game –
Common name.
There are 62,262,000 people in the United Kingdom and 312,833,000 people in the United States of America. So five times as many people only say "computer" when they mean a personal computer, not a video game on something other than a personal computer. Canada has 34,692,000 and Australia has 22,800,812, with New Zealand having 4,414,400 people. If anyone is from one of those nations, can you tell us what they call it there? We should go by what most people in the world call something, not just what one group calls them in one nation. Dream Focus 19:37, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Should every single article with (computer game) in its title be renamed (video game)? Why not (PC game) if its only for the personal computer? [1] Dream Focus 19:12, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
The original Sound Blaster's DSP wasn't a digital signal processor. It was a "digital sound processor" (nothing more than a common micro-controller), it was a marketing move. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.155.194.191 ( talk) 07:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
I don't actually know how to fix that, but as someone who might just squeeze into the "bedroom coder"[1] set mentioned early on in the article I think that the experience and progression described here wasn't quite the same in Europe. In the UK we seemed to move straight from "Pong" on a TV to "ZX81", though perhaps the more affluent kids saw intermediate stages.
[1] I did code in my bedroom, and the games did sell commercially. They are probably all now rightfully forgotten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.223.243 ( talk) 23:21, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
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