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Care to provide evidence for this claim? As far as i know. Burki's identify as Pashtun and are part of the Pashtun tribal confederation, also Ormuri is believed to be a dialect of Pashto like Wazirwola. Akmal94 ( talk) 19:00, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
I removed the editsemiprotected template and such from the start of the article. If you feel the page needs protection for some reason, go to WP:RFPP and follow the direction to make a protection request. Thanks, Celestra ( talk) 15:55, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
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Please change the spelling of my last name (Zafeer Burki) from "Burki" to "Berki" because in english "Burki" "Barki" and "Berki" are all used to spell the traditional "Burki" name and add either the midddle initials or the full midlle name so that the name is listed as either
"Zafeer H.K. Berki, MD" or "Zafeer Hussain Khan Berki, MD."
Likewise please add "Berki" in the beginning of the article where the different spellings/pronunciations of "Burki" are mentioned.
Thank you. 152.132.8.196 ( talk) 18:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Partly done: I've changed the lead sentence, adding Berki. Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to like what I do for the other part; I'll explain in a new section below.
It does not bother me that you have removed my name from the article. I don't know how you define "notable." However, I would like to bring to your attention that I am probably the only psychiatrist in USA if not the world who is board certified in four specialties: Psychiatry, Geriatric Psychiatry, Psychosomatic Medicine and Addiction medicine. The first three can be verified from the website of American Board of Psychiatry & Neurology and the "Addiction Medicine" from American Board of Addiction Medicine.
Thanks anyway for editing the article and adding "BERKI" to it.
Zafeer H.K. Berki —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
152.132.8.196 (
talk)
23:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Don't know what your agenda or interest is in our tribe but you need to stop acting like an Egyptian autocrat or worse a Mughal Emperor. The song clearly is relevant as it refers to Pir Roshan and even identifies the location on song and is historically v.relevant. Second, all the generals mentioned are legit just google some of the names That olympians Niaz and Hamidullah do not have wiki pages is that not everyone wants to "advertise" but all you have to do is google Olympics 48 and hockey Pakistan and voila theypop up,. This is our tribes page and not sure what yoru agenda is but if necessary will take this up higher as tyranny in all its forms must be challegned. Khuday pay amaaan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virginiacity ( talk • contribs) 15:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Per
WP:BLP and
WP:NLIST, people cannot appear on lists like this unless they either 1) have their own wiki-article, or 2) have one or more references that verifies that the person is part of this tribe and that they are notable. As such, I am going to now go through and remove all people that don't meet this criteria. If anyone has references for any of the removed people, feel free to add them back on the list with references.
Qwyrxian (
talk)
02:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Youtube videos are not reliable sources, and the claims that you are making certainly need good verification; that's why I removed edits by Virginiacity ( talk · contribs) here. Chzz ► 13:31, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Please provide proof Video by Video that thay are not relaible, along with the Wiki definition of reliable.
Had you taken the time to read the title of the videos or if you understood them or better yet if you were from the area you would not take such a rash step. From this one can reasonably conclude you have some agenda which appears to be in cahoots with other Wiki Admins Namely: Qwyrxian and Nyttend, as they fall into the same category yet seem to show termendous interest in an area which is not their domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2011khan ( talk • contribs) 15:53, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Nyttend: Please remove the christian conservative pictures from your wikisite as we cannot verify those pictures are actually what you claim them to be. Once you have done this then we can also do the same on this site.
Wiki Admin Hyprocracy = Wiki Vandalism Namely: Qwyrxian, Chzz, Nyttend and The Blade of the Northern Lights — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2011khan ( talk • contribs) 09:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
YELLOWMONKEY your account was blocked in November 2010 for all the right wing INDIAN propaganda and I am surprised to see Wiki Allowed you to open another account under a different name. You Called a Living Person "Javed Burki" a Bengali, remember that Vandalism. Anyway I have read WP:Reliable source and there is not mention of YouTube, nor is there any requirement for people to verify copyright, otherwise you would have to also verify if CNN has copyright for the videos they publish, so get real dude. So YellowMonkey or Qwyrxian, here is the quote from Wiki, now I hope Wiki Admin will investigate and pull your account.
Self-published and questionable sources as sources on themselves
Self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves, without the requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as:
the material is not unduly self-serving; it does not involve claims about third parties (such as people, organizations, or other entities); it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject; there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; the article is not based primarily on such sources.
This also applies to pages on social networking sites such as Twitter and Facebook. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2011khan ( talk • contribs) 19:29, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Very enlightening indeed googling wikipedia and educating oneself on what's what. Most of us have lives and not copious amounts of time to spend VANDALIZING sites that --judging from the "gatekeepers" publicly enunciated "interests"-- shouldn't be so obsessed about an obscure subject matter as the Burki!!! Yet, I agree with Khan here, who seems to have more proficiency at navigating the intricacies of Wikipedia (is this intentional as conspiracy theorists might deduce??) I'm tempted to tell these "gatekeepers," who know squat about this subject but have somehow been assigned the task of "policing" this subject (why indeed???), to DELETE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY CONTRIBUTIONS SINCE 2008. But that would be a victory to these "powers that be." If anyone at Wikipedia monitoring the monitors (i.e. gatekeepers) should take a disinterested interest in the efforts to eliminate the TRUTH and info via utube relevant to the place of origin and history/culture of this tribe with mostly oral history (this is not the West) and sourcing is indeed a challenge when it comes to first hand accounts/eye witness accounts of the Soviet/Russian GENOCIDE in Logar and Baraki Barak. The survivors, unlike those in the West, didn't own cameras. Most can barely write. It is all ORAL history. But certain "gatekeepers" here want to hide the truth of their comrades past. Sorry but the truth is still the truth even if you try to kill the messenger Ruskies. Anyhow, I hope Mr Wales --who seems like a decent man-- eliminates these hiccups. There will be other ways to skin this cat. Trust me. SAPERE AUDE. VirginiaCity
Since WikiAdmins have spent so much time writing long essay, I will take you up on your offer. Plese add the acceptable quotes from your California book and the "Appropriate Videos", if there are suitable we will let you know. We take you up on your collaboration....— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2011khan ( talk • contribs)
Qwyrxian, you were going to resolve the matter, these were false promises as you did absolutely nothing. Therefore, you cannot be allowed to hijack this site, we do not interfere in INDIAN history, so why are you interfering in ours
Althought your data center may be supported out of India, this is probaly why the above para gets deleted instantly. Wiki really needs to review the conduct of some of their editors and offshore data center staff.
Please advise what is your role or qualificaiton on the Subject? We do not interefer in your INDIAN History lessons on Dalits, so why are you interfering in ours??? This certainly call for an internal review by Wikki of you and your supporting Editors who also seem to have a lot of expertise on Indian affairs.
I have checked the YouTube reference and as the reader is redirected to YouTube there is no quesiton of copyright. If there is a copyright viloation then that is the hosts responsibilit, in this case YouTube.
Here is the reference from Wiki which is very clear, kindly revert what you have deleted to correct your mistake.
Wikipedia:WikiProject External links
There is no blanket ban on linking to YouTube or other user-submitted video sites, as long as the links abide by the guidelines on this page (see Restrictions on linking and Links normally to be avoided). Many videos hosted on YouTube or similar sites do not meet the standards for inclusion in External links sections, and copyright is of particular concern. Many YouTube videos of newscasts, shows or other content of interest to Wikipedia visitors are copyright violations and should not be linked to. Links should be evaluated for inclusion with due care on a case-by-case basis. Links to online videos should also identify additional software necessary for readers to view the content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2011khan ( talk • contribs) 13:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
I realise that there were discussions about who could/could not be listed in the Notables section last year but it still does not seem right to me. For example, the source for one entry is the person's company, Burki Group. If that is the level of sourcing generally required then we would have an awful lot of people listed in an awful lot of articles.
As far as I am concerned, if someone is incapable of meeting our general notability guideline then they usually should not be listed. And the best test for meeting that guideline is that we actually have an article about the person. Failing that, we really must consider the requirement for multiple independent sources for entries in this list. Thoughts? - Sitush ( talk) 21:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
The Ormur are not Pashtun, they are a distinct ethnic group. However, they will surrounded by Pashtuns in three islands in Baraki Barak, Kaniguram and Nawshera. So I have taken out references to them being a Pashtun tribe. The Burki of Jalandhar however are simply a Punjabi Muslim caste now, being completely assimilated in Punjabi culture. -- WALTHAM2 ( talk) 22:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
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Goverment Services Dr. Muhammad Naseer Khan (Shaikh Darvesh) Vice Chancellor at Bahauddin Zakariya University Adeelkhan87 ( talk) 19:44, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
as we know that the burki tribe from pushtoon is muslim all over the world we also know that the who live anywhere was known by each other this is the only tribe who are muslim all over the world
as we know that the burki tribe from pushtoon is muslim all over the world we also know that the who live anywhere was known by each other this is the only tribe who are muslim all over the world — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.172.224 ( talk) 02:22, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Lt General Wajid Ali Khan Burki was a 3 star General, a renowned opthalmologist [1] and founding President of College of Physicians and Surgeons of Pakistan. His name may please be added under "Notable personalities".
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Care to provide evidence for this claim? As far as i know. Burki's identify as Pashtun and are part of the Pashtun tribal confederation, also Ormuri is believed to be a dialect of Pashto like Wazirwola. Akmal94 ( talk) 19:00, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
I removed the editsemiprotected template and such from the start of the article. If you feel the page needs protection for some reason, go to WP:RFPP and follow the direction to make a protection request. Thanks, Celestra ( talk) 15:55, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
{{edit semi-protected}}
Please change the spelling of my last name (Zafeer Burki) from "Burki" to "Berki" because in english "Burki" "Barki" and "Berki" are all used to spell the traditional "Burki" name and add either the midddle initials or the full midlle name so that the name is listed as either
"Zafeer H.K. Berki, MD" or "Zafeer Hussain Khan Berki, MD."
Likewise please add "Berki" in the beginning of the article where the different spellings/pronunciations of "Burki" are mentioned.
Thank you. 152.132.8.196 ( talk) 18:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Partly done: I've changed the lead sentence, adding Berki. Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to like what I do for the other part; I'll explain in a new section below.
It does not bother me that you have removed my name from the article. I don't know how you define "notable." However, I would like to bring to your attention that I am probably the only psychiatrist in USA if not the world who is board certified in four specialties: Psychiatry, Geriatric Psychiatry, Psychosomatic Medicine and Addiction medicine. The first three can be verified from the website of American Board of Psychiatry & Neurology and the "Addiction Medicine" from American Board of Addiction Medicine.
Thanks anyway for editing the article and adding "BERKI" to it.
Zafeer H.K. Berki —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
152.132.8.196 (
talk)
23:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Don't know what your agenda or interest is in our tribe but you need to stop acting like an Egyptian autocrat or worse a Mughal Emperor. The song clearly is relevant as it refers to Pir Roshan and even identifies the location on song and is historically v.relevant. Second, all the generals mentioned are legit just google some of the names That olympians Niaz and Hamidullah do not have wiki pages is that not everyone wants to "advertise" but all you have to do is google Olympics 48 and hockey Pakistan and voila theypop up,. This is our tribes page and not sure what yoru agenda is but if necessary will take this up higher as tyranny in all its forms must be challegned. Khuday pay amaaan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virginiacity ( talk • contribs) 15:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Per
WP:BLP and
WP:NLIST, people cannot appear on lists like this unless they either 1) have their own wiki-article, or 2) have one or more references that verifies that the person is part of this tribe and that they are notable. As such, I am going to now go through and remove all people that don't meet this criteria. If anyone has references for any of the removed people, feel free to add them back on the list with references.
Qwyrxian (
talk)
02:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Youtube videos are not reliable sources, and the claims that you are making certainly need good verification; that's why I removed edits by Virginiacity ( talk · contribs) here. Chzz ► 13:31, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Please provide proof Video by Video that thay are not relaible, along with the Wiki definition of reliable.
Had you taken the time to read the title of the videos or if you understood them or better yet if you were from the area you would not take such a rash step. From this one can reasonably conclude you have some agenda which appears to be in cahoots with other Wiki Admins Namely: Qwyrxian and Nyttend, as they fall into the same category yet seem to show termendous interest in an area which is not their domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2011khan ( talk • contribs) 15:53, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Nyttend: Please remove the christian conservative pictures from your wikisite as we cannot verify those pictures are actually what you claim them to be. Once you have done this then we can also do the same on this site.
Wiki Admin Hyprocracy = Wiki Vandalism Namely: Qwyrxian, Chzz, Nyttend and The Blade of the Northern Lights — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2011khan ( talk • contribs) 09:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
YELLOWMONKEY your account was blocked in November 2010 for all the right wing INDIAN propaganda and I am surprised to see Wiki Allowed you to open another account under a different name. You Called a Living Person "Javed Burki" a Bengali, remember that Vandalism. Anyway I have read WP:Reliable source and there is not mention of YouTube, nor is there any requirement for people to verify copyright, otherwise you would have to also verify if CNN has copyright for the videos they publish, so get real dude. So YellowMonkey or Qwyrxian, here is the quote from Wiki, now I hope Wiki Admin will investigate and pull your account.
Self-published and questionable sources as sources on themselves
Self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves, without the requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as:
the material is not unduly self-serving; it does not involve claims about third parties (such as people, organizations, or other entities); it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject; there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; the article is not based primarily on such sources.
This also applies to pages on social networking sites such as Twitter and Facebook. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2011khan ( talk • contribs) 19:29, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Very enlightening indeed googling wikipedia and educating oneself on what's what. Most of us have lives and not copious amounts of time to spend VANDALIZING sites that --judging from the "gatekeepers" publicly enunciated "interests"-- shouldn't be so obsessed about an obscure subject matter as the Burki!!! Yet, I agree with Khan here, who seems to have more proficiency at navigating the intricacies of Wikipedia (is this intentional as conspiracy theorists might deduce??) I'm tempted to tell these "gatekeepers," who know squat about this subject but have somehow been assigned the task of "policing" this subject (why indeed???), to DELETE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY CONTRIBUTIONS SINCE 2008. But that would be a victory to these "powers that be." If anyone at Wikipedia monitoring the monitors (i.e. gatekeepers) should take a disinterested interest in the efforts to eliminate the TRUTH and info via utube relevant to the place of origin and history/culture of this tribe with mostly oral history (this is not the West) and sourcing is indeed a challenge when it comes to first hand accounts/eye witness accounts of the Soviet/Russian GENOCIDE in Logar and Baraki Barak. The survivors, unlike those in the West, didn't own cameras. Most can barely write. It is all ORAL history. But certain "gatekeepers" here want to hide the truth of their comrades past. Sorry but the truth is still the truth even if you try to kill the messenger Ruskies. Anyhow, I hope Mr Wales --who seems like a decent man-- eliminates these hiccups. There will be other ways to skin this cat. Trust me. SAPERE AUDE. VirginiaCity
Since WikiAdmins have spent so much time writing long essay, I will take you up on your offer. Plese add the acceptable quotes from your California book and the "Appropriate Videos", if there are suitable we will let you know. We take you up on your collaboration....— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2011khan ( talk • contribs)
Qwyrxian, you were going to resolve the matter, these were false promises as you did absolutely nothing. Therefore, you cannot be allowed to hijack this site, we do not interfere in INDIAN history, so why are you interfering in ours
Althought your data center may be supported out of India, this is probaly why the above para gets deleted instantly. Wiki really needs to review the conduct of some of their editors and offshore data center staff.
Please advise what is your role or qualificaiton on the Subject? We do not interefer in your INDIAN History lessons on Dalits, so why are you interfering in ours??? This certainly call for an internal review by Wikki of you and your supporting Editors who also seem to have a lot of expertise on Indian affairs.
I have checked the YouTube reference and as the reader is redirected to YouTube there is no quesiton of copyright. If there is a copyright viloation then that is the hosts responsibilit, in this case YouTube.
Here is the reference from Wiki which is very clear, kindly revert what you have deleted to correct your mistake.
Wikipedia:WikiProject External links
There is no blanket ban on linking to YouTube or other user-submitted video sites, as long as the links abide by the guidelines on this page (see Restrictions on linking and Links normally to be avoided). Many videos hosted on YouTube or similar sites do not meet the standards for inclusion in External links sections, and copyright is of particular concern. Many YouTube videos of newscasts, shows or other content of interest to Wikipedia visitors are copyright violations and should not be linked to. Links should be evaluated for inclusion with due care on a case-by-case basis. Links to online videos should also identify additional software necessary for readers to view the content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2011khan ( talk • contribs) 13:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
I realise that there were discussions about who could/could not be listed in the Notables section last year but it still does not seem right to me. For example, the source for one entry is the person's company, Burki Group. If that is the level of sourcing generally required then we would have an awful lot of people listed in an awful lot of articles.
As far as I am concerned, if someone is incapable of meeting our general notability guideline then they usually should not be listed. And the best test for meeting that guideline is that we actually have an article about the person. Failing that, we really must consider the requirement for multiple independent sources for entries in this list. Thoughts? - Sitush ( talk) 21:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
The Ormur are not Pashtun, they are a distinct ethnic group. However, they will surrounded by Pashtuns in three islands in Baraki Barak, Kaniguram and Nawshera. So I have taken out references to them being a Pashtun tribe. The Burki of Jalandhar however are simply a Punjabi Muslim caste now, being completely assimilated in Punjabi culture. -- WALTHAM2 ( talk) 22:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
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Goverment Services Dr. Muhammad Naseer Khan (Shaikh Darvesh) Vice Chancellor at Bahauddin Zakariya University Adeelkhan87 ( talk) 19:44, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
as we know that the burki tribe from pushtoon is muslim all over the world we also know that the who live anywhere was known by each other this is the only tribe who are muslim all over the world
as we know that the burki tribe from pushtoon is muslim all over the world we also know that the who live anywhere was known by each other this is the only tribe who are muslim all over the world — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.172.224 ( talk) 02:22, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Lt General Wajid Ali Khan Burki was a 3 star General, a renowned opthalmologist [1] and founding President of College of Physicians and Surgeons of Pakistan. His name may please be added under "Notable personalities".
References