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I am having several discussions about the pronounciation of the word Oregano.
Aussies pronounce it O ri Garno. non-skips sometimes call it O reg ano
What do others think
I've heard that oregano makes a nice boom and enhances the effect when included in an explosive mixture. Can anyone lend credibility to-or discredit-this idea?-- 'Net 04:40, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
This article says, "Outside the Mediterranean region, oregano is, rather surprisingly, little in use, except among Italian immigrants."
Aside from the sentence being awkward, I have to wonder what the person who wrote it was smoking. Oregano is "little in use" outside the Mediterranean!? Hardly. It's one of the most commonly used spices in the States, in my experience.
I strongly disagree with this page being moved to Oregano (spice) and have moved it back. -- WormRunner | Talk 06:40, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I removed this from the very end of the article :
Can anybody confirm or check? Cheers. -- Edcolins 19:16, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
The article says that oregano is one of the basis of Italian cooking. However, speaking as an Italian, I'd say this is rather a perception of Italian cooking as made outside of Italy. A recent discussion in an Italian cooking-related newsgroup (Message-ID: <83f882dgvdsqcpiapj0pc7n4eo7l56o3nl@4ax.com>, and follow-ups) turned out that most dishes in which oregano is used are based on grilled vegetables, grilled fish, or raw tomato. Only a few kinds of pizza have oregano toppings. More in general, this herb is associated with southern Italian cooking, and is rarely, if ever, used in northern Italian cooking. I think it would be better to use milder words than "conditio sine qua non". Maybe a distinction is needed between Italian cooking as done in Italy vs. abroad, but I'm not expert on the latter. Any comment? Thanks. -- Piero 06:39, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Removed this section (below); it seems very trivial - MPF 01:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
In dried form, oregano bears a similar appearance to marijuana. A popular urban legend is the story of an inexperienced person unwittingly purchasing the spice instead of the drug from an unscrupulous dealer. A reference to this was made in passing in the movie A Few Good Men.
Oregano or Pot Marijuana ... Its name derives from the Greek origanon [ὀρίγανον]: oros [ὄρος] “mountain” + the verb ganousthai [γανοῦσθαι] “delight in”, and can thus be roughly translated as "delight in being high".
See! They ARE related :-D M0ffx 00:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
In what language does oregano mean the joy of the mountains? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.227.68.171 ( talk • contribs)
None. It's a folk etymology that can be found in hundreds of websites, but there is no demonstrated evidence for it. The allegation is that it comes from the Greek language, where "oros" means mountain and "ganos" means joy. The Oxford English Dictionary says that this an apparent derivation, but stops short of calling it established. See here - dmmaus 02:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Suggested lead....
Another key element is carvacrol
Isomeric phenols (primarily carvacrol) in oregano oil in dilutions as low as 1/50,000 destroys Candida albicans, the Aspergillus mold, Staphylococcus, Campylobacter, Klebsiella, E.coli, Giardia, Pseudomonas, and Proteus. Another phenol constituent, thymol, boosts the immune system. These compounds also act as free radical scavengers (shield against toxins) thus preventing further tissue damage while encouraging healing. Oil of oregano is antiviral, antibacterial, antifungal, and antiparasitic. It also has strong antioxidant and anti-inflammatory effects and is an ideal product to use for people who suffer from CFS and/or fibromyalgia. This is not regular oregano, but a wild form (wild mountain oregano, vulgare species) of the spice, which has, until recently, not been available in Canada. Do not use a substitute or oregano from a grocery store because it will have no effect. oil of oregano natural herbal supplement offers a variety of remedies
--Caesar J. B. Squitti : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 22:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
There are always several symptoms that claims for miraculous properties for herbs and their essential oils have been borrowed from a popular aromatherapy 'novel', or have been posted by a supplier: Claims to cure controversial syndromes like CFS or fybromyalgia. Claims to be antiviral. Claims to be a 'free redical scavenger', to be 'antioxidant', or to boost the immune system. The above contribution sadly scores on all counts, and the reference is simply to an over-enthusiastic supplier of complementary remedies... Cjsunbird ( talk) 17:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
So some text will return. Telecine Guy ( talk) 06:55, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
The title in a section of this article is 'Cultivation and Uses', yet there is no mention of cultivation whatsoever. This whole section purely discusses its uses. Could someone please add information as to oregano's cultivation. Good examples of cultivation sections (in my opinion) can be seen in the basil and parsley articles (and no i didn't write them).
--Purns —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.23.130.14 ( talk) 05:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
The Oil with the long tradition of medicinal benefits and a supreme natural disinfectant is distilled from a "wild oregano" and is not the oregano available in stores, which is either marjoram or a Mexican substitute for oregano. Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).: C. Ingram, The Cure Is In The Cupboard, 1997 Knowledge House, ILL 60089.
66.251.102.206 (
talk)
17:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC) R Schep.
Oregano oil redirects to this page, but then the page mentions nothing about it. I came here to check if Oregano Oil is just more marketing propaganda or if there is any science behind it. At the very least it should mention that Oregano Oil is sold for its supposed health benefits (Amazon has 400+ Oregano Oil products).
-- Karuna8 ( talk) 17:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Please see my comments above about Oregano as a medicinal herb...
Cjsunbird (
talk)
17:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
The health benefits paragraph needs a complete rewrite, and a LOT more sources. I'm half tempted to throw a citation needed after every claim in that paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.37.244.137 ( talk) 21:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
There is no mention of toxicity whatsoever in the article. Other sources appear to suggest there may be hepatic toxicity when using a concentrated product such as oregano oil, and that it may also have potent sedative effects. It also may irritate skin, or make skin more photosensible allowing the sun to damage the skin more easily. It may also decrease the milk supply of nursing mothers. 66.11.179.30 ( talk) 16:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Marjoram oils should perhaps be used with caution, as should all concentrated essential oils, but they are all relatively safe and not indicated to cause photo-sensitivity. Hepatic toxicity should not be a problem if an oil is restricted to external use...
Cjsunbird (
talk)
17:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Thymus vulgaris and this one....???? The question is raised due to the fact that both of them share the prefix of vulgar- in their names -- 222.64.209.200 ( talk) 06:24, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
I salvaged this code from Origanum, it uses an obsolete taxonomy and should be in the present article. Someone might format it cleanly (it is horrible now, makes the article a mess to edit) and insert a discussion in the above section:
Dysmorodrepanis (
talk)
21:36, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Don't you think there should be a section on how to grow it, like the optimal soil conditions, etc?-- 66.176.187.104 ( talk) 17:32, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I removed
[1] the complete rewrite of the last paragraph of the "Medicinal" section because it removed sources and sourced information, and instead highlighted
Preuss, HG (2005 Apr). "Minimum inhibitory concentrations of herbal essential oils and monolaurin for gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria". Molecular and cellular biochemistry. 272 (1–2): 29–34.
PMID
16010969. {{
cite journal}}
: Check date values in: |date=
(
help); Unknown parameter |coauthors=
ignored (|author=
suggested) (
help) --
Ronz (
talk)
18:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Oregano is not just Origanum vulgare. If you have an article called Oregano, it needs to include all the other species known by that name. Oregano is a common name - and thus has no 'official' species designation. Whoever calls a plant oregano (well within traditions) is therefor equally correct - so this article needs to be rewritten to include all the other species equally. They are sort of mentioned but not equally, and many are missing.
Or move the article to the species O. vulgare. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.202.24.164 ( talk) 17:30, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
How to preserve? How long do fresh leaves last? Refrigeration? How to dry? Best storage of dried form? Freezing? Preserve in oil? - 96.233.20.34 ( talk) 14:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Zefr,
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources_%28medicine%29
"Speculative proposals and early-stage research should not be cited to imply wide acceptance. For example, results of an early-stage clinical trial would not be appropriate in the Treatment section on a disease because future treatments have little bearing on current practice. The results might – in some cases – be appropriate for inclusion in an article specifically dedicated to the treatment in question or to the researchers or businesses involved in it. Such information, particularly when citing secondary sources, may be appropriate in research sections of disease articles. To prevent misunderstanding, the text should clearly identify the level of research cited (e.g., "first-in-human safety testing").
In this case, I haven't over stated this research, just indicated it is existing and occurring. I should think this is an interesting thing for people to read who are interested in oregano. This does not represent medical advice, only information out there in the public sphere which communicates a possible treatment for something that we should ALL be concerned about.
Probrooks ( talk) 18:24, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
ok.... you haven't added any citations under anti-bacterial agent. I think it would be worth going into more detail including mentioning MRSA.
Probrooks ( talk) 21:13, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Probrooks ( talk) 20:35, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Im sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:4FC8:6D8:534:B279:F82C:8258 ( talk) 21:46, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Rant from now-blocked user. |
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
Why don't you just indicate the italian pronunciation, which happens to be [oˈʁeːganoː]? It would also be a good chance for you lot to exercise the 2 vowel sounds you have lost after the Great Vowel Shift (GVS), namely [eː] and [oː]. So 'shifted' according to the GVS logic, they would become [iː] and [uː] - doh! For more insight, read the (usually) last comment (penned by Yours truly) on /info/en/?search=Talk:Great_Vowel_Shift Contorista ( talk) 08:54, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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I am having several discussions about the pronounciation of the word Oregano.
Aussies pronounce it O ri Garno. non-skips sometimes call it O reg ano
What do others think
I've heard that oregano makes a nice boom and enhances the effect when included in an explosive mixture. Can anyone lend credibility to-or discredit-this idea?-- 'Net 04:40, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
This article says, "Outside the Mediterranean region, oregano is, rather surprisingly, little in use, except among Italian immigrants."
Aside from the sentence being awkward, I have to wonder what the person who wrote it was smoking. Oregano is "little in use" outside the Mediterranean!? Hardly. It's one of the most commonly used spices in the States, in my experience.
I strongly disagree with this page being moved to Oregano (spice) and have moved it back. -- WormRunner | Talk 06:40, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I removed this from the very end of the article :
Can anybody confirm or check? Cheers. -- Edcolins 19:16, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
The article says that oregano is one of the basis of Italian cooking. However, speaking as an Italian, I'd say this is rather a perception of Italian cooking as made outside of Italy. A recent discussion in an Italian cooking-related newsgroup (Message-ID: <83f882dgvdsqcpiapj0pc7n4eo7l56o3nl@4ax.com>, and follow-ups) turned out that most dishes in which oregano is used are based on grilled vegetables, grilled fish, or raw tomato. Only a few kinds of pizza have oregano toppings. More in general, this herb is associated with southern Italian cooking, and is rarely, if ever, used in northern Italian cooking. I think it would be better to use milder words than "conditio sine qua non". Maybe a distinction is needed between Italian cooking as done in Italy vs. abroad, but I'm not expert on the latter. Any comment? Thanks. -- Piero 06:39, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Removed this section (below); it seems very trivial - MPF 01:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
In dried form, oregano bears a similar appearance to marijuana. A popular urban legend is the story of an inexperienced person unwittingly purchasing the spice instead of the drug from an unscrupulous dealer. A reference to this was made in passing in the movie A Few Good Men.
Oregano or Pot Marijuana ... Its name derives from the Greek origanon [ὀρίγανον]: oros [ὄρος] “mountain” + the verb ganousthai [γανοῦσθαι] “delight in”, and can thus be roughly translated as "delight in being high".
See! They ARE related :-D M0ffx 00:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
In what language does oregano mean the joy of the mountains? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.227.68.171 ( talk • contribs)
None. It's a folk etymology that can be found in hundreds of websites, but there is no demonstrated evidence for it. The allegation is that it comes from the Greek language, where "oros" means mountain and "ganos" means joy. The Oxford English Dictionary says that this an apparent derivation, but stops short of calling it established. See here - dmmaus 02:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Suggested lead....
Another key element is carvacrol
Isomeric phenols (primarily carvacrol) in oregano oil in dilutions as low as 1/50,000 destroys Candida albicans, the Aspergillus mold, Staphylococcus, Campylobacter, Klebsiella, E.coli, Giardia, Pseudomonas, and Proteus. Another phenol constituent, thymol, boosts the immune system. These compounds also act as free radical scavengers (shield against toxins) thus preventing further tissue damage while encouraging healing. Oil of oregano is antiviral, antibacterial, antifungal, and antiparasitic. It also has strong antioxidant and anti-inflammatory effects and is an ideal product to use for people who suffer from CFS and/or fibromyalgia. This is not regular oregano, but a wild form (wild mountain oregano, vulgare species) of the spice, which has, until recently, not been available in Canada. Do not use a substitute or oregano from a grocery store because it will have no effect. oil of oregano natural herbal supplement offers a variety of remedies
--Caesar J. B. Squitti : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 22:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
There are always several symptoms that claims for miraculous properties for herbs and their essential oils have been borrowed from a popular aromatherapy 'novel', or have been posted by a supplier: Claims to cure controversial syndromes like CFS or fybromyalgia. Claims to be antiviral. Claims to be a 'free redical scavenger', to be 'antioxidant', or to boost the immune system. The above contribution sadly scores on all counts, and the reference is simply to an over-enthusiastic supplier of complementary remedies... Cjsunbird ( talk) 17:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
So some text will return. Telecine Guy ( talk) 06:55, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
The title in a section of this article is 'Cultivation and Uses', yet there is no mention of cultivation whatsoever. This whole section purely discusses its uses. Could someone please add information as to oregano's cultivation. Good examples of cultivation sections (in my opinion) can be seen in the basil and parsley articles (and no i didn't write them).
--Purns —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.23.130.14 ( talk) 05:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
The Oil with the long tradition of medicinal benefits and a supreme natural disinfectant is distilled from a "wild oregano" and is not the oregano available in stores, which is either marjoram or a Mexican substitute for oregano. Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).: C. Ingram, The Cure Is In The Cupboard, 1997 Knowledge House, ILL 60089.
66.251.102.206 (
talk)
17:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC) R Schep.
Oregano oil redirects to this page, but then the page mentions nothing about it. I came here to check if Oregano Oil is just more marketing propaganda or if there is any science behind it. At the very least it should mention that Oregano Oil is sold for its supposed health benefits (Amazon has 400+ Oregano Oil products).
-- Karuna8 ( talk) 17:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Please see my comments above about Oregano as a medicinal herb...
Cjsunbird (
talk)
17:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
The health benefits paragraph needs a complete rewrite, and a LOT more sources. I'm half tempted to throw a citation needed after every claim in that paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.37.244.137 ( talk) 21:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
There is no mention of toxicity whatsoever in the article. Other sources appear to suggest there may be hepatic toxicity when using a concentrated product such as oregano oil, and that it may also have potent sedative effects. It also may irritate skin, or make skin more photosensible allowing the sun to damage the skin more easily. It may also decrease the milk supply of nursing mothers. 66.11.179.30 ( talk) 16:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Marjoram oils should perhaps be used with caution, as should all concentrated essential oils, but they are all relatively safe and not indicated to cause photo-sensitivity. Hepatic toxicity should not be a problem if an oil is restricted to external use...
Cjsunbird (
talk)
17:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Thymus vulgaris and this one....???? The question is raised due to the fact that both of them share the prefix of vulgar- in their names -- 222.64.209.200 ( talk) 06:24, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
I salvaged this code from Origanum, it uses an obsolete taxonomy and should be in the present article. Someone might format it cleanly (it is horrible now, makes the article a mess to edit) and insert a discussion in the above section:
Dysmorodrepanis (
talk)
21:36, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Don't you think there should be a section on how to grow it, like the optimal soil conditions, etc?-- 66.176.187.104 ( talk) 17:32, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I removed
[1] the complete rewrite of the last paragraph of the "Medicinal" section because it removed sources and sourced information, and instead highlighted
Preuss, HG (2005 Apr). "Minimum inhibitory concentrations of herbal essential oils and monolaurin for gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria". Molecular and cellular biochemistry. 272 (1–2): 29–34.
PMID
16010969. {{
cite journal}}
: Check date values in: |date=
(
help); Unknown parameter |coauthors=
ignored (|author=
suggested) (
help) --
Ronz (
talk)
18:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Oregano is not just Origanum vulgare. If you have an article called Oregano, it needs to include all the other species known by that name. Oregano is a common name - and thus has no 'official' species designation. Whoever calls a plant oregano (well within traditions) is therefor equally correct - so this article needs to be rewritten to include all the other species equally. They are sort of mentioned but not equally, and many are missing.
Or move the article to the species O. vulgare. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.202.24.164 ( talk) 17:30, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
How to preserve? How long do fresh leaves last? Refrigeration? How to dry? Best storage of dried form? Freezing? Preserve in oil? - 96.233.20.34 ( talk) 14:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Zefr,
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources_%28medicine%29
"Speculative proposals and early-stage research should not be cited to imply wide acceptance. For example, results of an early-stage clinical trial would not be appropriate in the Treatment section on a disease because future treatments have little bearing on current practice. The results might – in some cases – be appropriate for inclusion in an article specifically dedicated to the treatment in question or to the researchers or businesses involved in it. Such information, particularly when citing secondary sources, may be appropriate in research sections of disease articles. To prevent misunderstanding, the text should clearly identify the level of research cited (e.g., "first-in-human safety testing").
In this case, I haven't over stated this research, just indicated it is existing and occurring. I should think this is an interesting thing for people to read who are interested in oregano. This does not represent medical advice, only information out there in the public sphere which communicates a possible treatment for something that we should ALL be concerned about.
Probrooks ( talk) 18:24, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
ok.... you haven't added any citations under anti-bacterial agent. I think it would be worth going into more detail including mentioning MRSA.
Probrooks ( talk) 21:13, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Probrooks ( talk) 20:35, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Im sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:4FC8:6D8:534:B279:F82C:8258 ( talk) 21:46, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Rant from now-blocked user. |
---|
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
Why don't you just indicate the italian pronunciation, which happens to be [oˈʁeːganoː]? It would also be a good chance for you lot to exercise the 2 vowel sounds you have lost after the Great Vowel Shift (GVS), namely [eː] and [oː]. So 'shifted' according to the GVS logic, they would become [iː] and [uː] - doh! For more insight, read the (usually) last comment (penned by Yours truly) on /info/en/?search=Talk:Great_Vowel_Shift Contorista ( talk) 08:54, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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