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Does anyone have the raw data and a data analysis file in something like R? Some of these points look really weird and I can’t tell if the problem is the data or the analysis.
Maybe the points have been Winsorized or truncated somehow? Closed Limelike Curves ( talk) 18:20, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
I see; do you have a copy of the spreadsheet?
The reason I think it looks weird is that all the numbers look almost like they’re drawn from a uniform distribution, which doesn’t make any sense… Closed Limelike Curves ( talk) 20:09, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
There’s a few possibilities here: 1. Fraud—some of these polls were completely fabricated. This isn’t as uncommon as you’d think, which is why you have to make sure to stick to regular pollsters. 2. Extreme pollster herding; it’s possible that Italian pollsters are just unwilling to stick their necks out, so they suppress or reweight outliers to be more in line with consensus. While possible, this would have to be the most extreme case of herding I have ever seen, suggesting a lack of ethics (like suppression of polls) rather than just overly-aggressive weighting. 3. Misinterpreting sources—maybe some of these “Polls” aren’t polls, they’re moving averages or model-based regression lines.
It could also be something else I’m not thinking of. Closed Limelike Curves ( talk) 16:32, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Should a column for Italian Sovrana e Popolare (ISP) be added? Its voting intentions are currently being estimated by two pollsters (BiDiMedia and Termometro Politico) around 1.0 - 1.7 %. The levels are similar to those of IC and UP, which are included in the table. Tomjoad82 ( talk) 08:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Can the IP explain how this is done for "political motives" when it is only for readability purposes and all polls are still there and easy to access with just a click? From mobile, they are not collapsed at all and it is very frustrating. Also who are those "bad actors" and "paid political actors"? For someone pretending to be an admin and claiming to know the "regs", they sure do not seem to know rules like WP:NOPERSONALATTACKS, WP:EDITWARRING, and WP:CONSENSUS. Davide King ( talk) 21:00, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
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Just looked at this page for the first time and noticed that someone has hidden polls done before August 5th, this isn't allowed as all polls in 2022 must be visible and NOT collapsed by default. Apparently someone is vandalizing the entry by repeatedly hiding those polls. 84.222.57.48 ( talk) 21:11, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
There are more polling aggregations that should be added such as, Simulatore Elezioni GEHSC Free Weed. CHRpedia ( talk) 13:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
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Does anyone have the raw data and a data analysis file in something like R? Some of these points look really weird and I can’t tell if the problem is the data or the analysis.
Maybe the points have been Winsorized or truncated somehow? Closed Limelike Curves ( talk) 18:20, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
I see; do you have a copy of the spreadsheet?
The reason I think it looks weird is that all the numbers look almost like they’re drawn from a uniform distribution, which doesn’t make any sense… Closed Limelike Curves ( talk) 20:09, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
There’s a few possibilities here: 1. Fraud—some of these polls were completely fabricated. This isn’t as uncommon as you’d think, which is why you have to make sure to stick to regular pollsters. 2. Extreme pollster herding; it’s possible that Italian pollsters are just unwilling to stick their necks out, so they suppress or reweight outliers to be more in line with consensus. While possible, this would have to be the most extreme case of herding I have ever seen, suggesting a lack of ethics (like suppression of polls) rather than just overly-aggressive weighting. 3. Misinterpreting sources—maybe some of these “Polls” aren’t polls, they’re moving averages or model-based regression lines.
It could also be something else I’m not thinking of. Closed Limelike Curves ( talk) 16:32, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Should a column for Italian Sovrana e Popolare (ISP) be added? Its voting intentions are currently being estimated by two pollsters (BiDiMedia and Termometro Politico) around 1.0 - 1.7 %. The levels are similar to those of IC and UP, which are included in the table. Tomjoad82 ( talk) 08:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Can the IP explain how this is done for "political motives" when it is only for readability purposes and all polls are still there and easy to access with just a click? From mobile, they are not collapsed at all and it is very frustrating. Also who are those "bad actors" and "paid political actors"? For someone pretending to be an admin and claiming to know the "regs", they sure do not seem to know rules like WP:NOPERSONALATTACKS, WP:EDITWARRING, and WP:CONSENSUS. Davide King ( talk) 21:00, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
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Just looked at this page for the first time and noticed that someone has hidden polls done before August 5th, this isn't allowed as all polls in 2022 must be visible and NOT collapsed by default. Apparently someone is vandalizing the entry by repeatedly hiding those polls. 84.222.57.48 ( talk) 21:11, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
There are more polling aggregations that should be added such as, Simulatore Elezioni GEHSC Free Weed. CHRpedia ( talk) 13:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)