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No bases visited, no vets interviewed for Pentagon probe into dioxin in Okinawa' BY JON MITCHELL June 4, 2013 http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2013/06/04/issues/as-evidence-of-agent-orange-in-okinawa-stacks-up-u-s-sticks-with-blanket-denial/#.UbHfe9LCZ8F
PCP spill dead fish, water contamination young report Hand spraying of Japanese crops
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/AppendixA.htm
http://www.madracki.com/usarmyhawk/history.html (double check that this is the best link for missile references) http://www.tacmissileers.org/ http://www.mace-b.com/38TMW/Kadena/kadena.htm http://www.smecc.org/nike_sites1.htm
I've added sub-sections for areas that address a particular sub-part of the Young report released in March 2013. Other allegations attributed to Veteran's by Young were already discussed previously in the entry as well as where they actually came from. The sources of these "allegations" were documents from CMA, Fort Detrick, DVA (numerous), in addition to photos, news articles of what a vet alleged was unknown about the nature of these chemicals. Other "allegations" Young cites maybe further addressed as needed and as time allows. The claims of herbicide use, storage, exposure, contamination, chemicals, were not specific to Orange unless from an official source (CMA, DVA, photo,). To an extent, media focused on Onange and Young focused on Media. The Young report, "accusations," investigation, and denial is very specific to herbicide Orange. The following is a SUMMARY provided by Young. The full report is linked at the top of this page. Summary of allegations and findings: 2012-2013 HERBICIDE ORANGE INVESTIGATIONJohnvr4 (talk) 13:26, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
"Herbicide Orange and other tactical herbicides were tested and evaluated in the jungle areas of Okinawa in 1961-1962. There were no records or correspondence that indicated any testing and evaluation of Herbicide Orange in Okinawa. Herbicide Orange was tested in South Vietnam, not Okinawa, as part of Project AGILE. Additionally, Herbicide Orange was not used in Vietnam until 1965."
Something was tested on Okinawa. What was being tested has not been officially disclosed. Young says there are no records of Herbicide Orange being tested there but does not say what was tested. Herbicide purple and pink, prior to 1961-1965 deposited the majority of the total dioxin sprayed in Vietnam.
"Beginning in 1962 in Project AGILE, Herbicide Orange and other tactical herbicides were shipped to or through, unloaded on or used in Okinawa by the DoD during the Vietnam War. The merchant marine ship SS Schuyler Otis Bland (T-AK277) transported Agent Orange from the US to Okinawa in the early 1960’s. The log books and shipping documents required for shipping herbicides show that Herbicides Pink and Purple were transported directly from San Francisco to Vietnam on the SS Bland in Dec. 1961, arriving in Vietnam on Jan. 16, 1962 and were subsequently completely offloaded in Vietnam. The SS Bland later arrived in Naha, Okinawa with a cargo of shipping containers and petroleum products on Jan. 31, 1962. There is nothing in the records to support an allegation that the ship’s logbook shows that the SS Bland returned to Okinawa and unloaded a classified cargo under armed guard at White Beach on Apr. 25, 1962. Additionally, Herbicide Orange was not used in Vietnam until 1965."
The ships log was found in the Military Sealift Command records and inspected by Michelle Gatz who took detailed notes and made some copies. The log was then moved to NARA where Young accessed it. It is assumed that nothing with the log has changed but that has not been confirmed. There was never an allegation that this shipment was Orange (except by Young himself). Only Herbicides purple and pink were noted in the log.
"That the Port of Naha, the adjacent US Army’s Machinato Supply Depot (now Makiminato Service Area, part of the US Marine Corps Camp Kinser, bordering Urasoe City), and Kadena Air Base were used to receive and store large quantities of Herbicide Orange for subsequent shipment “on merchant ships such as the USS Comet, SS Sea-Lift and the SS Transglobe” or by air transport to Vietnam during the Vietnam war. There were no records found that authorized the shipment of tactical herbicides by these three ships. These types of ships were unsuitable for transporting the types of heavy barrels that herbicides were shipped in. Source records show that tactical herbicides shipped to Vietnam were transported under the highest priority of shipment; thus they would not have been delayed by unnecessary stops, unloading/transporting or storage. Tactical herbicides were shipped to Vietnam on ships, not sent by air."
These ships transported chemicals to Johnston Atoll for Operation Red Hat and brought retrograde chemicals in drums an containers back to Okinawa and the U.S. from Vietnam. They were sufficiently suited for that purpose. The first load of herbicides to Vietnam was brought by air because they were the highest priority and could not wait for a ship. That is indisputable documented history. The cargo of the S. Otis Bland was also considered for similar air transport.(source linked in article) Whether some portion of the second shipment was actually transported by air or not is unclear.
"That shipments of the remaining surplus inventory of “25,000 barrels” of Herbicide Orange from Vietnam were sent to Okinawa prior to shipment to Johnston Island in 1972 during Operation RED HAT. Herbicide Orange was shipped directly from Vietnam to Johnson Island as part of Operation PACER IVY, not Operation RED HAT. Operation RED HAT occurred in 1971 and involved the removal of nerve gas from Okinawa to Johnston Island. Regarding the 2003 report “An Ecological Assessment of Johnston Atoll,” the report’s statement about storage of Herbicide Orange in Okinawa is inaccurate and does not reflect the facts as known to the Army or to the U.S. Government. The report was an independently prepared report funded by the U.S. Army that evaluated the ecological conditions and impacts on Johnson Atoll from military activity. The report was never intended to document the history of Herbicide Orange."
An Ecological Assessment of Johnston Atoll notes a clear distinction between Operation Red Hat in 1971 and the Agent Orange Operation in 1972. An Ecological Assessment of Johnston Atoll was authored by a government contractor scientist like Dr. young himself. The authors of the report were scientists documenting the Environmental effects of dioxin at Johnston Atoll. Their findings were contrary to Young's findings that there was no major dioxin problem at Johnston Atoll. One scientist was from the Smithsonian which had conducted similar studies for the Army at Johnson Atoll and the island was an actual Project 112 site as were previous sites of Young's focus such as Range C52A at Eglin AFB which was used for Defoliation tests. During Project SHAD's "Shady Grove/Red BEVA" test both Johnston Atoll and Eglin were part of this test (PS the biological agents were mixed in an inflatable building on Johnston). http://mcm.fhpr.osd.mil/Libraries/CBexposuresDocs/shady_grove_revised.sflb.ashx
"That large quantities of Herbicide Orange were buried “in and around Chatan Town at Hamby Air Field,” and/or “buried at White Beach near the Machinato Supply Depot (Service Area),” and/or “buried near the Futenma Air Station near the city of Ginowan.” There was no evidence that Herbicide Orange had been found or buried on the MSA shoreline or any mention of pesticides, Herbicide Orange, dioxin, or PCBs in the cleanup operations near the Futenma Air Station."
Discussed in article
"That an American Cargo Ship was stranded on a reef near Naha and drums of Herbicide Orange were recovered and subsequently buried on Okinawa. There is no historical evidence of drums, Agent Orange, or the description of “other cargo” noted in either the history of the LST-600 or the USS Current. USNS LST 600 went aground at Kanno Se Reef near Naha on Dec. 22, 1968 and was refloated on 17 January 1969. The USS Current arrived on Christmas Day to off load cargo from the LST 600. The barrels offloaded were petroleum products. Additionally, the last shipment of Herbicide Orange to Vietnam was in May 1968."
The history of the salvage of LST-600 by USS Current that Young is referring to states that fuel and cargo were offloaded during the salvage operation without saying what was unloaded or what was done with it. There are the reports of a ship on a reef in the late 60s; barrels buried on a beach together with a hand drawn map by a vet; drums and waste unearthed in Chatan/Hamby which was only in local news and only in the Japanese language; U.S. denied any association to the uncovered waste. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2011/08/13/news/agent-orange-buried-on-okinawa-vet-says/#.UYpn1aLCZ8F The burial spot on the map drawn by the vet did not perfectly match the spot of the unearthed drums in relation to the shoreline. In 2011, the LST-600 was identified (by John Olin) as the ship on the reef in 1968-69. When aerial photos and an old map was compared to a new map of the area it was learned that the shoreline had been previously filled in to reclaim land. When the vets map was compared to an old map of the shoreline, the reported burial site drawn by the vet matched the location of the actual unearthed waste almost perfectly. http://www.japanfocus.org/-Jon-Mitchell/3659 The records of the ship on the reef were also confirmed with a historical record and photos of the salvage operation. http://www.usscurrent.com/usscurrent/index.htm There is no laboratory analysis of what was uncovered except oily, tar-like substance description. The Japanese paid for the clean up of the site in excess of one million USD.
"That numerous US Vietnam-era veterans stationed in Okinawa handled and sprayed Herbicide Orange, or were witnesses to it being sprayed by a C-123. Moreover, some veterans claimed that they cleaned the contaminated aircraft at Kadena Air Base. No evidence was found that validated this claim. However, approved insecticides, not herbicides, were sprayed in Okinawa. Repairs of the RANCH HAND UC-123-B and K models were conducted in Taipei, not Okinawa."
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Morale pin issued to Operation Red Hat participants in 1971
I'd like to know what the 2-3-4 means. The veteran who provided the photo did not remember. Johnvr4 ( talk) 16:26, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
I have a number of concerns about the article:
Crossposted at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Operation_Red_Hat. GabrielF ( talk) 15:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
I propose a cleanup of the article instead of deletion if Johnvr4 is willing to agree to it. It is quite a large article as I have seen it grow in length. Can there be some compromise in what information can be taken out or re-worded? Adamdaley ( talk) 01:07, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Johnvr4 ( talk) 16:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Interestingly, Washington Irving's character Rip Van Winkle awakens from his long sleep in his now strange and incomprehensible post-revolutionary, war-torn village, and one of the first things he sees is something that looks like a red night cap on top of a tall naked pole and an unfamiliar flag with an assemblage of stars and stripes
PLEASE QUIT REVERTING AND DELETING CONTENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED ON THIS PAGE OR HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SUBJECT. such as the 267th Chemical company. THE VERSION TO WHICH THE ARTICLE KEEPS BEING REVERTED HAD NO DISCUSSION OR CONSENSUS PRIOR TO THE DELETION AND NEITHER DID THE LAST REVERSION. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO EDIT THE AREAS OF CONCERN IF IT KEEPS GETTING REVERTED TO SOME EDITORS MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE SUBJECT. TALK ABOUT YOUR PROPOSED CHANGE BEFORE A DELETION AND THEN CHANGE IT LONG AFTER IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. Johnvr4 ( talk) 13:38, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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I do not believe this article should be merged, as it is a separate, distinct U.S. military operation which deserves it's own page, in line with many other U.S. military operations (eg. see all those in Category:Military operations involving the United States). Buckshot06 (talk) 16:38, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
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I have moved the summary text in this article to Japan and weapons of mass destruction # U.S. chemical weapons and Japan. I will replace the article with material I have redeveloped in my sandbox. Johnvr4 ( talk) 14:53, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
This article is missing the complete page history and appears to contains text attributed to me which I did not submit. The specific text (regarding Night Moves of Chemicals) was falsely used as justification for a previous AfD. It was userfied at User:JohnVR4/Operation Red Hat and the complete Page history was deleted recently by Buckshot06. The userfying editor Buckshot06 reinserted that same text among other issues into this mainspace article and it needs to be corrected. Preserving the pages history is one of our five pillars WP:5P5 where every past version of a page is saved. Johnvr4 ( talk) 17:26, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
I feel this article fails WP:NPOV because it does not explore the majority and minority viewpoints in each cited source. I feel this article has profound POV issues because it in too condensed, hopelessly incomplete. It is basically a summary of a more complete article that that Buckshot recently nominated for deltion by presenting untruths in those discussions. In addition near copy of this article (Nearly the entire contents of which is only a summary article anyway) already exists at Japan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#U.S._chemical_weapons_and_Japan. Johnvr4 ( talk) 17:26, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
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No bases visited, no vets interviewed for Pentagon probe into dioxin in Okinawa' BY JON MITCHELL June 4, 2013 http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2013/06/04/issues/as-evidence-of-agent-orange-in-okinawa-stacks-up-u-s-sticks-with-blanket-denial/#.UbHfe9LCZ8F
PCP spill dead fish, water contamination young report Hand spraying of Japanese crops
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/AppendixA.htm
http://www.madracki.com/usarmyhawk/history.html (double check that this is the best link for missile references) http://www.tacmissileers.org/ http://www.mace-b.com/38TMW/Kadena/kadena.htm http://www.smecc.org/nike_sites1.htm
I've added sub-sections for areas that address a particular sub-part of the Young report released in March 2013. Other allegations attributed to Veteran's by Young were already discussed previously in the entry as well as where they actually came from. The sources of these "allegations" were documents from CMA, Fort Detrick, DVA (numerous), in addition to photos, news articles of what a vet alleged was unknown about the nature of these chemicals. Other "allegations" Young cites maybe further addressed as needed and as time allows. The claims of herbicide use, storage, exposure, contamination, chemicals, were not specific to Orange unless from an official source (CMA, DVA, photo,). To an extent, media focused on Onange and Young focused on Media. The Young report, "accusations," investigation, and denial is very specific to herbicide Orange. The following is a SUMMARY provided by Young. The full report is linked at the top of this page. Summary of allegations and findings: 2012-2013 HERBICIDE ORANGE INVESTIGATIONJohnvr4 (talk) 13:26, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
"Herbicide Orange and other tactical herbicides were tested and evaluated in the jungle areas of Okinawa in 1961-1962. There were no records or correspondence that indicated any testing and evaluation of Herbicide Orange in Okinawa. Herbicide Orange was tested in South Vietnam, not Okinawa, as part of Project AGILE. Additionally, Herbicide Orange was not used in Vietnam until 1965."
Something was tested on Okinawa. What was being tested has not been officially disclosed. Young says there are no records of Herbicide Orange being tested there but does not say what was tested. Herbicide purple and pink, prior to 1961-1965 deposited the majority of the total dioxin sprayed in Vietnam.
"Beginning in 1962 in Project AGILE, Herbicide Orange and other tactical herbicides were shipped to or through, unloaded on or used in Okinawa by the DoD during the Vietnam War. The merchant marine ship SS Schuyler Otis Bland (T-AK277) transported Agent Orange from the US to Okinawa in the early 1960’s. The log books and shipping documents required for shipping herbicides show that Herbicides Pink and Purple were transported directly from San Francisco to Vietnam on the SS Bland in Dec. 1961, arriving in Vietnam on Jan. 16, 1962 and were subsequently completely offloaded in Vietnam. The SS Bland later arrived in Naha, Okinawa with a cargo of shipping containers and petroleum products on Jan. 31, 1962. There is nothing in the records to support an allegation that the ship’s logbook shows that the SS Bland returned to Okinawa and unloaded a classified cargo under armed guard at White Beach on Apr. 25, 1962. Additionally, Herbicide Orange was not used in Vietnam until 1965."
The ships log was found in the Military Sealift Command records and inspected by Michelle Gatz who took detailed notes and made some copies. The log was then moved to NARA where Young accessed it. It is assumed that nothing with the log has changed but that has not been confirmed. There was never an allegation that this shipment was Orange (except by Young himself). Only Herbicides purple and pink were noted in the log.
"That the Port of Naha, the adjacent US Army’s Machinato Supply Depot (now Makiminato Service Area, part of the US Marine Corps Camp Kinser, bordering Urasoe City), and Kadena Air Base were used to receive and store large quantities of Herbicide Orange for subsequent shipment “on merchant ships such as the USS Comet, SS Sea-Lift and the SS Transglobe” or by air transport to Vietnam during the Vietnam war. There were no records found that authorized the shipment of tactical herbicides by these three ships. These types of ships were unsuitable for transporting the types of heavy barrels that herbicides were shipped in. Source records show that tactical herbicides shipped to Vietnam were transported under the highest priority of shipment; thus they would not have been delayed by unnecessary stops, unloading/transporting or storage. Tactical herbicides were shipped to Vietnam on ships, not sent by air."
These ships transported chemicals to Johnston Atoll for Operation Red Hat and brought retrograde chemicals in drums an containers back to Okinawa and the U.S. from Vietnam. They were sufficiently suited for that purpose. The first load of herbicides to Vietnam was brought by air because they were the highest priority and could not wait for a ship. That is indisputable documented history. The cargo of the S. Otis Bland was also considered for similar air transport.(source linked in article) Whether some portion of the second shipment was actually transported by air or not is unclear.
"That shipments of the remaining surplus inventory of “25,000 barrels” of Herbicide Orange from Vietnam were sent to Okinawa prior to shipment to Johnston Island in 1972 during Operation RED HAT. Herbicide Orange was shipped directly from Vietnam to Johnson Island as part of Operation PACER IVY, not Operation RED HAT. Operation RED HAT occurred in 1971 and involved the removal of nerve gas from Okinawa to Johnston Island. Regarding the 2003 report “An Ecological Assessment of Johnston Atoll,” the report’s statement about storage of Herbicide Orange in Okinawa is inaccurate and does not reflect the facts as known to the Army or to the U.S. Government. The report was an independently prepared report funded by the U.S. Army that evaluated the ecological conditions and impacts on Johnson Atoll from military activity. The report was never intended to document the history of Herbicide Orange."
An Ecological Assessment of Johnston Atoll notes a clear distinction between Operation Red Hat in 1971 and the Agent Orange Operation in 1972. An Ecological Assessment of Johnston Atoll was authored by a government contractor scientist like Dr. young himself. The authors of the report were scientists documenting the Environmental effects of dioxin at Johnston Atoll. Their findings were contrary to Young's findings that there was no major dioxin problem at Johnston Atoll. One scientist was from the Smithsonian which had conducted similar studies for the Army at Johnson Atoll and the island was an actual Project 112 site as were previous sites of Young's focus such as Range C52A at Eglin AFB which was used for Defoliation tests. During Project SHAD's "Shady Grove/Red BEVA" test both Johnston Atoll and Eglin were part of this test (PS the biological agents were mixed in an inflatable building on Johnston). http://mcm.fhpr.osd.mil/Libraries/CBexposuresDocs/shady_grove_revised.sflb.ashx
"That large quantities of Herbicide Orange were buried “in and around Chatan Town at Hamby Air Field,” and/or “buried at White Beach near the Machinato Supply Depot (Service Area),” and/or “buried near the Futenma Air Station near the city of Ginowan.” There was no evidence that Herbicide Orange had been found or buried on the MSA shoreline or any mention of pesticides, Herbicide Orange, dioxin, or PCBs in the cleanup operations near the Futenma Air Station."
Discussed in article
"That an American Cargo Ship was stranded on a reef near Naha and drums of Herbicide Orange were recovered and subsequently buried on Okinawa. There is no historical evidence of drums, Agent Orange, or the description of “other cargo” noted in either the history of the LST-600 or the USS Current. USNS LST 600 went aground at Kanno Se Reef near Naha on Dec. 22, 1968 and was refloated on 17 January 1969. The USS Current arrived on Christmas Day to off load cargo from the LST 600. The barrels offloaded were petroleum products. Additionally, the last shipment of Herbicide Orange to Vietnam was in May 1968."
The history of the salvage of LST-600 by USS Current that Young is referring to states that fuel and cargo were offloaded during the salvage operation without saying what was unloaded or what was done with it. There are the reports of a ship on a reef in the late 60s; barrels buried on a beach together with a hand drawn map by a vet; drums and waste unearthed in Chatan/Hamby which was only in local news and only in the Japanese language; U.S. denied any association to the uncovered waste. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2011/08/13/news/agent-orange-buried-on-okinawa-vet-says/#.UYpn1aLCZ8F The burial spot on the map drawn by the vet did not perfectly match the spot of the unearthed drums in relation to the shoreline. In 2011, the LST-600 was identified (by John Olin) as the ship on the reef in 1968-69. When aerial photos and an old map was compared to a new map of the area it was learned that the shoreline had been previously filled in to reclaim land. When the vets map was compared to an old map of the shoreline, the reported burial site drawn by the vet matched the location of the actual unearthed waste almost perfectly. http://www.japanfocus.org/-Jon-Mitchell/3659 The records of the ship on the reef were also confirmed with a historical record and photos of the salvage operation. http://www.usscurrent.com/usscurrent/index.htm There is no laboratory analysis of what was uncovered except oily, tar-like substance description. The Japanese paid for the clean up of the site in excess of one million USD.
"That numerous US Vietnam-era veterans stationed in Okinawa handled and sprayed Herbicide Orange, or were witnesses to it being sprayed by a C-123. Moreover, some veterans claimed that they cleaned the contaminated aircraft at Kadena Air Base. No evidence was found that validated this claim. However, approved insecticides, not herbicides, were sprayed in Okinawa. Repairs of the RANCH HAND UC-123-B and K models were conducted in Taipei, not Okinawa."
Discussed in article.
Morale pin issued to Operation Red Hat participants in 1971
I'd like to know what the 2-3-4 means. The veteran who provided the photo did not remember. Johnvr4 ( talk) 16:26, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
I have a number of concerns about the article:
Crossposted at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Operation_Red_Hat. GabrielF ( talk) 15:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
I propose a cleanup of the article instead of deletion if Johnvr4 is willing to agree to it. It is quite a large article as I have seen it grow in length. Can there be some compromise in what information can be taken out or re-worded? Adamdaley ( talk) 01:07, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Johnvr4 ( talk) 16:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Interestingly, Washington Irving's character Rip Van Winkle awakens from his long sleep in his now strange and incomprehensible post-revolutionary, war-torn village, and one of the first things he sees is something that looks like a red night cap on top of a tall naked pole and an unfamiliar flag with an assemblage of stars and stripes
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I do not believe this article should be merged, as it is a separate, distinct U.S. military operation which deserves it's own page, in line with many other U.S. military operations (eg. see all those in Category:Military operations involving the United States). Buckshot06 (talk) 16:38, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
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I have moved the summary text in this article to Japan and weapons of mass destruction # U.S. chemical weapons and Japan. I will replace the article with material I have redeveloped in my sandbox. Johnvr4 ( talk) 14:53, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
This article is missing the complete page history and appears to contains text attributed to me which I did not submit. The specific text (regarding Night Moves of Chemicals) was falsely used as justification for a previous AfD. It was userfied at User:JohnVR4/Operation Red Hat and the complete Page history was deleted recently by Buckshot06. The userfying editor Buckshot06 reinserted that same text among other issues into this mainspace article and it needs to be corrected. Preserving the pages history is one of our five pillars WP:5P5 where every past version of a page is saved. Johnvr4 ( talk) 17:26, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
I feel this article fails WP:NPOV because it does not explore the majority and minority viewpoints in each cited source. I feel this article has profound POV issues because it in too condensed, hopelessly incomplete. It is basically a summary of a more complete article that that Buckshot recently nominated for deltion by presenting untruths in those discussions. In addition near copy of this article (Nearly the entire contents of which is only a summary article anyway) already exists at Japan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#U.S._chemical_weapons_and_Japan. Johnvr4 ( talk) 17:26, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
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