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any evidence to support the claim that the NLA was supported by saddams troops via air? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.184.95 ( talk) 00:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
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@ Stefka Bulgaria: you removed a book as a source that is widely cited in academic literature (an indicator of reliability) and replaced it with a {{cn}} tag. This was probably a mistake, so please be more careful in the future. VR talk 13:44, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
@VR: can you please show the sources that treat these two operations as part of one single continuous battle? Stefka Bulgaria ( talk) 07:03, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
If we're going to treat this as a single event, we need to fix the lede and the body (and perhaps the title of the article as well). Right now the lede starts with the name of the counter-attack (Mersad) first, and then says the operation is "alternatively referred to as Operation Forough Javidan (Persian: عملیات فروغ جاویدان, lit. Operation Eternal Light, MeK's codename)"
, which is false. One is the attack (by the MEK), and the other is the counter-attack (by the IRI). The lede makes this even more confusing by placing the counter-attack before the attack. If we merge these two operations into the same article (as you claim sources do) then we need to follow a chronological sequence of events (starting with Operation Eternal Light); otherwise this becomes too confusing.
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any evidence to support the claim that the NLA was supported by saddams troops via air? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.184.95 ( talk) 00:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
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@ Stefka Bulgaria: you removed a book as a source that is widely cited in academic literature (an indicator of reliability) and replaced it with a {{cn}} tag. This was probably a mistake, so please be more careful in the future. VR talk 13:44, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
@VR: can you please show the sources that treat these two operations as part of one single continuous battle? Stefka Bulgaria ( talk) 07:03, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
If we're going to treat this as a single event, we need to fix the lede and the body (and perhaps the title of the article as well). Right now the lede starts with the name of the counter-attack (Mersad) first, and then says the operation is "alternatively referred to as Operation Forough Javidan (Persian: عملیات فروغ جاویدان, lit. Operation Eternal Light, MeK's codename)"
, which is false. One is the attack (by the MEK), and the other is the counter-attack (by the IRI). The lede makes this even more confusing by placing the counter-attack before the attack. If we merge these two operations into the same article (as you claim sources do) then we need to follow a chronological sequence of events (starting with Operation Eternal Light); otherwise this becomes too confusing.
Stefka Bulgaria (
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13:07, 29 August 2021 (UTC)