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Oppose. This seems almost an
WP:OVERLINK as a commonly-understood term. The more commonly-used term is Open casket funeral which leads in
pageviews by about ten-to-one – and is evenly matched with the painting Open Casket so there is no clear primary topic based on views. If Open casket funeral is indeed a topic of greater long-term significance then it should be tagged {{R with possibilities}} to encourage someone to get on with covering the topic. How and when did the practice start? Who most commonly does this, and where? Is there any controversy over it? etc. etc. Meanwhile Open casket funeral is a section link awkwardly dumping readers into the middle of the
funeral article at
Funeral § Visitation which is a subsection of §North American funerals (you mean to tell me that "visitation" is practiced nowhere else other than North America?) — Views of
funeral dominate "open casket" by a
10-to-1 margin so awkwardly stuffing a hatnote into a section where the term isn't prominently discussed is something that annoys me. And is "funeral" really primary topic over "open
coffin"?
wbm1058 (
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13:32, 14 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment. I'll grant that the funerary meaning of this term is a "primary topic" but that PT is still ambiguous. Redirect to
funeral or
coffin, which are broader concepts within both of which the PT is in scope, or the more specific article
Viewing (funeral), which I added to the dab as a "see also" item. –
wbm1058 (
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18:29, 14 January 2023 (UTC)reply
My impression is that "open casket" is a colloquial phrase that refers to
Funeral#Visitation, which is the target of the "open casket funeral" redirect. That section of that article explicitly describes the term "open casket", placing it in quotes. Even if that material should be somewhat rewritten to improve it, that article is where this topic is discussed. I don't think that phrase is ordinarily used to refer to just any
coffin that is open. The
coffin article does not contain the term "open casket". Indeed it does not even contain the word "open". So that article fails the
WP:DABMENTION test for "open casket". —
BarrelProof (
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19:33, 14 January 2023 (UTC)reply
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Oppose. This seems almost an
WP:OVERLINK as a commonly-understood term. The more commonly-used term is Open casket funeral which leads in
pageviews by about ten-to-one – and is evenly matched with the painting Open Casket so there is no clear primary topic based on views. If Open casket funeral is indeed a topic of greater long-term significance then it should be tagged {{R with possibilities}} to encourage someone to get on with covering the topic. How and when did the practice start? Who most commonly does this, and where? Is there any controversy over it? etc. etc. Meanwhile Open casket funeral is a section link awkwardly dumping readers into the middle of the
funeral article at
Funeral § Visitation which is a subsection of §North American funerals (you mean to tell me that "visitation" is practiced nowhere else other than North America?) — Views of
funeral dominate "open casket" by a
10-to-1 margin so awkwardly stuffing a hatnote into a section where the term isn't prominently discussed is something that annoys me. And is "funeral" really primary topic over "open
coffin"?
wbm1058 (
talk)
13:32, 14 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment. I'll grant that the funerary meaning of this term is a "primary topic" but that PT is still ambiguous. Redirect to
funeral or
coffin, which are broader concepts within both of which the PT is in scope, or the more specific article
Viewing (funeral), which I added to the dab as a "see also" item. –
wbm1058 (
talk)
18:29, 14 January 2023 (UTC)reply
My impression is that "open casket" is a colloquial phrase that refers to
Funeral#Visitation, which is the target of the "open casket funeral" redirect. That section of that article explicitly describes the term "open casket", placing it in quotes. Even if that material should be somewhat rewritten to improve it, that article is where this topic is discussed. I don't think that phrase is ordinarily used to refer to just any
coffin that is open. The
coffin article does not contain the term "open casket". Indeed it does not even contain the word "open". So that article fails the
WP:DABMENTION test for "open casket". —
BarrelProof (
talk)
19:33, 14 January 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.