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Given the overall and somewhat convoluted history of the OOo project (speaking generically about Apache OpenOffice, LibreOffice and their ancestor forks), the initial text of the article states, "OpenOffice.org (OOo), commonly known as OpenOffice, is a discontinued open-source office suite. It was an open-sourced version of the earlier StarOffice, which Sun Microsystems acquired in 1999, for internal use." Even with the disclaimer above that this project has been forked to Apache/OpenOffice, the description of both OOo and OpenOffice.org may mislead the casual reader into thinking the project, which is quite viable in both LibreOffice and Apache/OpenOffice is moribund.
I suggest this wording be changed to show that there are at least two viable forks being actively supported, so as to not lead the reader to the thought that the descendants of the StarOffice project are non-viable. The opening comment is technically accurate, but given the plethora of search engine returns on these forks when generic searches for openoffice.org show two contradictory returns.
For example: ixquick/startpage returns a bold right-sided frame displaying the old OOo logo and underneath, the wikipedia discription which reads "Discontinued free software office suite" Clickin on this prominent return calls up this wikipedia page. However, the actual search return as first result is Apache OpenOffice - Official Site - Free and Open Productivity . . . , which links to the Apache page showing that the software is clearly not discontinued.
I am very concerned that this wiki article is highly misleading in the overall context of web search engines, and will lead internet users astray. The fact is that Oracle did turn over OpenOffice to Apache, and Apache is using the OpenOffice.org domain, and this wiki is entitled OpenOffice.org. The present wording fails to recognize the organic nature of the activities with this highly useful and important software and may lead potential users into abandoning consideration of it.
I have no interest of any kind in either OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice except that I have been a heavy user, of the software in my personal practice on a variety of platforms including FreeBSD, Linux, OSX, Windows both personally and corporately. I do experience frustrations with some of the obtusities of extending them, which is how I came upon the wiki article and was surprised (to put it mildly) that the wiki popped up as "discontinued software" which is inaccurate in my opinion except from a highly narrow perspective which is at variance with the internet at large. If I hear no objections, I will make an edit change to the page to more accurately reflect the state of the project(s), unless of course, someone else beats me to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N81260 ( talk • contribs) 19:20, 3 June 2017 (UTC) N81260 ( talk) 19:26, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
@ David Gerard - Open Office is a mainstream product offered by one of the premiere open software development organizations. It is a gross mischaracterization to claim that it is "discontinued" when it is under *active* development. "In celebration of OpenOffice's triple anniversary this month —17 years as an Open Source project, 6 years at the ASF, and 5 years as an ASF Top-Level Project— the Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee also announced the immediate availability of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4". Apache does not agree with you that "it was discontinued and there's another site", and neither would any reasonable human being. I have no idea how you expect "discussion to come to consensus", but as a disinterested observer it is my opinion that you give both yourself and the Wikipedia process a bad name by reverting a clearly-needed change. The only reason I'm here is that Google searches prominently highlight Wikipedia articles, and after seeing such a ridiculously absurd introduction I had to see if it was for real. It apparently is, and it's your fault. Dava5 ( talk) 19:47, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi, there. I invite everyone to participate in the polite ongoing discussion. -- Entalpia2 ( talk) 14:44, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
The lede could do with rewriting for clarity and conciseness. For example, does so much information need to be given about the name of every software component. Also, the summary of the history could be one paragraph? Finally, my understanding is that LibreOffice was started before Apache OpenOffice; this is not apparent from the history in the lede. Jonpatterns ( talk) 08:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Money that i own the company 174.251.241.92 ( talk) 14:22, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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Given the overall and somewhat convoluted history of the OOo project (speaking generically about Apache OpenOffice, LibreOffice and their ancestor forks), the initial text of the article states, "OpenOffice.org (OOo), commonly known as OpenOffice, is a discontinued open-source office suite. It was an open-sourced version of the earlier StarOffice, which Sun Microsystems acquired in 1999, for internal use." Even with the disclaimer above that this project has been forked to Apache/OpenOffice, the description of both OOo and OpenOffice.org may mislead the casual reader into thinking the project, which is quite viable in both LibreOffice and Apache/OpenOffice is moribund.
I suggest this wording be changed to show that there are at least two viable forks being actively supported, so as to not lead the reader to the thought that the descendants of the StarOffice project are non-viable. The opening comment is technically accurate, but given the plethora of search engine returns on these forks when generic searches for openoffice.org show two contradictory returns.
For example: ixquick/startpage returns a bold right-sided frame displaying the old OOo logo and underneath, the wikipedia discription which reads "Discontinued free software office suite" Clickin on this prominent return calls up this wikipedia page. However, the actual search return as first result is Apache OpenOffice - Official Site - Free and Open Productivity . . . , which links to the Apache page showing that the software is clearly not discontinued.
I am very concerned that this wiki article is highly misleading in the overall context of web search engines, and will lead internet users astray. The fact is that Oracle did turn over OpenOffice to Apache, and Apache is using the OpenOffice.org domain, and this wiki is entitled OpenOffice.org. The present wording fails to recognize the organic nature of the activities with this highly useful and important software and may lead potential users into abandoning consideration of it.
I have no interest of any kind in either OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice except that I have been a heavy user, of the software in my personal practice on a variety of platforms including FreeBSD, Linux, OSX, Windows both personally and corporately. I do experience frustrations with some of the obtusities of extending them, which is how I came upon the wiki article and was surprised (to put it mildly) that the wiki popped up as "discontinued software" which is inaccurate in my opinion except from a highly narrow perspective which is at variance with the internet at large. If I hear no objections, I will make an edit change to the page to more accurately reflect the state of the project(s), unless of course, someone else beats me to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N81260 ( talk • contribs) 19:20, 3 June 2017 (UTC) N81260 ( talk) 19:26, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
@ David Gerard - Open Office is a mainstream product offered by one of the premiere open software development organizations. It is a gross mischaracterization to claim that it is "discontinued" when it is under *active* development. "In celebration of OpenOffice's triple anniversary this month —17 years as an Open Source project, 6 years at the ASF, and 5 years as an ASF Top-Level Project— the Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee also announced the immediate availability of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4". Apache does not agree with you that "it was discontinued and there's another site", and neither would any reasonable human being. I have no idea how you expect "discussion to come to consensus", but as a disinterested observer it is my opinion that you give both yourself and the Wikipedia process a bad name by reverting a clearly-needed change. The only reason I'm here is that Google searches prominently highlight Wikipedia articles, and after seeing such a ridiculously absurd introduction I had to see if it was for real. It apparently is, and it's your fault. Dava5 ( talk) 19:47, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi, there. I invite everyone to participate in the polite ongoing discussion. -- Entalpia2 ( talk) 14:44, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
The lede could do with rewriting for clarity and conciseness. For example, does so much information need to be given about the name of every software component. Also, the summary of the history could be one paragraph? Finally, my understanding is that LibreOffice was started before Apache OpenOffice; this is not apparent from the history in the lede. Jonpatterns ( talk) 08:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Money that i own the company 174.251.241.92 ( talk) 14:22, 4 January 2024 (UTC)