A fact from OneLove appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 December 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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... that OneLove(logo pictured) began as a Dutch campaign to encourage anti-discrimination in
football?
ALT1: ... that the Dutch OneLove campaign(logo pictured) inspired
football captains to wear rainbow armbands at the
2020 and
2022 European Championships?
Initial review. Timely article, providing historical context beyond the recent news cycle. Personally, I would recommend running the hook ASAP while the World Cup is still ongoing. On to the review: long enough, well sourced, Earwig says copyvio unlikely, neutral tone in describing controversies. May technically be two days late (DYK tool says 5x expansion began on November 23), but that is within the "one or two day" grace period per D9, and it looks like there were several mitigating factors including the involvement of multiple editors which caused the article to expand and contract significantly at least once, which is understandable given the currency of, and widespread interest in, the topic. The QPQ is done. The hooks are OK. Before I go ahead and tick "approve", I just wanted to ask
Kingsif if any hooks are possible mentioning the current World Cup? Also not a blocker to approval, but I might suggest mentioning within the article the
Germany team's "covered mouth" protest and the
story about the German supermarket pulling its sponsorship causing the German FA to replace their logo with OneLove instead; and possibly other sponsors (e.g. Lucozade) as well? Another side comment is that the bots will eventually flag the fact that there are 7 footnotes strung together at the end of the lede, so I would suggest cleaning that up somehow.
Cielquiparle (
talk)
13:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Cielquiparle: Thanks for the review! I have made some edits per your suggestions, though I didn't want to add too much about the current World Cup as there is already a lot about it at some more specific articles that are linked. I can suggest some World Cup-related hooks, but did (still do) wonder if they might be too "current" to be accepted, especially if running during the World Cup.
Kingsif (
talk)
15:10, 2 December 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Cielquiparle and
Kingsif: the first paragraph of the History section has a significant copy-paste from knvb.com. See
the earwig report. I know it says "violation unlikely", but if you read the full report, it's obvious it was copied. This needs to be fixed before it can be promoted. The other top items from Earwig are direct quotes which are appropriately attributed, so those are OK. If you want to get this to run before the World Cup is over, time is short. --
RoySmith(talk)20:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)reply
@
RoySmith: Thanks for flagging. Not sure how I missed that (something to do with translation bots maybe?), as I usually do check "Compare" if the percentage seems high, but I've now edited the copy further and
got it down to a 12.3% similarity with KNVB, which is hopefully good enough for now. (Will probably keep tweaking, I'm a bit obsessive-compulsive that way.)
Cielquiparle (
talk)
21:00, 8 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Ok, why was noting that the pink, yellow and blue stripes that are said to be for sexual/gender orientation are identical to the Pansexual Pride flag unacceptable to someone? A couple of Pride flags that aren't identical are mentioned, so why not one where - by coincidence or not - that is?
Lovingboth (
talk)
23:19, 18 December 2022 (UTC)reply
The edit reasons say it is unsourced speculation. I would agree: there is a source for what those three colours represent, and it does not mention the pansexual pride flag. If there was no existing source for the colours, you may have been able to use observational information - a source about the pansexual pride flag with the colours - to reference the similarities. That would still be dubious as it is implying that the two things are related, with no source, which Wikipedia doesn't accept. But you might have got it in. Unfortunately, there is a source about the colours and it doesn't mention pansexual pride. So it either isn't notable enough for coverage, and so shouldn't be included. Or it isn't mentioned because it isn't a reason for the colours, and so shouldn't be included. Your own views on what the colours are, are exactly that:
your own.
Kingsif (
talk)
23:35, 18 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Interestingly, I don't see the top left colour as like the one in the Pan-African flag at all, but yep, that's what the source says that half was inspired by.
Lovingboth (
talk)
19:56, 19 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Ah ha, I have found a source - the German Football Association, i.e. the largest single sports federation in the world and one of the nations that wanted to wear it at the recent FIFA World Cup, say that the colours come from the Pansexual Pride flag.
Lovingboth (
talk)
23:35, 18 December 2022 (UTC)reply
A fact from OneLove appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 December 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Human rights, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Human rights on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Human rightsWikipedia:WikiProject Human rightsTemplate:WikiProject Human rightsHuman rights articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Organizations, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Organizations on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.OrganizationsWikipedia:WikiProject OrganizationsTemplate:WikiProject Organizationsorganization articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Discrimination, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Discrimination on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DiscriminationWikipedia:WikiProject DiscriminationTemplate:WikiProject DiscriminationDiscrimination articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Association football on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FootballWikipedia:WikiProject FootballTemplate:WikiProject Footballfootball articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sports, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
sport-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SportsWikipedia:WikiProject SportsTemplate:WikiProject Sportssports articles
Assess : newly added and existing articles, maybe nominate some good B-class articles for
GA; independently assess some as A-class, regardless of GA status.
This article is of interest to WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all
LGBT-related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, please visit the
project page or contribute to the
discussion.LGBT studiesWikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studiesTemplate:WikiProject LGBT studiesLGBT articles
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that OneLove(logo pictured) began as a Dutch campaign to encourage anti-discrimination in
football?
ALT1: ... that the Dutch OneLove campaign(logo pictured) inspired
football captains to wear rainbow armbands at the
2020 and
2022 European Championships?
Initial review. Timely article, providing historical context beyond the recent news cycle. Personally, I would recommend running the hook ASAP while the World Cup is still ongoing. On to the review: long enough, well sourced, Earwig says copyvio unlikely, neutral tone in describing controversies. May technically be two days late (DYK tool says 5x expansion began on November 23), but that is within the "one or two day" grace period per D9, and it looks like there were several mitigating factors including the involvement of multiple editors which caused the article to expand and contract significantly at least once, which is understandable given the currency of, and widespread interest in, the topic. The QPQ is done. The hooks are OK. Before I go ahead and tick "approve", I just wanted to ask
Kingsif if any hooks are possible mentioning the current World Cup? Also not a blocker to approval, but I might suggest mentioning within the article the
Germany team's "covered mouth" protest and the
story about the German supermarket pulling its sponsorship causing the German FA to replace their logo with OneLove instead; and possibly other sponsors (e.g. Lucozade) as well? Another side comment is that the bots will eventually flag the fact that there are 7 footnotes strung together at the end of the lede, so I would suggest cleaning that up somehow.
Cielquiparle (
talk)
13:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Cielquiparle: Thanks for the review! I have made some edits per your suggestions, though I didn't want to add too much about the current World Cup as there is already a lot about it at some more specific articles that are linked. I can suggest some World Cup-related hooks, but did (still do) wonder if they might be too "current" to be accepted, especially if running during the World Cup.
Kingsif (
talk)
15:10, 2 December 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Cielquiparle and
Kingsif: the first paragraph of the History section has a significant copy-paste from knvb.com. See
the earwig report. I know it says "violation unlikely", but if you read the full report, it's obvious it was copied. This needs to be fixed before it can be promoted. The other top items from Earwig are direct quotes which are appropriately attributed, so those are OK. If you want to get this to run before the World Cup is over, time is short. --
RoySmith(talk)20:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)reply
@
RoySmith: Thanks for flagging. Not sure how I missed that (something to do with translation bots maybe?), as I usually do check "Compare" if the percentage seems high, but I've now edited the copy further and
got it down to a 12.3% similarity with KNVB, which is hopefully good enough for now. (Will probably keep tweaking, I'm a bit obsessive-compulsive that way.)
Cielquiparle (
talk)
21:00, 8 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Ok, why was noting that the pink, yellow and blue stripes that are said to be for sexual/gender orientation are identical to the Pansexual Pride flag unacceptable to someone? A couple of Pride flags that aren't identical are mentioned, so why not one where - by coincidence or not - that is?
Lovingboth (
talk)
23:19, 18 December 2022 (UTC)reply
The edit reasons say it is unsourced speculation. I would agree: there is a source for what those three colours represent, and it does not mention the pansexual pride flag. If there was no existing source for the colours, you may have been able to use observational information - a source about the pansexual pride flag with the colours - to reference the similarities. That would still be dubious as it is implying that the two things are related, with no source, which Wikipedia doesn't accept. But you might have got it in. Unfortunately, there is a source about the colours and it doesn't mention pansexual pride. So it either isn't notable enough for coverage, and so shouldn't be included. Or it isn't mentioned because it isn't a reason for the colours, and so shouldn't be included. Your own views on what the colours are, are exactly that:
your own.
Kingsif (
talk)
23:35, 18 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Interestingly, I don't see the top left colour as like the one in the Pan-African flag at all, but yep, that's what the source says that half was inspired by.
Lovingboth (
talk)
19:56, 19 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Ah ha, I have found a source - the German Football Association, i.e. the largest single sports federation in the world and one of the nations that wanted to wear it at the recent FIFA World Cup, say that the colours come from the Pansexual Pride flag.
Lovingboth (
talk)
23:35, 18 December 2022 (UTC)reply