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This is claiming to be a reliable source as a passenger list. First off I'm uneasy about placing this here until families etc are notified, secondly, is it reliable? The Rambling Man 18:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure the passenger manifest is reliable because that's an official copy prepared by the airlines. What's important is that it doesn't indicate survivors and dead passengers, so I think it can be put up as only a reference to who's on board. Bonchygeez 20:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
These pages also record the incident. As the fatalities number is still increasing, please edit these pages too as the event progresses.
Thanks~ - PeterCX& Talk 11:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't want to screw up the referencing of the number of nationalities involved, but there were two Dutch people on the plane, one man and one woman. This has been confirmed by the Thai Minister for Health. See
"Twee Nederlanders gewond bij vliegramp Thailand".
NRC Handelsblad.
2007-09-16. Retrieved 2007-09-16. {{
cite news}}
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help). How should this information be processed? Splitting the nationalities by bullets?
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Brievenbus
20:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
I've been reading through news reports and there seems to be only mention of one pilot, Captain Airef, a 56-year-old Indonesian, at the controls of the flight. I really don't think there's only one pilot. Anyone knows? Bonchygeez 02:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Article states "The NTSB determined the cause of the crash to be "flight crew error", as the first officer was inadequately trained and inexperienced and the captain of the flight was incapacitated at the time of the crash." but there's no citation, and it seems very relevant to ask in what way was the captain incapitated. ----
"Phuket" was never a good transliteration of the Thai word. However, that's got to be the worst phonetic transliteration I have ever seen. "Poo-get" is much, much closer. "poock-eht" is bad because: firstly you separate the two syllables in the wrong place; I can't imagine what value the c adds and finally the "gor gai" character should give a 'g' sound in this case. And yes I am thinking of how non-native English speakers would pronounce this too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.123.113.87 ( talk) 09:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
What is the nationality of the crew members? WhisperToMe 10:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Much of the article consists of attacks on airline which were added by User:InvestigateUdom and have not been attributed to reliable sources. -- 58.10.216.134 ( talk) 10:00, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
These files from British coroners are hosted on the Investigate Udom website. They are reliable sources, even if the commentary from the website owner is not.
WhisperToMe ( talk) 05:41, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
The box says that there were 130 people on board, 89 of them were killed in the accident, 40 survived. That doesn't quite add up, one of the passengers is obviously neither counted among the dead nor among the surviviors. The figure of 89 is in the NTSB report, so is the total number of passengers. From this source one would deduce a number of survivors of 41. On the other hand the entry on Aviation Safety Network gives 90 dead and 40 survivors stating as source: "NTSB". Could it be that there was one person initially surviving the accident and then dying later on? Then it may depend on the timeframe which person would still count as a survivor and which one as a death victim. So I hope there is anybody who can shed some light on this. -- 88.73.55.87 ( talk) 15:07, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
This is claiming to be a reliable source as a passenger list. First off I'm uneasy about placing this here until families etc are notified, secondly, is it reliable? The Rambling Man 18:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure the passenger manifest is reliable because that's an official copy prepared by the airlines. What's important is that it doesn't indicate survivors and dead passengers, so I think it can be put up as only a reference to who's on board. Bonchygeez 20:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
These pages also record the incident. As the fatalities number is still increasing, please edit these pages too as the event progresses.
Thanks~ - PeterCX& Talk 11:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't want to screw up the referencing of the number of nationalities involved, but there were two Dutch people on the plane, one man and one woman. This has been confirmed by the Thai Minister for Health. See
"Twee Nederlanders gewond bij vliegramp Thailand".
NRC Handelsblad.
2007-09-16. Retrieved 2007-09-16. {{
cite news}}
: Check date values in: |date=
(
help). How should this information be processed? Splitting the nationalities by bullets?
A
ecis
Brievenbus
20:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
I've been reading through news reports and there seems to be only mention of one pilot, Captain Airef, a 56-year-old Indonesian, at the controls of the flight. I really don't think there's only one pilot. Anyone knows? Bonchygeez 02:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Article states "The NTSB determined the cause of the crash to be "flight crew error", as the first officer was inadequately trained and inexperienced and the captain of the flight was incapacitated at the time of the crash." but there's no citation, and it seems very relevant to ask in what way was the captain incapitated. ----
"Phuket" was never a good transliteration of the Thai word. However, that's got to be the worst phonetic transliteration I have ever seen. "Poo-get" is much, much closer. "poock-eht" is bad because: firstly you separate the two syllables in the wrong place; I can't imagine what value the c adds and finally the "gor gai" character should give a 'g' sound in this case. And yes I am thinking of how non-native English speakers would pronounce this too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.123.113.87 ( talk) 09:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
What is the nationality of the crew members? WhisperToMe 10:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Much of the article consists of attacks on airline which were added by User:InvestigateUdom and have not been attributed to reliable sources. -- 58.10.216.134 ( talk) 10:00, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
These files from British coroners are hosted on the Investigate Udom website. They are reliable sources, even if the commentary from the website owner is not.
WhisperToMe ( talk) 05:41, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
The box says that there were 130 people on board, 89 of them were killed in the accident, 40 survived. That doesn't quite add up, one of the passengers is obviously neither counted among the dead nor among the surviviors. The figure of 89 is in the NTSB report, so is the total number of passengers. From this source one would deduce a number of survivors of 41. On the other hand the entry on Aviation Safety Network gives 90 dead and 40 survivors stating as source: "NTSB". Could it be that there was one person initially surviving the accident and then dying later on? Then it may depend on the timeframe which person would still count as a survivor and which one as a death victim. So I hope there is anybody who can shed some light on this. -- 88.73.55.87 ( talk) 15:07, 1 October 2012 (UTC)