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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 September 2020 and 14 December 2020. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Mambonumber7.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 01:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Not that I care enough to get into an edit war over omegaverse, but the wholesale revision of my edits by User:Sandstein, even the completely benign ones that are unambigious improvements – piping the link to Alpha (ethology), the addition of Template:Fan fiction – feels a lot like WP:OWNBEHAVIOR to me, and is somewhat concering behavior to see from an administrator. Morgan695 ( talk) 15:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm a university student currently working on expanding this page. I'll be moving some additions over shortly, specifically focusing on expanding the history section as well as the litigation/lawsuit section. Mambonumber7 ( talk) 16:05, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi Mambonumber7! The article was really informative and had good info throughout! I'm not too foreign from the omegaverse so I hope I can help as much as I can! I had a few notes to just add length and make the overall aesthetic a bit more pleasing!
Regarding imagery, obviously it’s hard to get those due to the topic being fiction. But, I think you can be a bit creative. For instance, the segment on AO3 could have the logo (which I believe is already on wiki commons!). Since, the entirety of omegaverse revolves around wolf-like biological behavior, perhaps adding a wolf next to the genre characteristics. Others could be Star Trek’s Kirk and Spock pairing, Supernatural ships, J.L. Langley, Yaoi, etc!
Additionally, perhaps focusing on how some of the pairings/ships come to life would add a bit of useful length. The page on fan fiction goes through the particulars of shipping, but perhaps you could add a line or two to clarify the specific ships you've chosen (as in why Kirk/spock—canon vs fanon—).
The article heavily focuses on male-male alpha-omegas, and you mentioned that het works have been produced. Is there any data available for the percentage of male-male to female-female to male-female? I think that'd be interesting and useful to commons of omegaverse vs the minority.
Lastly, regarding any yaoi centric genres, the topic of the sexualization of gay men by heterosexual women often comes up (similar to sexualizing lesbian women by men). Has this topic been brought up (by a reputable source) that you could perhaps use more for the history/impact section?
Overall, a great job so far with good information that helps build up the world of Omegaverse! 8isfate ( talk) 17:29, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Mambonumber7! I found this article to be really interesting and informative. You definitely seemed to touch on a lot of overarching themes that are directly related to Omegaverses and I think overall your article is at a great point. Like 8isfate mentioned above, I agree that you could potentially add more content if you wanted that connected to topics relating to this. I'm not personally super knowledge on the Omegaverse or its fanbase but I think adding some examples (potentially from sources?) might be a great way to further illustrate the concept to readers who also aren't as knowledged about this.
The content was well-organized and I thought you maintained a neutral voice throughout your article. I don't think it seemed promotionally or "fan"-like in any way. I would again agree with 8isfate's comment above in the creation of a history section. You could list how the omegaverse became mainstream, any problematic themes it runs into, or just general facts about how it came to be.
This was a really interesting read for me and I definitely enjoyed learning more about this subsection of the internet! Really unique topic! Crohbar ( talk) 16:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
I’m a little confused about why the following passage was included. As the passage itself states, the Enigma type character had no impact on the omegaverse world. Aromantic Frogge ( talk) 06:02, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
“Through her work Kanraku Alpha Enigma, mangaka Shinshi Nakai subsequently tried to add the "Enigma", a new type of character who can mutate their secondary gender, but the novelty was resisted by Omegaverse fans and had no impact or continuity.”
Hi there! I want to gauge the thoughts of my fellow Wikipedia editors on citing the 2008 boy's love visual novel Sweet Pool as one of the first examples of Omegaverse fiction. It features many attributes of the typical omegaverse world:
>the all male lead cast are separated into three groups (secondary gender) being "Osu" (Alpha), "Mesu" (Omega), and just a standard human (Beta)
>An archaic version of the pheromone/estrous cycle
>Mpreg(?? idk if you would call it that the guy is pooping sentient meat)
The people I talk to also seem to think the series is at the very least omegaverse-like, but I would like an unbiased opinion from someone who is not a fan of the game before I make any changes to the page. I don't want to come of as too fanlike (as mentioned in previous talk posts) and would like to make my changes as neutral as possible. Giogio550 ( talk) 07:12, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Omegaverse fan fiction appears to have become popular and spread from fandoms for texts that include werewolves, like Teen Wolf, Harry Potter, and Twilight (Busse 2013): the terminology is borrowed from Teen Wolf (Fazekas 2014); the stories include concepts from Twilight, such as imprinting (Busse 2013); and the entire idea of "these wolf-like humans" and their "wolf-like traits" (Busse 2013, 289) is, obviously, (were)wolf-inspired. Precisely which fandom birthed omegaverse fic is uncertain, but Busse (2013) speculates that "it was the Supernatural RPF fandom, J2" (291).
Busse makes it pretty clear in her work that the attribution to Supernatural is still speculation. This is followed by later works of fan scholars, like Duggan 2023 (quoted above), which also note that it is uncertain where omegaverse originates from. ~ F4U ( talk • they/it) 19:20, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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![]() | This article contains a translation of Omegaverse from it.wikipedia. ( 1081106877 et seq.) |
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 September 2020 and 14 December 2020. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Mambonumber7.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 01:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Not that I care enough to get into an edit war over omegaverse, but the wholesale revision of my edits by User:Sandstein, even the completely benign ones that are unambigious improvements – piping the link to Alpha (ethology), the addition of Template:Fan fiction – feels a lot like WP:OWNBEHAVIOR to me, and is somewhat concering behavior to see from an administrator. Morgan695 ( talk) 15:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm a university student currently working on expanding this page. I'll be moving some additions over shortly, specifically focusing on expanding the history section as well as the litigation/lawsuit section. Mambonumber7 ( talk) 16:05, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi Mambonumber7! The article was really informative and had good info throughout! I'm not too foreign from the omegaverse so I hope I can help as much as I can! I had a few notes to just add length and make the overall aesthetic a bit more pleasing!
Regarding imagery, obviously it’s hard to get those due to the topic being fiction. But, I think you can be a bit creative. For instance, the segment on AO3 could have the logo (which I believe is already on wiki commons!). Since, the entirety of omegaverse revolves around wolf-like biological behavior, perhaps adding a wolf next to the genre characteristics. Others could be Star Trek’s Kirk and Spock pairing, Supernatural ships, J.L. Langley, Yaoi, etc!
Additionally, perhaps focusing on how some of the pairings/ships come to life would add a bit of useful length. The page on fan fiction goes through the particulars of shipping, but perhaps you could add a line or two to clarify the specific ships you've chosen (as in why Kirk/spock—canon vs fanon—).
The article heavily focuses on male-male alpha-omegas, and you mentioned that het works have been produced. Is there any data available for the percentage of male-male to female-female to male-female? I think that'd be interesting and useful to commons of omegaverse vs the minority.
Lastly, regarding any yaoi centric genres, the topic of the sexualization of gay men by heterosexual women often comes up (similar to sexualizing lesbian women by men). Has this topic been brought up (by a reputable source) that you could perhaps use more for the history/impact section?
Overall, a great job so far with good information that helps build up the world of Omegaverse! 8isfate ( talk) 17:29, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Mambonumber7! I found this article to be really interesting and informative. You definitely seemed to touch on a lot of overarching themes that are directly related to Omegaverses and I think overall your article is at a great point. Like 8isfate mentioned above, I agree that you could potentially add more content if you wanted that connected to topics relating to this. I'm not personally super knowledge on the Omegaverse or its fanbase but I think adding some examples (potentially from sources?) might be a great way to further illustrate the concept to readers who also aren't as knowledged about this.
The content was well-organized and I thought you maintained a neutral voice throughout your article. I don't think it seemed promotionally or "fan"-like in any way. I would again agree with 8isfate's comment above in the creation of a history section. You could list how the omegaverse became mainstream, any problematic themes it runs into, or just general facts about how it came to be.
This was a really interesting read for me and I definitely enjoyed learning more about this subsection of the internet! Really unique topic! Crohbar ( talk) 16:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
I’m a little confused about why the following passage was included. As the passage itself states, the Enigma type character had no impact on the omegaverse world. Aromantic Frogge ( talk) 06:02, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
“Through her work Kanraku Alpha Enigma, mangaka Shinshi Nakai subsequently tried to add the "Enigma", a new type of character who can mutate their secondary gender, but the novelty was resisted by Omegaverse fans and had no impact or continuity.”
Hi there! I want to gauge the thoughts of my fellow Wikipedia editors on citing the 2008 boy's love visual novel Sweet Pool as one of the first examples of Omegaverse fiction. It features many attributes of the typical omegaverse world:
>the all male lead cast are separated into three groups (secondary gender) being "Osu" (Alpha), "Mesu" (Omega), and just a standard human (Beta)
>An archaic version of the pheromone/estrous cycle
>Mpreg(?? idk if you would call it that the guy is pooping sentient meat)
The people I talk to also seem to think the series is at the very least omegaverse-like, but I would like an unbiased opinion from someone who is not a fan of the game before I make any changes to the page. I don't want to come of as too fanlike (as mentioned in previous talk posts) and would like to make my changes as neutral as possible. Giogio550 ( talk) 07:12, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Omegaverse fan fiction appears to have become popular and spread from fandoms for texts that include werewolves, like Teen Wolf, Harry Potter, and Twilight (Busse 2013): the terminology is borrowed from Teen Wolf (Fazekas 2014); the stories include concepts from Twilight, such as imprinting (Busse 2013); and the entire idea of "these wolf-like humans" and their "wolf-like traits" (Busse 2013, 289) is, obviously, (were)wolf-inspired. Precisely which fandom birthed omegaverse fic is uncertain, but Busse (2013) speculates that "it was the Supernatural RPF fandom, J2" (291).
Busse makes it pretty clear in her work that the attribution to Supernatural is still speculation. This is followed by later works of fan scholars, like Duggan 2023 (quoted above), which also note that it is uncertain where omegaverse originates from. ~ F4U ( talk • they/it) 19:20, 5 December 2023 (UTC)