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While there are variants in the spelling of the name the most common spelling used in sources relating to New York appears to be DeLancey.
Here's my quick survey of a few books on my shelf:
BradMajors ( talk) 03:37, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
As I've pointed out on Talk:Oliver De Lancey Jr., the ODNB draws a clear distinction between the Oliver's (sr and jr, and indeed jr's own son, Oliver) spelling their name with the space, and James DeLancey, given without the space. All contemporary usage for Oilver Jr uses the space. you've mentioned elsewhere the Dictionary of Canadian Biography. That only seems to refer to James, prefering DeLancey, but giving De Lancey as a variant. David Underdown ( talk) 15:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I am taking down the article title dispute template. While there are variants in the spellings of all members of the DeLancey family it appears "Oliver De Lancey" is the most popular as an index term. It is still undetermined whether "Oliver De Lancey" or "Oliver de Lancey" should be used in the text. BradMajors ( talk) 03:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
If Jr. and Sr. are used commonly in reliable sources then that is what should be used here. If some other disambiguation such as "the elder" is frequently used in reliable sources then we should rename these articles Oliver De Lancey, the elder or whatever. But if that is a disambiguation used here an not often used in reliable sources, I suggest we move the pages to Oliver De Lancey (senior) to make it clear it is a Wikipedia dab extension. -- PBS ( talk) 01:27, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
If neither Senior or Elder are commonly used another solution would be to follow the lead of Henry Clinton (American War of Independence) and Henry Clinton (Napoleonic Wars) and name the disambiguation after what else is likely to be used in a search.
The Reason the DNB calls Jr. "the elder" is because his son is also notable:
Neither volume includes the the man currently called Oliver_De_Lancey, Sr. or "Oliver de Lancey, (American loyalist)". -- PBS ( talk) 03:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
The dab page Oliver DeLancey now says of the three generations:
Oliver DeLancey (also known as Oliver DeLancey and Oliver de Lancey) may refer to:
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While there are variants in the spelling of the name the most common spelling used in sources relating to New York appears to be DeLancey.
Here's my quick survey of a few books on my shelf:
BradMajors ( talk) 03:37, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
As I've pointed out on Talk:Oliver De Lancey Jr., the ODNB draws a clear distinction between the Oliver's (sr and jr, and indeed jr's own son, Oliver) spelling their name with the space, and James DeLancey, given without the space. All contemporary usage for Oilver Jr uses the space. you've mentioned elsewhere the Dictionary of Canadian Biography. That only seems to refer to James, prefering DeLancey, but giving De Lancey as a variant. David Underdown ( talk) 15:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I am taking down the article title dispute template. While there are variants in the spellings of all members of the DeLancey family it appears "Oliver De Lancey" is the most popular as an index term. It is still undetermined whether "Oliver De Lancey" or "Oliver de Lancey" should be used in the text. BradMajors ( talk) 03:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
If Jr. and Sr. are used commonly in reliable sources then that is what should be used here. If some other disambiguation such as "the elder" is frequently used in reliable sources then we should rename these articles Oliver De Lancey, the elder or whatever. But if that is a disambiguation used here an not often used in reliable sources, I suggest we move the pages to Oliver De Lancey (senior) to make it clear it is a Wikipedia dab extension. -- PBS ( talk) 01:27, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
If neither Senior or Elder are commonly used another solution would be to follow the lead of Henry Clinton (American War of Independence) and Henry Clinton (Napoleonic Wars) and name the disambiguation after what else is likely to be used in a search.
The Reason the DNB calls Jr. "the elder" is because his son is also notable:
Neither volume includes the the man currently called Oliver_De_Lancey, Sr. or "Oliver de Lancey, (American loyalist)". -- PBS ( talk) 03:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
The dab page Oliver DeLancey now says of the three generations:
Oliver DeLancey (also known as Oliver DeLancey and Oliver de Lancey) may refer to: