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Did the person who wrote this article have no more than a Grade 6 education? I do not mean that with disrespect; I am genuinely curious. The article is very poorly constructed, especially the actual recap of the movie story line. Please have someone rewrite it with proper sentence construction and logical flow of information. Jeepers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.89.185.171 ( talk) 05:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I agree that there are too many reviews. The movie received largely negative reviews; however, a few examples would suffice rather than a gigantic section dedicated to making fun of the movie more than providing real context regarding its critical reception. talk 10:58, 08 March 2010 (UTC)
I just to recommend that I think they are too many reviews. Can we try to trim them down to at least 10?. One thing I want to add is that the whole reception section of the page is completely negative reception towards the film making the whole section "BIAS". But's there one exception I read which was Carrie Rickey for The Philadelphia Inquirer who gave the film a mixed response. So can we try to find some positive reviews or something? Well, I would love to hear from you! ( talk 04:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) I can see no good reason to tag this article as not neutral. I'm sorry the film stinks. I'm sorry because it's Bernie Mac's last film. I'm sorry because Travolta should have had a hit due to him. And it's regrettable that Travolta already has the worst picture of all time on his resume, and now may have the second worst. But it is not biased or non-neutral to report what critics have said about it. And it isn't professional to report what the average movie goer might think. The box office reflects that, and the box office ain't that great [1]. Even 40% of the Box Office Mojo members rate it at an F. Sometimes writing about a film that is considered bad may look negative, but it isn't the editors biasing it. That honor belongs to the film. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 00:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Like mentioned above, we do need to ensure that articles include reliable, cited information, even if there is negative reactions to the subject. Striking a neutral balance can be difficult, but it appears that this article has provided an accurate representation from multiple critical ratings. Although I consider the article to be neutral, if others want to drive the focus away from the negative reviews, then I'd suggest looking to expand the article. Adding sections such as production, soundtrack, marketing, etc. can be helpful in both balancing out the article (readers get a better view of the film's various elements besides just its reaction) while also improving it at the same time. Of course, we can't sugar coat the article, some film plots are beyond saving. However, we can provide a better resource for readers who have watched the film, want to learn about it, or are considering watching it. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 01:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree there are far too many reviews quoted in the critical reception section, and I think it should be trimmed. Hammering away at the fact the film stinks seems like overkill to me, especially when you start quoting critics who aren't usually cited in Wikipedia film articles. And would someone please trim the synopsis, too? LargoLarry ( talk) 18:43, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I doubt the assertion that Jimmy Lunchbox is gay in the article. I saw the film myself, and I heard nor discerned any homosexual behaviors from Mac's performance. Yes, his clothing and profession are eccentric, but labeling a person's sexuality based on his appearance is narrow-minded and unconsiderate. 173.26.19.206 ( talk) 20:40, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Residente, vocalist of Calle 13, has a very small cameo in the tattoo parlor scene. But it's so small, I don't even think they recognized him in the credits. Anyway, should it be put in the cast, or anywhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xwexarexbulletsx ( talk • contribs) 04:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
At the camp, the kids say "He's my dad, and that's his partner. It's like we have two dads." In the plot section, it says the counsellor thinks "Dan and Charlie are homosexual partners". Though true, this sort of clinical description is outdated, and bordering on offensive. For purposes of the plot description, I don't believe it's important to include the precise play on words to explain the confusion, so "a couple" or "together" would be more appropriate. But if it is determined to be important to know that the word "partner" caused the confusion, then the appropriate term is "life partners". 24.57.239.43 ( talk) 07:35, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Why on earth is a crap film like this required to be indefinitely protected? You hoping it will be selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant"? Too many knee jerk admins on here IMO!! 86.161.148.90 ( talk) 11:44, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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Did the person who wrote this article have no more than a Grade 6 education? I do not mean that with disrespect; I am genuinely curious. The article is very poorly constructed, especially the actual recap of the movie story line. Please have someone rewrite it with proper sentence construction and logical flow of information. Jeepers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.89.185.171 ( talk) 05:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I agree that there are too many reviews. The movie received largely negative reviews; however, a few examples would suffice rather than a gigantic section dedicated to making fun of the movie more than providing real context regarding its critical reception. talk 10:58, 08 March 2010 (UTC)
I just to recommend that I think they are too many reviews. Can we try to trim them down to at least 10?. One thing I want to add is that the whole reception section of the page is completely negative reception towards the film making the whole section "BIAS". But's there one exception I read which was Carrie Rickey for The Philadelphia Inquirer who gave the film a mixed response. So can we try to find some positive reviews or something? Well, I would love to hear from you! ( talk 04:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) I can see no good reason to tag this article as not neutral. I'm sorry the film stinks. I'm sorry because it's Bernie Mac's last film. I'm sorry because Travolta should have had a hit due to him. And it's regrettable that Travolta already has the worst picture of all time on his resume, and now may have the second worst. But it is not biased or non-neutral to report what critics have said about it. And it isn't professional to report what the average movie goer might think. The box office reflects that, and the box office ain't that great [1]. Even 40% of the Box Office Mojo members rate it at an F. Sometimes writing about a film that is considered bad may look negative, but it isn't the editors biasing it. That honor belongs to the film. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 00:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Like mentioned above, we do need to ensure that articles include reliable, cited information, even if there is negative reactions to the subject. Striking a neutral balance can be difficult, but it appears that this article has provided an accurate representation from multiple critical ratings. Although I consider the article to be neutral, if others want to drive the focus away from the negative reviews, then I'd suggest looking to expand the article. Adding sections such as production, soundtrack, marketing, etc. can be helpful in both balancing out the article (readers get a better view of the film's various elements besides just its reaction) while also improving it at the same time. Of course, we can't sugar coat the article, some film plots are beyond saving. However, we can provide a better resource for readers who have watched the film, want to learn about it, or are considering watching it. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 01:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree there are far too many reviews quoted in the critical reception section, and I think it should be trimmed. Hammering away at the fact the film stinks seems like overkill to me, especially when you start quoting critics who aren't usually cited in Wikipedia film articles. And would someone please trim the synopsis, too? LargoLarry ( talk) 18:43, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I doubt the assertion that Jimmy Lunchbox is gay in the article. I saw the film myself, and I heard nor discerned any homosexual behaviors from Mac's performance. Yes, his clothing and profession are eccentric, but labeling a person's sexuality based on his appearance is narrow-minded and unconsiderate. 173.26.19.206 ( talk) 20:40, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Residente, vocalist of Calle 13, has a very small cameo in the tattoo parlor scene. But it's so small, I don't even think they recognized him in the credits. Anyway, should it be put in the cast, or anywhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xwexarexbulletsx ( talk • contribs) 04:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
At the camp, the kids say "He's my dad, and that's his partner. It's like we have two dads." In the plot section, it says the counsellor thinks "Dan and Charlie are homosexual partners". Though true, this sort of clinical description is outdated, and bordering on offensive. For purposes of the plot description, I don't believe it's important to include the precise play on words to explain the confusion, so "a couple" or "together" would be more appropriate. But if it is determined to be important to know that the word "partner" caused the confusion, then the appropriate term is "life partners". 24.57.239.43 ( talk) 07:35, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Why on earth is a crap film like this required to be indefinitely protected? You hoping it will be selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant"? Too many knee jerk admins on here IMO!! 86.161.148.90 ( talk) 11:44, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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