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What is the liteary syle of this peice? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.16.1 ( talk • contribs) 01:43, 30 October 2007
In the first sentence of the article, the book is referred to as of Plymouth Plantation. Seeing that there is a section on the name of the book, is the lowercase o intentional? If so, should it say that it's supposed to be lowercase and it can't b/c of technical restrictions, e.g. Long_s? Otherwise, it's a simple fix. JMtB03 ( talk) 00:49, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
At the top of Bradford's diary, the form used is actually Plim̃oth. In the writing and printing of the time, a tilde or line above a letter indicated a missing nasal consonant (m, n or ng). It's likely, then, that the spelling intended was in fact Plimmoth in modern script. Could the article text be updated to reflect this, or at least to include the diacritic used? — Jch thys 20:23, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Not sure if this is relevant here, but the original Plymouth in Devon, England is so named as it stands at the mouth of the River Plym at the English Channel, ie Plym-mouth. So the doubling of the m in the pronunciation of the name reflects its etymology as a place name. 31.51.210.171 ( talk) 10:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Perhaps we could find some interpretive sources which might suggest how Bradford uses Biblical allusions to relate the journey of the Puritans to earlier experiences of certain figures and groups in the Old and New Testaments. For instance if you read his text, you will notice that just after Bradford recounts the hardships of the Puritans' journey across the Atlantic (i.e. damage their ship, etc.), he makes a reference to Paul's shipwreck (New Testament book of Acts)--thus essentially relating the two events. In that same Biblical passage to which he alludes, Paul and his companions are assisted by barbarians. He could very well be relating this to making peace with the native Americans, which he describes in passages later in his narrative. We might even be able to find some sources that could relate the first Thanksgiving to the Last Supper. It could also be said that he makes a series of connections between the Puritans and the ancient Hebrews in their journey out of Egypt to the Promised Land, some obvious other implied. For instance we could find sources relating similar steps taken in both journeys: Moses (Heberws' leader)=Bradford (Puritans' leader); Egypt (slavery)=England (persecution); Red Sea=Atlantic Ocean; Trials in desert=hardships on Mayflower; Mt. Pisgah (or Mt. Nemo, from where Moses looks down before his people enter promised land)=Plymouth Rock (at Cape Cod, hence "Plymouth Plantation"); Promised Land=New World. We could also find sources addressing how he uses these connections to keep his followers from giving up hope in the face of adversity, and how his piece conjures up a certain "manifest destiny" myth that shares parallels with others in history, particularly in religious texts. So, let's see what sources we could come up with to enrich this article, which is missing out on a big part of what the makes Bradford's narrative interesting from a literary and thematic standpoint. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 19:34, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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What is the liteary syle of this peice? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.16.1 ( talk • contribs) 01:43, 30 October 2007
In the first sentence of the article, the book is referred to as of Plymouth Plantation. Seeing that there is a section on the name of the book, is the lowercase o intentional? If so, should it say that it's supposed to be lowercase and it can't b/c of technical restrictions, e.g. Long_s? Otherwise, it's a simple fix. JMtB03 ( talk) 00:49, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
At the top of Bradford's diary, the form used is actually Plim̃oth. In the writing and printing of the time, a tilde or line above a letter indicated a missing nasal consonant (m, n or ng). It's likely, then, that the spelling intended was in fact Plimmoth in modern script. Could the article text be updated to reflect this, or at least to include the diacritic used? — Jch thys 20:23, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Not sure if this is relevant here, but the original Plymouth in Devon, England is so named as it stands at the mouth of the River Plym at the English Channel, ie Plym-mouth. So the doubling of the m in the pronunciation of the name reflects its etymology as a place name. 31.51.210.171 ( talk) 10:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Perhaps we could find some interpretive sources which might suggest how Bradford uses Biblical allusions to relate the journey of the Puritans to earlier experiences of certain figures and groups in the Old and New Testaments. For instance if you read his text, you will notice that just after Bradford recounts the hardships of the Puritans' journey across the Atlantic (i.e. damage their ship, etc.), he makes a reference to Paul's shipwreck (New Testament book of Acts)--thus essentially relating the two events. In that same Biblical passage to which he alludes, Paul and his companions are assisted by barbarians. He could very well be relating this to making peace with the native Americans, which he describes in passages later in his narrative. We might even be able to find some sources that could relate the first Thanksgiving to the Last Supper. It could also be said that he makes a series of connections between the Puritans and the ancient Hebrews in their journey out of Egypt to the Promised Land, some obvious other implied. For instance we could find sources relating similar steps taken in both journeys: Moses (Heberws' leader)=Bradford (Puritans' leader); Egypt (slavery)=England (persecution); Red Sea=Atlantic Ocean; Trials in desert=hardships on Mayflower; Mt. Pisgah (or Mt. Nemo, from where Moses looks down before his people enter promised land)=Plymouth Rock (at Cape Cod, hence "Plymouth Plantation"); Promised Land=New World. We could also find sources addressing how he uses these connections to keep his followers from giving up hope in the face of adversity, and how his piece conjures up a certain "manifest destiny" myth that shares parallels with others in history, particularly in religious texts. So, let's see what sources we could come up with to enrich this article, which is missing out on a big part of what the makes Bradford's narrative interesting from a literary and thematic standpoint. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 19:34, 6 September 2015 (UTC)