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To get rid of the parentheses, what to people say to moving this article to Odawa? QuartierLatin1968 01:23, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Does this article refer to the same people as the Outaouais (tribe)? I created the Outaouais (tribe) article by splitting the Outaouais article, which was also for a region in Quebec. The Outaouais article said that: "They did not have a written language, and the name Outaouais is a French phonetic representation of their name. Ottawa is the English spelling." Kurieeto 19:50, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
Yes, Ottawa, Ottowa, Odaawaa, Odawa, Tawas, and Outaouais are all the same. In addition, Ottawa went by other names as well such as "Courte Oreilles" (as in Lac Courte Oreilles, as in a lake and an Ojibwe Reservation in northern Wisconsin). In addition, their name translated literally into English gives us the name "Trade" or "Trader" as in Trade River, a tributary of the St. Croix River that forms the boundary between Wisconsin and Minnesota, located on Wisconsin's side. unsigned by CJLippert, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Someone thoughtfully did a redirect for Outaouais (tribe), I see... Thanks, whoever did that! ++ Lar: t/ c 02:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
User:Leo1410 have begun a survey of all thing associated with the Anishinaabe peoples. Please visit (and possibly add, edit) to User:Leo1410/Anishinaabe, or from there create a new article. Miigwech CJLippert 05:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
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I agree with the commenter above. I think the article should be renamed to Odawa people or Odawa (people) or simply Odawa. The form Odawa is the one recommended by the Canadian Oxford Dictionary, which is the authority for the English language in Canada, used by the government, Canadian Press and most newspapers. Which sources recommend using the term Ottawa or Odaawaa in English?? The former simply resends to Odawa in the Canadian Oxford. The latter looks like the name of the people in one of the writing systems of the language itself. Odawa is the English name.-- 206.248.172.247 ( talk) 22:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
If the title of the page is called Odawa, and Odawa and Ottawa are the two most commonly-recognized names for the people, why is the subject referenced as Odaawaa every time after the first paragraph? Odaawaa looks like some sort of phonetic representation of the name, not the one most commonly used. The article suggests Odawa is the Potawatomi spelling (corruption?) of Odaawaa? I'm not well-versed in the standards for naming in indigenous articles in Wikipedia, but from a fairly comprehensive literature review, I haven't seen many references to the double-A Odaawaa. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Somerut ( talk) 23:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Zhaawano ( talk) 22:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Zhaawano ( talk) 09:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
I recently uploaded a public-domain sketch of Ottawa people by George Townshend (it says "Outawas," but the artist's history makes it clear that he means this people, right). Feel free to use if you think it'd be useful. Dcoetzee 02:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Isn't Ottawa the usual name in English? My move was just reverted, but when I first saw the "Odawa" article, I had no idea what it was about. I just did a search on Google Books, restricted to the last 20 years since "Odawa" seems to be getting more common, and "Ottawa people" was still 4× as common as "Odawa people"; "Ottawa language" is 3× as frequent as "Odawa language"; "Ottawa Nation" is 11× as common as "Odawa Nation", and "Ottawa tribe" is 20× as common as "Odawa tribe". (The closest was for "dialect", where there's only a 2:1 ratio.)
Ngram suggests that Odawa is catching up, [1] but isn't there yet; and in any case only in certain contexts, as in many "Odawa" is unattested. [2] [3]
— kwami ( talk) 08:22, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 22:57, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Odawa people → Odawa – target is redirect to current title, started as "Odawa (tribe)" by BKonrad on July 23 2004, then turned into a WP:TWODABS dab page by Sonjaaa on Sept 26 2008 then redirected to "Odawa people" by Usyvdi on June 28 2011 citing WP:TWODABS. Odawa people title was moved to "Ottawa people" by Kwami on Feb 27 2011, wrongly citing COMMONNAME, apparently because of a plethora of older cites using "Ottawa", in direct confusion with the MOSTCOMMON use of " Ottawa" in English. This was moved back to "Odawa people" by Uysvdi on Feb 28 2011, citing "Restoring previous name, move to "Ottawa" was not discussed, not necessary a more common name for this ethnic group and easily confused with the Canadian city)". Skookum1 ( talk) 05:01, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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Per this edit [4] and edit summary "Anishinaabeg" is a racially insulting term similar to the N word, a twist on the correct word, "Anishinaabe". It's unthinkable that you had it on your site.". This seems very unlikely, considering this publication Anishinaabeg Today, which uses the term in it's title, is the official publication of White Earth Reservation. A quick google search also did not find evidence that the term in question is an insult. I'll be happy to be proved wrong if someone can provide some links, otherwise I am reverting. He iro 20:16, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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To get rid of the parentheses, what to people say to moving this article to Odawa? QuartierLatin1968 01:23, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Does this article refer to the same people as the Outaouais (tribe)? I created the Outaouais (tribe) article by splitting the Outaouais article, which was also for a region in Quebec. The Outaouais article said that: "They did not have a written language, and the name Outaouais is a French phonetic representation of their name. Ottawa is the English spelling." Kurieeto 19:50, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
Yes, Ottawa, Ottowa, Odaawaa, Odawa, Tawas, and Outaouais are all the same. In addition, Ottawa went by other names as well such as "Courte Oreilles" (as in Lac Courte Oreilles, as in a lake and an Ojibwe Reservation in northern Wisconsin). In addition, their name translated literally into English gives us the name "Trade" or "Trader" as in Trade River, a tributary of the St. Croix River that forms the boundary between Wisconsin and Minnesota, located on Wisconsin's side. unsigned by CJLippert, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Someone thoughtfully did a redirect for Outaouais (tribe), I see... Thanks, whoever did that! ++ Lar: t/ c 02:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
User:Leo1410 have begun a survey of all thing associated with the Anishinaabe peoples. Please visit (and possibly add, edit) to User:Leo1410/Anishinaabe, or from there create a new article. Miigwech CJLippert 05:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree with the commenter above. I think the article should be renamed to Odawa people or Odawa (people) or simply Odawa. The form Odawa is the one recommended by the Canadian Oxford Dictionary, which is the authority for the English language in Canada, used by the government, Canadian Press and most newspapers. Which sources recommend using the term Ottawa or Odaawaa in English?? The former simply resends to Odawa in the Canadian Oxford. The latter looks like the name of the people in one of the writing systems of the language itself. Odawa is the English name.-- 206.248.172.247 ( talk) 22:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
If the title of the page is called Odawa, and Odawa and Ottawa are the two most commonly-recognized names for the people, why is the subject referenced as Odaawaa every time after the first paragraph? Odaawaa looks like some sort of phonetic representation of the name, not the one most commonly used. The article suggests Odawa is the Potawatomi spelling (corruption?) of Odaawaa? I'm not well-versed in the standards for naming in indigenous articles in Wikipedia, but from a fairly comprehensive literature review, I haven't seen many references to the double-A Odaawaa. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Somerut ( talk) 23:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Zhaawano ( talk) 22:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Zhaawano ( talk) 09:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
I recently uploaded a public-domain sketch of Ottawa people by George Townshend (it says "Outawas," but the artist's history makes it clear that he means this people, right). Feel free to use if you think it'd be useful. Dcoetzee 02:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Isn't Ottawa the usual name in English? My move was just reverted, but when I first saw the "Odawa" article, I had no idea what it was about. I just did a search on Google Books, restricted to the last 20 years since "Odawa" seems to be getting more common, and "Ottawa people" was still 4× as common as "Odawa people"; "Ottawa language" is 3× as frequent as "Odawa language"; "Ottawa Nation" is 11× as common as "Odawa Nation", and "Ottawa tribe" is 20× as common as "Odawa tribe". (The closest was for "dialect", where there's only a 2:1 ratio.)
Ngram suggests that Odawa is catching up, [1] but isn't there yet; and in any case only in certain contexts, as in many "Odawa" is unattested. [2] [3]
— kwami ( talk) 08:22, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Chipewyan people which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 09:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 22:57, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Odawa people → Odawa – target is redirect to current title, started as "Odawa (tribe)" by BKonrad on July 23 2004, then turned into a WP:TWODABS dab page by Sonjaaa on Sept 26 2008 then redirected to "Odawa people" by Usyvdi on June 28 2011 citing WP:TWODABS. Odawa people title was moved to "Ottawa people" by Kwami on Feb 27 2011, wrongly citing COMMONNAME, apparently because of a plethora of older cites using "Ottawa", in direct confusion with the MOSTCOMMON use of " Ottawa" in English. This was moved back to "Odawa people" by Uysvdi on Feb 28 2011, citing "Restoring previous name, move to "Ottawa" was not discussed, not necessary a more common name for this ethnic group and easily confused with the Canadian city)". Skookum1 ( talk) 05:01, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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Per this edit [4] and edit summary "Anishinaabeg" is a racially insulting term similar to the N word, a twist on the correct word, "Anishinaabe". It's unthinkable that you had it on your site.". This seems very unlikely, considering this publication Anishinaabeg Today, which uses the term in it's title, is the official publication of White Earth Reservation. A quick google search also did not find evidence that the term in question is an insult. I'll be happy to be proved wrong if someone can provide some links, otherwise I am reverting. He iro 20:16, 2 August 2021 (UTC)