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Should read; Oasis is an English rock band. Both "Oasis" and "band" are singular. "Are" is plural. Cixelsydon ( talk) 23:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
-- This particular article doesn't have a strong national tie though, as the band is an international band, and arguments elsewhere object to the nationalization of the band. Personally I couldn't care less about that particular argument, I am just pointing it out. However it is not grammatically correct to state Oasis ARE, since it is a singular noun (Oasis, being the name of a singular entity, which is the band) and the word ARE is a plural linking verb, the correct verb should be "is" If you were to use the word ARE in a grammatically correct sense, you would have to change the tense of the word Oasis, which would be Oases, and then the article is no longer accurate because the name of the band has changed. Dsly4425 ( talk) 08:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
The article later says "Oasis played its first live gig in August 1991", which sounds more natural to this Brit. But I really don't care. Maproom ( talk) 17:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't really feel like starting the name debate all over again, but in the article it says "Liam suggested that the band name be changed to Oasis. This change was inspired by an Inspiral Carpets tour poster which hung in the Gallagher brothers' bedroom. One of the venues the poster listed was the Oasis Leisure Centre in Swindon.". Right. I stumbled on an interview where Noel talks about his trainer collection, and he says he got the name from a shop where he used to buy clothes, it's on here.-- 81.247.53.51 ( talk) 16:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Why do the editors of this page remove anything which seems slightly negative toward Oasis even if it is fact?
For example a previous edit said "This song would later carry a co-writer's credit for Neil Innes, who sued, now receives royalties on the song and also won damages because the melody of the title track of Neil Innes' album "How Sweet To Be An Idiot" was plagiarised by Oasis."
The current edit reads "This song would later carry a co-writer's credit for Neil Innes, who sued and also won damages."
The current version doesn't explain why he sued and makes little sence as it is.
The previous edit was not vandalisim but seems to have been removed as if it was. The page should be fact not cencored by Oasis fans to bend or obscure the truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.32.255.195 ( talk) 11:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Easy to respond to that. You advocate a text which states ""How Sweet to Be An Idiot" was plagiarised by Oasis". The outcome of the legal case does not claim that at all. There is no evidence to prove that Noel did anything other then simply write a song that sounded like Innes' tune, without any plagiarism at all. The chord sequence to Innes' song is about two hundred years old at least. Does that mean Innes' plagiarised it? Pop songs are by their market very simple. And it's easy for them to bump into each other, what with there being just eight notes and a simple audience to please. Some people like Innes sue and make a big deal out of it when this happens, whilst most others recognise it as and inevitable consequence of creating easy listening music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.195.247 ( talk) 23:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
If the Proclaimers are a Scottish band the Oasis is an English one. Why be ambiguous when you can be specific! 124.176.75.38 ( talk) 22:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. Can we please stop writing about the bands' split until something official has been brought out. There have been reports and a statement from Noel saying that he has left the band, but so far nothing that confirms that the group have split and are no longer active. Thanks.-- Ike1000 ( talk) 23:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, there is no reason for the line about Noel leaving in the introduction of the band. It seems to just be put in there because somebody 'got there first'. I don't think any other bands have one member highlighted as leaving in the introduction section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.134.166 ( talk) 23:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I am going to change this - Noel has left the band, the band has not split up - yet. They have performed without Noel before on several occasions. -- PMBO ( talk) 23:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Isn't this all a bit premature? Noel has left, but the rest of the band haven't announced that they're packing it in. Noel could be back in a couple of weeks - wouldn't be the first time.-- Michig ( talk) 10:03, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Which one? It is currently "Oasis was" which struck me as odd considering they "was" British. -- can dle • wicke 04:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC) It's 'were'. British band, British English. (I'm a news subeditor) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.245.67 ( talk) 05:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
It shouldn't say 'Noel announced he was leaving the band' as this implies that he will be leaving at a later date. He has left the band, past tense. -- 95.96.146.115 ( talk) 11:58, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Oasis broke up today, that's what I heard —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.155.5.49 ( talk) 15:04, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
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"Studio Albumus"?
90.197.107.184 (
talk)
05:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
( The Elfoid ( talk) 02:59, 2 September 2009 (UTC))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMf9oYj6uGQ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.57.48.167 ( talk) 06:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
In here about there new guiness world record break, its a pretty impressive achievement but its up to you guys wether you want it to be included in the article
http://www.oasisinet.com/NewsArticle.aspx?n=775
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Tukogbani (
talk)
07:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I think its worth mentioning but its not up to me —Preceding
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Digoutyerarse (
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contribs)
06:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Chris should not be included in the members list in any way. He is NOT a member of Oasis. The band even confirmed that. He never even appears with the rest of the band in interviews or videos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WPReader ( talk • contribs) 15:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
In this article it says that Liam smashed Noels guitar in Paris on the night Noel left the band. In fact it was Noel who smashed an acoustic guitar owned by Liam which was given to him by his wife Nicole —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lylasunshine ( talk • contribs) 10:38, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
-Source? -- A Chain of Flowers ( talk) 11:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Its a FACT that Noel Gallagher is not in Oasis , so could you change the members part.Put Noel in the Former Members section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mindier ( talk • contribs) 08:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Is this really expected to last? They've broken up about a dozen times before and gotten right back together again. What makes this any different? Zazaban ( talk) 04:32, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
When have they broken up in the past? It's true Noel has left quite a few times, but this is the first time the group itself has broken up. Kohran ( talk) 17:22, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
When have they officially broken up? Oasis had plenty of in-fights and lots of individual members have quit over the years, but to my knowledge this is the first time the band itself has officially been terminated. Kohran ( talk) 14:01, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Liam is recording a new album with the rest of Oasis (without Noel) but in this article, it says that Zac Starkey is recording with them. Zac left Oasis some time ago and was replaced with Chris Sharrock so surely he is recording instead of Zac. I believe the information that Zac was recording with them came from The Sun so it is probably wrong. Shall I change the article from Zac Starkey to Chris Sharrock? -- Jdbullrat ( talk) 15:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Is that introduction really supposed to suggest that Oasis have sold 50 million albums, physically and a further 20 million either singles or downloads of albums!? Dream on.( Play Brian Moore ( talk) 20:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC))
Who's Harry Wells? I had never heard of him before, and I think Oasis would never play at a "run down waterhole" in a world of warcraft desert. Please erase that sentence —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.49.35.124 ( talk) 03:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi everyone. Please stop with this for the time being.
First off, the band CONFIRMED that Zak Starkey was NOT an official member of Oasis so we can not include him in the list of Oasis band members. Same thing with Chris and Jay, they were never not official members either.
As for the current band. Yes, I know Liam said that both Jay and Chris are currently recording with the current band but Liam said that is NOT 100% yet that the band is going to still be Oasis, therefore, if they do decide to continue as Oasis, then it's best to wait until there's confirmation before we add Chris and Jay as "official" members. —Preceding unsigned comment added by InformationViewer ( talk • contribs) 21:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
No, he said it's still Oasis until they think of something else, at this point, the band includes Chris Sharrock and Jay Darlington. And the upcoming album is still the upcoming Oasis album, until it's confirmed that their name will be something else. Oasis is not a defunct band at this point, and everyone in it is still a current member. Iminrainbows ( talk) 00:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
The lead should be "Oasis is an English rock band". Per Per British and American English differences#Formal and notional agreement, "In BrE, collective nouns can take either singular (formal agreement) or plural (notional agreement) verb forms, according to whether the emphasis is, respectively, on the body as a whole or on the individual members; compare 'a committee was appointed...' with 'the committee were unable to agree....'. The band is a singular formal agreement, as the band members formed the group together in unison and agreement; the sentence refers solely to the band itself, not to the members. Ω pho is 23:58, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I am creating this section for discussion about the recording timeline I created for the band, from now on any edits made to the timeline without discussing it in this section first will be reverted. Iminrainbows ( talk) 02:09, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Zak Starkey I think was considered full-time member of Oasis during recording sessions of Dig Out Your Soul. I also think there was a published picture with Starkey and the band all five clapping. So it is not right to omit him from the band's past member line-up. Actually I am putting Zak Starkey on the offical member list on the template and making sure to keep the status-quo.
He wasn't an official member, and left the band after recording Dig Out Your Soul. Since Alan White's departure, the band were a four-piece.-- Danoasis ( talk) 02:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
There has been much controversy over whether Oasis is over or not, they have now confirmed that Liam's new band will not be called Oasis, therefor marking the end of Oasis. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
Oasis ceased to be Oasis in 2009. Noel left and Liam announced that they would not be carrying on as Oasis. What justification is there for the infobox stating that Oasis were active until 2010?-- Michig ( talk) 15:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I think that theres way too much bias in this article towards recent events. Theres no way that much writing needs to be in place for their distablishment years as its only happened over a period of a few months. It chould be put into perspexctive with the other section of this article: for eg, the disestablishment section (6-7 months time period) is about the same size as the britpop era section (4-5 year time period), that doesnt make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mewerlack ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
If Oasis was originally The Rain, but then changed its name (and a few band members), then shouldn't the two bands be on the same page? Taken from The Rain:
“ | Shortly after Liam joined, the band was renamed Oasis, at his suggestion. | ” |
— The Rain |
If this is indeed true, then shouldn't The Rain be either a subsection of Oasis' history section, or a full-fledged section in the article? They're the same band, with just a few different band members. --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄ (background check) 17:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
ImGonnaDJ ( talk) 08:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Should defintely be merged. The article seems to be here more on fan adoration than any real significance to the music world itself. An insignificant article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mewerlack ( talk • contribs) 08:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The fact that the Rain doesn't have a bloke called N.Gallagher in the line-up and this fella wrote all the songs for Oasis until I think the fourth album if I'm right? Seymour and On A Friday don't really compare as there is a significant line-up change when a bloke comes along who writes three albums for a band, off his own bat, that would see that band propelled into superstar status. If the band has a namechange as that happens then yes. Its a different band. The Rain weren't Oasis. Noel wrote for Oasis -- Omar418 ( talk) 01:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
As an aside, the reason The Rain is tagged a "low importance article" of little significance, is because it is, a low importance article... and has nothing to do with Noel Gallagher who is Oasis. Noel Gallagher's sound and content is Oasis' sound and content. The Rain are alien to that. A brief mention of the name use, as is the case, is more than sufficient.-- LisaSandford ( talk) 02:56, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
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Should read; Oasis is an English rock band. Both "Oasis" and "band" are singular. "Are" is plural. Cixelsydon ( talk) 23:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
-- This particular article doesn't have a strong national tie though, as the band is an international band, and arguments elsewhere object to the nationalization of the band. Personally I couldn't care less about that particular argument, I am just pointing it out. However it is not grammatically correct to state Oasis ARE, since it is a singular noun (Oasis, being the name of a singular entity, which is the band) and the word ARE is a plural linking verb, the correct verb should be "is" If you were to use the word ARE in a grammatically correct sense, you would have to change the tense of the word Oasis, which would be Oases, and then the article is no longer accurate because the name of the band has changed. Dsly4425 ( talk) 08:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
The article later says "Oasis played its first live gig in August 1991", which sounds more natural to this Brit. But I really don't care. Maproom ( talk) 17:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't really feel like starting the name debate all over again, but in the article it says "Liam suggested that the band name be changed to Oasis. This change was inspired by an Inspiral Carpets tour poster which hung in the Gallagher brothers' bedroom. One of the venues the poster listed was the Oasis Leisure Centre in Swindon.". Right. I stumbled on an interview where Noel talks about his trainer collection, and he says he got the name from a shop where he used to buy clothes, it's on here.-- 81.247.53.51 ( talk) 16:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Why do the editors of this page remove anything which seems slightly negative toward Oasis even if it is fact?
For example a previous edit said "This song would later carry a co-writer's credit for Neil Innes, who sued, now receives royalties on the song and also won damages because the melody of the title track of Neil Innes' album "How Sweet To Be An Idiot" was plagiarised by Oasis."
The current edit reads "This song would later carry a co-writer's credit for Neil Innes, who sued and also won damages."
The current version doesn't explain why he sued and makes little sence as it is.
The previous edit was not vandalisim but seems to have been removed as if it was. The page should be fact not cencored by Oasis fans to bend or obscure the truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.32.255.195 ( talk) 11:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Easy to respond to that. You advocate a text which states ""How Sweet to Be An Idiot" was plagiarised by Oasis". The outcome of the legal case does not claim that at all. There is no evidence to prove that Noel did anything other then simply write a song that sounded like Innes' tune, without any plagiarism at all. The chord sequence to Innes' song is about two hundred years old at least. Does that mean Innes' plagiarised it? Pop songs are by their market very simple. And it's easy for them to bump into each other, what with there being just eight notes and a simple audience to please. Some people like Innes sue and make a big deal out of it when this happens, whilst most others recognise it as and inevitable consequence of creating easy listening music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.195.247 ( talk) 23:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
If the Proclaimers are a Scottish band the Oasis is an English one. Why be ambiguous when you can be specific! 124.176.75.38 ( talk) 22:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. Can we please stop writing about the bands' split until something official has been brought out. There have been reports and a statement from Noel saying that he has left the band, but so far nothing that confirms that the group have split and are no longer active. Thanks.-- Ike1000 ( talk) 23:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, there is no reason for the line about Noel leaving in the introduction of the band. It seems to just be put in there because somebody 'got there first'. I don't think any other bands have one member highlighted as leaving in the introduction section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.134.166 ( talk) 23:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I am going to change this - Noel has left the band, the band has not split up - yet. They have performed without Noel before on several occasions. -- PMBO ( talk) 23:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Isn't this all a bit premature? Noel has left, but the rest of the band haven't announced that they're packing it in. Noel could be back in a couple of weeks - wouldn't be the first time.-- Michig ( talk) 10:03, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Which one? It is currently "Oasis was" which struck me as odd considering they "was" British. -- can dle • wicke 04:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC) It's 'were'. British band, British English. (I'm a news subeditor) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.245.67 ( talk) 05:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
It shouldn't say 'Noel announced he was leaving the band' as this implies that he will be leaving at a later date. He has left the band, past tense. -- 95.96.146.115 ( talk) 11:58, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Oasis broke up today, that's what I heard —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.155.5.49 ( talk) 15:04, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}}
"Studio Albumus"?
90.197.107.184 (
talk)
05:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
( The Elfoid ( talk) 02:59, 2 September 2009 (UTC))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMf9oYj6uGQ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.57.48.167 ( talk) 06:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
In here about there new guiness world record break, its a pretty impressive achievement but its up to you guys wether you want it to be included in the article
http://www.oasisinet.com/NewsArticle.aspx?n=775
--
Tukogbani (
talk)
07:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I think its worth mentioning but its not up to me —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Digoutyerarse (
talk •
contribs)
06:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Chris should not be included in the members list in any way. He is NOT a member of Oasis. The band even confirmed that. He never even appears with the rest of the band in interviews or videos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WPReader ( talk • contribs) 15:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
In this article it says that Liam smashed Noels guitar in Paris on the night Noel left the band. In fact it was Noel who smashed an acoustic guitar owned by Liam which was given to him by his wife Nicole —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lylasunshine ( talk • contribs) 10:38, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
-Source? -- A Chain of Flowers ( talk) 11:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Its a FACT that Noel Gallagher is not in Oasis , so could you change the members part.Put Noel in the Former Members section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mindier ( talk • contribs) 08:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Is this really expected to last? They've broken up about a dozen times before and gotten right back together again. What makes this any different? Zazaban ( talk) 04:32, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
When have they broken up in the past? It's true Noel has left quite a few times, but this is the first time the group itself has broken up. Kohran ( talk) 17:22, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
When have they officially broken up? Oasis had plenty of in-fights and lots of individual members have quit over the years, but to my knowledge this is the first time the band itself has officially been terminated. Kohran ( talk) 14:01, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Liam is recording a new album with the rest of Oasis (without Noel) but in this article, it says that Zac Starkey is recording with them. Zac left Oasis some time ago and was replaced with Chris Sharrock so surely he is recording instead of Zac. I believe the information that Zac was recording with them came from The Sun so it is probably wrong. Shall I change the article from Zac Starkey to Chris Sharrock? -- Jdbullrat ( talk) 15:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Is that introduction really supposed to suggest that Oasis have sold 50 million albums, physically and a further 20 million either singles or downloads of albums!? Dream on.( Play Brian Moore ( talk) 20:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC))
Who's Harry Wells? I had never heard of him before, and I think Oasis would never play at a "run down waterhole" in a world of warcraft desert. Please erase that sentence —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.49.35.124 ( talk) 03:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi everyone. Please stop with this for the time being.
First off, the band CONFIRMED that Zak Starkey was NOT an official member of Oasis so we can not include him in the list of Oasis band members. Same thing with Chris and Jay, they were never not official members either.
As for the current band. Yes, I know Liam said that both Jay and Chris are currently recording with the current band but Liam said that is NOT 100% yet that the band is going to still be Oasis, therefore, if they do decide to continue as Oasis, then it's best to wait until there's confirmation before we add Chris and Jay as "official" members. —Preceding unsigned comment added by InformationViewer ( talk • contribs) 21:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
No, he said it's still Oasis until they think of something else, at this point, the band includes Chris Sharrock and Jay Darlington. And the upcoming album is still the upcoming Oasis album, until it's confirmed that their name will be something else. Oasis is not a defunct band at this point, and everyone in it is still a current member. Iminrainbows ( talk) 00:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
The lead should be "Oasis is an English rock band". Per Per British and American English differences#Formal and notional agreement, "In BrE, collective nouns can take either singular (formal agreement) or plural (notional agreement) verb forms, according to whether the emphasis is, respectively, on the body as a whole or on the individual members; compare 'a committee was appointed...' with 'the committee were unable to agree....'. The band is a singular formal agreement, as the band members formed the group together in unison and agreement; the sentence refers solely to the band itself, not to the members. Ω pho is 23:58, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I am creating this section for discussion about the recording timeline I created for the band, from now on any edits made to the timeline without discussing it in this section first will be reverted. Iminrainbows ( talk) 02:09, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Zak Starkey I think was considered full-time member of Oasis during recording sessions of Dig Out Your Soul. I also think there was a published picture with Starkey and the band all five clapping. So it is not right to omit him from the band's past member line-up. Actually I am putting Zak Starkey on the offical member list on the template and making sure to keep the status-quo.
He wasn't an official member, and left the band after recording Dig Out Your Soul. Since Alan White's departure, the band were a four-piece.-- Danoasis ( talk) 02:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
There has been much controversy over whether Oasis is over or not, they have now confirmed that Liam's new band will not be called Oasis, therefor marking the end of Oasis. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
Oasis ceased to be Oasis in 2009. Noel left and Liam announced that they would not be carrying on as Oasis. What justification is there for the infobox stating that Oasis were active until 2010?-- Michig ( talk) 15:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I think that theres way too much bias in this article towards recent events. Theres no way that much writing needs to be in place for their distablishment years as its only happened over a period of a few months. It chould be put into perspexctive with the other section of this article: for eg, the disestablishment section (6-7 months time period) is about the same size as the britpop era section (4-5 year time period), that doesnt make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mewerlack ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
If Oasis was originally The Rain, but then changed its name (and a few band members), then shouldn't the two bands be on the same page? Taken from The Rain:
“ | Shortly after Liam joined, the band was renamed Oasis, at his suggestion. | ” |
— The Rain |
If this is indeed true, then shouldn't The Rain be either a subsection of Oasis' history section, or a full-fledged section in the article? They're the same band, with just a few different band members. --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄ (background check) 17:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
ImGonnaDJ ( talk) 08:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Should defintely be merged. The article seems to be here more on fan adoration than any real significance to the music world itself. An insignificant article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mewerlack ( talk • contribs) 08:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The fact that the Rain doesn't have a bloke called N.Gallagher in the line-up and this fella wrote all the songs for Oasis until I think the fourth album if I'm right? Seymour and On A Friday don't really compare as there is a significant line-up change when a bloke comes along who writes three albums for a band, off his own bat, that would see that band propelled into superstar status. If the band has a namechange as that happens then yes. Its a different band. The Rain weren't Oasis. Noel wrote for Oasis -- Omar418 ( talk) 01:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
As an aside, the reason The Rain is tagged a "low importance article" of little significance, is because it is, a low importance article... and has nothing to do with Noel Gallagher who is Oasis. Noel Gallagher's sound and content is Oasis' sound and content. The Rain are alien to that. A brief mention of the name use, as is the case, is more than sufficient.-- LisaSandford ( talk) 02:56, 24 September 2010 (UTC)