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There is a contradiction in this article, it states that he was born in Turkey yet further down it says Iran. According to an interview he stated that he was born in Iran and lived in Turkey. http://web.archive.org/web/20080420214641/http://www.janera.com/janera_words.php?id=44. Which source do we take? The one stating he was born in Iran is from him in an interview the other is stated by the new york times —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.101.93 ( talk) 13:51, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
2602:306:BC65:5FC9:1088:675E:B348:D256 ( talk) 20:41, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
According to this page: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies), his nationality should be mentioned in the first paragraph.-- And Rew 21:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC) - His nationality is not American
I noticed an obvious typo in the first sentence. Rectified it immediately. I kept his nationality the same, though. -- CapitalistOverlord ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:14, 7 September 2011 (UTC).
This article uses far too many quotes. Many of them are unsourced. Sometimes even entire paragraphs are quotes lifted from news articles. I even fixed one quote that was a false attribution. Fortune magazine had written about Roubini, but in this article Fortune's words were attributed to Roubini himself. This article also often uses present tense for quotes that were made in the past, e.g. "Roubini says..." rather than "Roubini said...". Please keep in mind that this is an encyclopedia, not a news article. Go easy on the quotes and make sure that the few quotes you do use are referenced. -- JHP ( talk) 01:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
If one watches TV, one might get the impression that Roubini is one of the most prominent economists of our age. In the acedmic world, his impact is thus far rather moderate, as he is ranked 410 amongst economists they track for citation impact. Is this material pertinent enough for the lead? Mwalla ( talk) 16:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)mwalla
Some recent edits by user 69.177.90.40 appear not well thought out. For instance, they took the following sentence in the lead,
and replaced it with (emphasis added),
Ironically, the reason given in the summary for the edits above were "cleaned up duplicate and advertorial material." Yet the detailed factual material in the original was then replaced by duplicated, non-factual, and essentially meaningless text. It should obviously be fixed.
As a suggestion, major edits that are based on personal interpretations and opinions only, and which remove valid citations and quotes, especially in the bio of a living person should be done with more care and discussed in the talk section first, to avoid such restorations.-- Wikiwatcher1 ( talk) 18:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
An editor has deleted portions of the article containing early interviews by stating, "Janera does not meet NPOV criteria and is not a legitimate publication." This is clearly untrue as Janera is an online magazine with numerous interviews with people from all professions and their purpose is stated:
Another editor, with a similar IP address, has said on this talk page that they were an investment author and have disputed Roubini's opinions by numerous similar deletions in the past. If the same editor is making these changes, that in itself would amount to a violation of NPOV and COI guidelines, and should thereby stop. They may also amount to vandalism.
Suggest that any further mass deletions be discussed first. -- Wikiwatcher1 ( talk) 18:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Is it normal practice in an encyclopedia to draw attention to a non-event? The mention in this article that Roubini has never married is pointless. Does W. have guidelines about such inclusions? Aliotra ( talk) 01:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm changing the color of the title bar to blue as it gives a better contrast to the photo, IMO. Because the photo already gives an orange tint to his face, having an orange bar above accentuates the overall orange tone. Blue, on the other hand, counteracts the orange tint and gives the photo a more neutral tone, by complementing the background blue. This is a BRD edit and some consensus should be allowed before reverting. Please compare and vote.
The NYTimes piece that is already referenced by this article says (these are quotes):
There is an old saying, "a clock that is stopped shows the correct time twice a day", and in the same way, somebody who is always predicting bad will sometimes be right. This wikipedia article only cherrypicks the positive comments; it should talk about both sides of the issue. 71.190.72.157 ( talk) 22:47, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I agree with above. False predictions, theories etc should also be listed. (11Dec2010)
ha ha!
I was logging on to say that the article is pervaded with snide remarks about Roubini obviously written by people who simply disagree with him. That is not NPOV!
Actio ( talk) 17:06, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
This article is so laudatory, it is like an advertisement. Comments are cherry-picked -- by and large, only the positive ones are included. In the lede alone, Roubini is called a "sage" and #2 among the worlds "public intellectuals," #4 of "global thinkers," one of the 100 "most influential people in the world" and a predictor of the economic crisis. Is this an ad for Roubini Global Economics or what? The reality is that these are all just opinions mined from various magazines. Just because something is quoted in a magazine somewhere doesn't mean it should be included in this article. There are opinions all across media that don't need inclusion here. Can this article just stick to facts about this man's life? Is that possible? ask123 ( talk) 18:07, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Please see my comment in the section above Actio ( talk) 17:07, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
I agree with the concerns here. I have added a POV tag. New worl ( talk) 03:34, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
In the English wiki-version Nouriel Roubini was born March 28 in 1959. In the German version he was born March 29 1958. In his own blog he states that he was born in 1958 ( http://nourielroubini.blogspot.de/2012/08/nouriel-roubini-biography-by-himself.html)
Which one is true now? 158.181.83.204 ( talk) 17:06, 25 January 2013 (UTC) IDuEl
Here is a source for 29, which had been replaced by 28 without source ( [1]). -- 79.204.231.82 ( talk) 13:29, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
I have made some Google searches such as "Nouriel Roubini" wrong ( 369.000 results) and "Nouriel Roubini" wrong again (51.900). Here are some notable results ordered by year. Please add more. New worl ( talk) 03:59, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Roubini has been a perma bull on gold as well.
October 2009: Gold Price: 1,069.
Nouriel Roubini: "I don't believe in gold. Gold can go up for only two reasons. [One is] inflation, and we are in a world where there are massive amounts of deflation because of a glut of capacity, and demand is weak. There's slack in the labor markets with unemployment peeking above 10 percent in all the advanced economies. So there's no inflation, and there's not going to be for the time being. The only other case in which gold can go higher, with deflation, is if you have Armageddon, if you have another depression. But we've avoided that tail risk as well. So all the gold bugs who say Gold is going to go to $1500 or $2000, they're just speaking nonsense. Without inflation, or without a depression, there's nowhere for gold to go. Yeah, Gold can go above $1000, but it can't move up 20-30% unless we end up in a world of inflation or another depression. I don't see either of those being likely for the time being. Maybe three or four years from now, yes. But not anytime soon." [2] My comment: From this point Gold went straight up to 1,900, almost 100% gain!. In June 2013 Roubini said gold would drop under $1,000 per ounce. Today it remains 25% above that figure. [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by TWehle ( talk • contribs) 00:19, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Roubini stirred up a few headlines with a series of tweets broadly critical of Bitcoin. Two sources of straight-forward coverage are:
Some articles used the tweets more as a launchpad to cover the issues in more detail. I'm not sure a series of tweets is worthy of mention here, but they are getting reliable source coverage, and that in itself is kind of impressive for an economist outside the government. :-) Agyle ( talk) 15:59, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
The following link from the "Writings" section was removed as not functioning:
This commentary by Roubini may be an interesting insight into his thoughts, but we need a functioning link. Rgdboer ( talk) 02:33, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
I think this page is missing a "see also" section, as almost all wiki pages have (and yes, it is written like advertising, as somebody pointed above). For example, I can provide a list of persons called "Dr.Doom" which are better known, in fact, never heard about this guy till now.Big fan of Peter Schiff here :P (albeit we don't share all the opinions). Joking apart, there have to be a lot of economists there out, with similar views or "results" worth mentioning. LaurV ( talk) 10:25, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
This article has many of the indicia of paid editing. 146.203.129.25 ( talk) 19:22, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
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There is a contradiction in this article, it states that he was born in Turkey yet further down it says Iran. According to an interview he stated that he was born in Iran and lived in Turkey. http://web.archive.org/web/20080420214641/http://www.janera.com/janera_words.php?id=44. Which source do we take? The one stating he was born in Iran is from him in an interview the other is stated by the new york times —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.101.93 ( talk) 13:51, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
2602:306:BC65:5FC9:1088:675E:B348:D256 ( talk) 20:41, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
According to this page: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies), his nationality should be mentioned in the first paragraph.-- And Rew 21:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC) - His nationality is not American
I noticed an obvious typo in the first sentence. Rectified it immediately. I kept his nationality the same, though. -- CapitalistOverlord ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:14, 7 September 2011 (UTC).
This article uses far too many quotes. Many of them are unsourced. Sometimes even entire paragraphs are quotes lifted from news articles. I even fixed one quote that was a false attribution. Fortune magazine had written about Roubini, but in this article Fortune's words were attributed to Roubini himself. This article also often uses present tense for quotes that were made in the past, e.g. "Roubini says..." rather than "Roubini said...". Please keep in mind that this is an encyclopedia, not a news article. Go easy on the quotes and make sure that the few quotes you do use are referenced. -- JHP ( talk) 01:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
If one watches TV, one might get the impression that Roubini is one of the most prominent economists of our age. In the acedmic world, his impact is thus far rather moderate, as he is ranked 410 amongst economists they track for citation impact. Is this material pertinent enough for the lead? Mwalla ( talk) 16:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)mwalla
Some recent edits by user 69.177.90.40 appear not well thought out. For instance, they took the following sentence in the lead,
and replaced it with (emphasis added),
Ironically, the reason given in the summary for the edits above were "cleaned up duplicate and advertorial material." Yet the detailed factual material in the original was then replaced by duplicated, non-factual, and essentially meaningless text. It should obviously be fixed.
As a suggestion, major edits that are based on personal interpretations and opinions only, and which remove valid citations and quotes, especially in the bio of a living person should be done with more care and discussed in the talk section first, to avoid such restorations.-- Wikiwatcher1 ( talk) 18:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
An editor has deleted portions of the article containing early interviews by stating, "Janera does not meet NPOV criteria and is not a legitimate publication." This is clearly untrue as Janera is an online magazine with numerous interviews with people from all professions and their purpose is stated:
Another editor, with a similar IP address, has said on this talk page that they were an investment author and have disputed Roubini's opinions by numerous similar deletions in the past. If the same editor is making these changes, that in itself would amount to a violation of NPOV and COI guidelines, and should thereby stop. They may also amount to vandalism.
Suggest that any further mass deletions be discussed first. -- Wikiwatcher1 ( talk) 18:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Is it normal practice in an encyclopedia to draw attention to a non-event? The mention in this article that Roubini has never married is pointless. Does W. have guidelines about such inclusions? Aliotra ( talk) 01:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm changing the color of the title bar to blue as it gives a better contrast to the photo, IMO. Because the photo already gives an orange tint to his face, having an orange bar above accentuates the overall orange tone. Blue, on the other hand, counteracts the orange tint and gives the photo a more neutral tone, by complementing the background blue. This is a BRD edit and some consensus should be allowed before reverting. Please compare and vote.
The NYTimes piece that is already referenced by this article says (these are quotes):
There is an old saying, "a clock that is stopped shows the correct time twice a day", and in the same way, somebody who is always predicting bad will sometimes be right. This wikipedia article only cherrypicks the positive comments; it should talk about both sides of the issue. 71.190.72.157 ( talk) 22:47, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I agree with above. False predictions, theories etc should also be listed. (11Dec2010)
ha ha!
I was logging on to say that the article is pervaded with snide remarks about Roubini obviously written by people who simply disagree with him. That is not NPOV!
Actio ( talk) 17:06, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
This article is so laudatory, it is like an advertisement. Comments are cherry-picked -- by and large, only the positive ones are included. In the lede alone, Roubini is called a "sage" and #2 among the worlds "public intellectuals," #4 of "global thinkers," one of the 100 "most influential people in the world" and a predictor of the economic crisis. Is this an ad for Roubini Global Economics or what? The reality is that these are all just opinions mined from various magazines. Just because something is quoted in a magazine somewhere doesn't mean it should be included in this article. There are opinions all across media that don't need inclusion here. Can this article just stick to facts about this man's life? Is that possible? ask123 ( talk) 18:07, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Please see my comment in the section above Actio ( talk) 17:07, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
I agree with the concerns here. I have added a POV tag. New worl ( talk) 03:34, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
In the English wiki-version Nouriel Roubini was born March 28 in 1959. In the German version he was born March 29 1958. In his own blog he states that he was born in 1958 ( http://nourielroubini.blogspot.de/2012/08/nouriel-roubini-biography-by-himself.html)
Which one is true now? 158.181.83.204 ( talk) 17:06, 25 January 2013 (UTC) IDuEl
Here is a source for 29, which had been replaced by 28 without source ( [1]). -- 79.204.231.82 ( talk) 13:29, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
I have made some Google searches such as "Nouriel Roubini" wrong ( 369.000 results) and "Nouriel Roubini" wrong again (51.900). Here are some notable results ordered by year. Please add more. New worl ( talk) 03:59, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Roubini has been a perma bull on gold as well.
October 2009: Gold Price: 1,069.
Nouriel Roubini: "I don't believe in gold. Gold can go up for only two reasons. [One is] inflation, and we are in a world where there are massive amounts of deflation because of a glut of capacity, and demand is weak. There's slack in the labor markets with unemployment peeking above 10 percent in all the advanced economies. So there's no inflation, and there's not going to be for the time being. The only other case in which gold can go higher, with deflation, is if you have Armageddon, if you have another depression. But we've avoided that tail risk as well. So all the gold bugs who say Gold is going to go to $1500 or $2000, they're just speaking nonsense. Without inflation, or without a depression, there's nowhere for gold to go. Yeah, Gold can go above $1000, but it can't move up 20-30% unless we end up in a world of inflation or another depression. I don't see either of those being likely for the time being. Maybe three or four years from now, yes. But not anytime soon." [2] My comment: From this point Gold went straight up to 1,900, almost 100% gain!. In June 2013 Roubini said gold would drop under $1,000 per ounce. Today it remains 25% above that figure. [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by TWehle ( talk • contribs) 00:19, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Roubini stirred up a few headlines with a series of tweets broadly critical of Bitcoin. Two sources of straight-forward coverage are:
Some articles used the tweets more as a launchpad to cover the issues in more detail. I'm not sure a series of tweets is worthy of mention here, but they are getting reliable source coverage, and that in itself is kind of impressive for an economist outside the government. :-) Agyle ( talk) 15:59, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
The following link from the "Writings" section was removed as not functioning:
This commentary by Roubini may be an interesting insight into his thoughts, but we need a functioning link. Rgdboer ( talk) 02:33, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
I think this page is missing a "see also" section, as almost all wiki pages have (and yes, it is written like advertising, as somebody pointed above). For example, I can provide a list of persons called "Dr.Doom" which are better known, in fact, never heard about this guy till now.Big fan of Peter Schiff here :P (albeit we don't share all the opinions). Joking apart, there have to be a lot of economists there out, with similar views or "results" worth mentioning. LaurV ( talk) 10:25, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
This article has many of the indicia of paid editing. 146.203.129.25 ( talk) 19:22, 15 January 2023 (UTC)