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The term "Northern Khmer people" is highly controversial within Thailand. The renaming of the article as "Thai-Khmer people", as was first proposed in Wikipedia:WikiProject Thailand in order to avoid controversy, would give it a wider and more neutral scope. There are Thai ethnic Khmer in Trat and Chanthaburi provinces who are technically not Northern Khmer. Moreover, the term "Northern Khmer" is not used in all the pertinent literature, for scholarly works produced in Universities in Thailand about the ethnic Khmer in the country avoid that term for its political connotations. And one should be careful not to sideline these works for some are produced by ethnic Khmer in Thailand themselves.
Thereby the naming of the article as "Northern Khmer people" is not neutral. For example, the Swiss-German people are technically "Southern Germans", but using that term referring to them would have great, and highly controversial, political implications within Switzerland.( Xufanc ( talk) 02:30, 3 September 2011 (UTC))
This isn't a neutrality or POV dispute, it is a naming issue, and one that has had no input for two years. I am therefore removing the pov tag and listing the page on Requested moves for a name to "Thai Khmer People." Whatever the Thai and Cambodian project arguments may be worth, this is the English wikipedia and the most commonly-used term within the English scientific literature should apply. Google Scholar and other large-sample scholarly databases have a paucity of references to any Northern Khmer people as an ethnic or linguistic group. By contrast, Thai Khmer has multiple usages. Eggishorn ( talk) 22:56, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus. -- BDD ( talk) 17:36, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Northern Khmer people → Thai Khmer People – Per WP:ETHNICGROUP, Thai Khmer has more scholarly usage than Northern Khmer in English-language journal articles. Relisted. BDD ( talk) 19:37, 9 October 2013 (UTC) Eggishorn ( talk) 23:08, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Strong Oppose see my explanation above.-- William Thweatt Talk Contribs 02:30, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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The term "Northern Khmer people" is highly controversial within Thailand. The renaming of the article as "Thai-Khmer people", as was first proposed in Wikipedia:WikiProject Thailand in order to avoid controversy, would give it a wider and more neutral scope. There are Thai ethnic Khmer in Trat and Chanthaburi provinces who are technically not Northern Khmer. Moreover, the term "Northern Khmer" is not used in all the pertinent literature, for scholarly works produced in Universities in Thailand about the ethnic Khmer in the country avoid that term for its political connotations. And one should be careful not to sideline these works for some are produced by ethnic Khmer in Thailand themselves.
Thereby the naming of the article as "Northern Khmer people" is not neutral. For example, the Swiss-German people are technically "Southern Germans", but using that term referring to them would have great, and highly controversial, political implications within Switzerland.( Xufanc ( talk) 02:30, 3 September 2011 (UTC))
This isn't a neutrality or POV dispute, it is a naming issue, and one that has had no input for two years. I am therefore removing the pov tag and listing the page on Requested moves for a name to "Thai Khmer People." Whatever the Thai and Cambodian project arguments may be worth, this is the English wikipedia and the most commonly-used term within the English scientific literature should apply. Google Scholar and other large-sample scholarly databases have a paucity of references to any Northern Khmer people as an ethnic or linguistic group. By contrast, Thai Khmer has multiple usages. Eggishorn ( talk) 22:56, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus. -- BDD ( talk) 17:36, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Northern Khmer people → Thai Khmer People – Per WP:ETHNICGROUP, Thai Khmer has more scholarly usage than Northern Khmer in English-language journal articles. Relisted. BDD ( talk) 19:37, 9 October 2013 (UTC) Eggishorn ( talk) 23:08, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Strong Oppose see my explanation above.-- William Thweatt Talk Contribs 02:30, 29 September 2013 (UTC)