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What is the HQ of this county? --Maddawg1967--
I remember being sent literature regarding possible alterations to North Yorkshire in the early 90s. Among various options included Hambleton, Craven, Richmondshire and Harrogate districts to secede and become 'The Dales Council' and with the rump North Yorkshire to revert to 'North Riding'. Another option was for Lanbaugh district (then Cleveland) and the old East Riding of Yorkshire to merge with North Yorkshire to form an even bigger county. Nothing came of it but worth a mention I'd have thought.15:20, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I've found my original maps and references, and will be adding it to the History of local government in Yorkshire article. I've added the link, I'm now off to add the detail.
BTW, I can't find anything about Langbaugh leaving the former Cleveland collection of councils. Jgharston ( talk) 19:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
The education section has been marked as being in a tone not appropriate for an encyclopedia. The single sentence is, "North Yorkshire LEA has a mostly comprehensive education system with 42 state schools... and 12 independent schools..." I believe that the person who flagged the section misunderstood the sentence as meaning "North Yorkshire has a mostly thorough education system" rather than "North Yorkshire has an education system based around comprehensive schools", where "comprehensive school" is single school catering to pupils of all academic abilities. I believe that the link in the sentence makes this clear enough so I have deleted the "inappropriate tone" tag. Dricherby ( talk) 21:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
The article requires details of the political structure adding together with details of the recent European election & County council election. Keith D ( talk) 12:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
A Google search revealed that Whernside is either 704m or 736m, depending on the website quoted. Does anyone know the real height of Whernside? Michael Glass ( talk) 14:13, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
The 1:25,000 Ordnance Survey figure is 736 m. It has a trig point, so I have no doubt that it is the definitive height. Great Whernside, between Wharfedale and Nidderdale is 704 m high. There is a well-researched list of peaks in the Yorkshire Dales with their heights at List_of_peaks_in_the_Yorkshire_Dales -- Langcliffe ( talk) 06:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that clarification. Michael Glass ( talk) 03:42, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I have checked the alleged source for this statement, and it shows that nowhere in Yorkshire is the average number of days of (lying) snow more than 18. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.172.13.220 ( talk) 11:18, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
I have double-checked and according to the Met Office website snow lies for a maximum of between 45 and 70 days a year in those locations. I think that your error was that you looked at a specific month rather than the annual total. Anyway, I have corrected the page to reflect the Met Office figures. -- Langcliffe ( talk) 20:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
The "Economy" section presents a chart (sic; actually it's a table) of something called "regional gross value added at current basic prices". A reference directs the reader to an ONS PDF document containing (with no explanation) this information. As a ref it's perfect, referring as it does to an official ONS report. As useful information it's as much use as a chocolate fireguard, giving as it does no clue at all what "regional gross value added" may be.
WP has no article on this thing, and a quick Google search throws up many instances of documents detailing it without explaining it. Given that this section merely contains an inaccurately-described (it's a table, not a chart) of inxeplicable (or at least unexplained) numbers, does it have any place in the article? I propose to delete the "Economy" section on 17th April 2011 unless it is improved before then. Tonywalton Talk 23:58, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
I am NOT an economist, but as far as I know the GVA is a way of measuring the sum of incomes earned from the production of goods and services in the region using methodologies determined by the EU which allows comparison of economic growth across the EU. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/downloads/theme_economy/ET627.pdf has a helpful section on this together with fuller references. As I am not an economist, I have no intention of modifying the section, and have no vested interest in whether it is kept or deleted. -- Langcliffe ( talk) 06:24, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
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Im afraid I have to disagree with this statement as the largest settlement within the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire is Middlesbrough. As of 2011, the York urban area had a population of 137,505 whereas the population of Middlesbrough was 138,700 and that's not even taking into account the larger urban area of Middlesbrough which extends beyond the authority. The local government district of the City of York is larger however with around 200,000 people, but covers a much larger area than York itself so i feel the statement is misleading saying its the largest settlement. Maybe its the largest town in 'true' Yorkshire as many people up here (hailing from the Middlesbrough area myself) are mixed when it comes to the Yorkshire identity (Acklamite) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.136.58 ( talk) 19:41, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
"The York urban area had a population of 137,505 [1] comprising 66,142 males and 71,363 females in 2001. Also at the time of the 2001 UK census, the City of York had a total population of 181,094 of whom 93,957 were female and 87,137 were male"
( Acklamite ( talk) 18:11, 15 March 2013 (UTC))
Request to put on Bus routes due to List of bus routes in North Yorkshire being proposed for deletion and the information to be put on to this instead although links can be provided so it links up this stopping deletion DF2 ( talk) 20:50, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Is anybody working on a 1974 formation map in the style of, for example: South Yorkshire 1974? If not, I've got the maps, and can do it. Jgharston ( talk) 13:18, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
The list omits Ingleby Barwick which is wholly within North Yorkshire witha population of 19,600 [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.63.199 ( talk) 08:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
What is a settlement? Is it not an urban area as oppose to an administrative structure i.e. a borough? Well in terms of this article its clear its about urban area so why does the article use figures for the Built-up Areas of every settlement except the Middlesbrough area which doesnt show the settlement of Middlesbrough but uses the figures for its district? Why has the article been changed back to put York as the largest settlement, this is simply and obviously not the case. Middlesbrough is clearly a larger settlement than York and here's why...It is a more populous sub-division! The Middlesbrough BUASD (Thats Built-up Area Sub-division) which defines urban areas or Settlements in the UK has a population of 174,700, whereas the York BUA (Built-up Area) which is made up from the York Sub-division and the Earswick Sub-division has 153,717!! Middlesbrough's population as a settlement / Built-up Area is 174,700, not 138,400 which represents the district which is not what the article is referring to at all. Why does it use the population figure for the smaller council area when the article isn't even talking about the administrative area its talking about the settlement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.29.38.253 ( talk) 18:34, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
"...settlements are "a city, town, village, or other agglomeration of buildings where people live and work." [1]
The important part of that excerpt in this case is "agglomeration, which the Middlesbrough BUASD is and so has nothing to do with council areas at all. Middlesbrough is clearly the largest Settlement within the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire, I will try to put it into a bit more perspective;
As a settlement, Middlesbrough has 174,700 and York has 153,717. Its blatantly obvious which settlement is the largest!!
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This article claims a population over 1million but these Web sites indicate around 600,000
North Yorkshire has a resident population of 604,900 http://reports.esd.org.uk/reports/15?pa=E10000023%3AAdministrativeWard
The population of North Yorkshire has increased steadily from 570,100 in 2001 to 602,300 in 2015, a growth of around 5.6%. https://datanorthyorkshire.org/JSNA/articles/population-in-north-yorkshire/
North Yorkshire has a population of around 602,300 (ONS mid-2015 population estimate). https://www.northyorks.gov.uk/north-yorkshire-population-information
Peter K Burian ( talk) 19:47, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Just a note to be a reminder, at some point in 2018 the map needs to be updated to paint the A1 blue along its whole length. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.74.15 ( talk) 23:06, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
For some reason, I cannot find Population when I am in Edit mode.
The box says over 1 million but it's not that high! Can you help me fix this @ User:Vaselineeeeeeee or @ User:Keith D
North Yorkshire has a population of around 604,900 (ONS mid-2016 population estimate). Harrogate has around 75,070 residents and Scarborough around 52,100. https://www.northyorks.gov.uk/north-yorkshire-population-information
Peter K Burian ( talk) 01:12, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
I believe the flag to be unofficial.
So what to do with it, I guess leave it off.
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I didn’t add it myself. I have looked for some references to put it on as it identifies the area but haven’t found any yet. I put it here for others to help. Chocolateediter ( talk) 16:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
^the directly above text is not mine it’s unsigned.
I have noticed the flag is a copy of the proper unofficial flag, it should be deleted and the page redirected to the proper unofficial flag file:
-this file (File:Unofficial county flag of North Yorkshire.svg) specifically states that the flag should not to represent the county, tell Italy Wiki that as they have it on every North Yorkshire town article.
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- now this flag has appeared, this even has unofficial in the name of the file.
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Does this happen often or just Yorkshire. Chocolateediter ( talk) 00:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
"North Yorkshire" can refer to two different entities - the ceremonial county and the area served by North Yorkshire Council. In law the "County of North Yorkshire" is the area now served by North Yorkshire Council. It was and technically remains a "non-metropolitan county" - it is the districts which have been abolished. [1] No-one refers to the unitary authority area as "North Yorkshire District", so WP should avoid that term - the council refers to it as plain "North Yorkshire". The lead cannot say "North Yorkshire is a ....unitary authority area" and then say "The county has five unitary authority areas" without explaining that "North Yorkshire" is used in two different senses.
The best I can think of is to refer to the wider area as the "ceremonial county" and the narrower area as the "North Yorkshire unitary authority area"-- Mhockey ( talk) 22:17, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
I don’t want counties to start always having multiple images, county infoboxes are quite long. Having one to deal with comes the many and the long discussions about each picture. Please can we stick with one. I've already had to start looking at regional collages, full 6 to 8 ones, because somebody added them. Chocolateediter ( talk) 20:01, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
@ Chocolateediter. If I can get straight into it, what's your aim with the infobox images? The collage as it was contained three high-quality images which represented Middlesbrough and two of the county's distinctive landscapes, which (if I can say so myself) work particularly well together. I'm therefore not sure it really needs changing. A.D.Hope ( talk) 18:47, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
I don't think a particular set of images should be set in stone. There's always going to be disagreement on the 'best' way to portray a county. It may even be better to have no images, if selection is causing squabbling, and keep relevant ones confined to the text. I'm seeing a tendency with some editors to pictorialise Wikipedia articles. Suggest contributors to this discussion take on board the points in
MOS:LEADIMAGE especially Lead images should be natural and appropriate representations of the topic; they should not only illustrate the topic specifically, but also be the type of image used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works, and therefore what our readers will expect to see. Lead images are not required, and not having a lead image may be the best solution if there is no easy representation of the topic
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Producing a decent collage is fun but like much on Wikipedia, time-consuming, so if my comments above came across as dismissive of previous attempts, I apologise. Anyway, had a go at my first collage — all comments welcome, including criticism. The York Minster image I slightly cropped, enhanced and reuploaded, the other two are as is. Compare my attempt with this collage by Chocolateediter and this collage by A.D.Hope. Rupples ( talk) 02:29, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
@ Chocolateediter, Murgatroyd49, PamD, and Rupples: Unfortunately the discussion has stalled, and these recent edits [5] [6] demonstrate that the infobox collage still isn't stable. To try and reach a broad consensus I'll ask again for input at the UK Geography and North Yorkshire projects, and at England.
I think a fair summary of the discussion thusfar is that Ribblehead Viaduct is popular and should be included, but the other images are still up for debate. A.D.Hope ( talk) 10:04, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
These are the proposals made so far, incuding two (E and F) I've made up today. While three images is currently the convention for county articles, the size of North Yorkshire may justify the use of four images in this case (and is in line with the UK:COUNTIES guideline. A.D.Hope ( talk) 11:18, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The joy of all things at the Yorkshire WikiProject has come up trumps and we now have a couple of sunny day photo of the Middlesbrough Transporter Bridge from the approximate same angle. I think the second image (05) is my preference but what do others think @ Rupples, A.D.Hope, and Murgatroyd49:. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:42, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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What is the HQ of this county? --Maddawg1967--
I remember being sent literature regarding possible alterations to North Yorkshire in the early 90s. Among various options included Hambleton, Craven, Richmondshire and Harrogate districts to secede and become 'The Dales Council' and with the rump North Yorkshire to revert to 'North Riding'. Another option was for Lanbaugh district (then Cleveland) and the old East Riding of Yorkshire to merge with North Yorkshire to form an even bigger county. Nothing came of it but worth a mention I'd have thought.15:20, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I've found my original maps and references, and will be adding it to the History of local government in Yorkshire article. I've added the link, I'm now off to add the detail.
BTW, I can't find anything about Langbaugh leaving the former Cleveland collection of councils. Jgharston ( talk) 19:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
The education section has been marked as being in a tone not appropriate for an encyclopedia. The single sentence is, "North Yorkshire LEA has a mostly comprehensive education system with 42 state schools... and 12 independent schools..." I believe that the person who flagged the section misunderstood the sentence as meaning "North Yorkshire has a mostly thorough education system" rather than "North Yorkshire has an education system based around comprehensive schools", where "comprehensive school" is single school catering to pupils of all academic abilities. I believe that the link in the sentence makes this clear enough so I have deleted the "inappropriate tone" tag. Dricherby ( talk) 21:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
The article requires details of the political structure adding together with details of the recent European election & County council election. Keith D ( talk) 12:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
A Google search revealed that Whernside is either 704m or 736m, depending on the website quoted. Does anyone know the real height of Whernside? Michael Glass ( talk) 14:13, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
The 1:25,000 Ordnance Survey figure is 736 m. It has a trig point, so I have no doubt that it is the definitive height. Great Whernside, between Wharfedale and Nidderdale is 704 m high. There is a well-researched list of peaks in the Yorkshire Dales with their heights at List_of_peaks_in_the_Yorkshire_Dales -- Langcliffe ( talk) 06:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that clarification. Michael Glass ( talk) 03:42, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I have checked the alleged source for this statement, and it shows that nowhere in Yorkshire is the average number of days of (lying) snow more than 18. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.172.13.220 ( talk) 11:18, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
I have double-checked and according to the Met Office website snow lies for a maximum of between 45 and 70 days a year in those locations. I think that your error was that you looked at a specific month rather than the annual total. Anyway, I have corrected the page to reflect the Met Office figures. -- Langcliffe ( talk) 20:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
The "Economy" section presents a chart (sic; actually it's a table) of something called "regional gross value added at current basic prices". A reference directs the reader to an ONS PDF document containing (with no explanation) this information. As a ref it's perfect, referring as it does to an official ONS report. As useful information it's as much use as a chocolate fireguard, giving as it does no clue at all what "regional gross value added" may be.
WP has no article on this thing, and a quick Google search throws up many instances of documents detailing it without explaining it. Given that this section merely contains an inaccurately-described (it's a table, not a chart) of inxeplicable (or at least unexplained) numbers, does it have any place in the article? I propose to delete the "Economy" section on 17th April 2011 unless it is improved before then. Tonywalton Talk 23:58, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
I am NOT an economist, but as far as I know the GVA is a way of measuring the sum of incomes earned from the production of goods and services in the region using methodologies determined by the EU which allows comparison of economic growth across the EU. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/downloads/theme_economy/ET627.pdf has a helpful section on this together with fuller references. As I am not an economist, I have no intention of modifying the section, and have no vested interest in whether it is kept or deleted. -- Langcliffe ( talk) 06:24, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
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Im afraid I have to disagree with this statement as the largest settlement within the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire is Middlesbrough. As of 2011, the York urban area had a population of 137,505 whereas the population of Middlesbrough was 138,700 and that's not even taking into account the larger urban area of Middlesbrough which extends beyond the authority. The local government district of the City of York is larger however with around 200,000 people, but covers a much larger area than York itself so i feel the statement is misleading saying its the largest settlement. Maybe its the largest town in 'true' Yorkshire as many people up here (hailing from the Middlesbrough area myself) are mixed when it comes to the Yorkshire identity (Acklamite) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.136.58 ( talk) 19:41, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
"The York urban area had a population of 137,505 [1] comprising 66,142 males and 71,363 females in 2001. Also at the time of the 2001 UK census, the City of York had a total population of 181,094 of whom 93,957 were female and 87,137 were male"
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Is anybody working on a 1974 formation map in the style of, for example: South Yorkshire 1974? If not, I've got the maps, and can do it. Jgharston ( talk) 13:18, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
The list omits Ingleby Barwick which is wholly within North Yorkshire witha population of 19,600 [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.63.199 ( talk) 08:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
What is a settlement? Is it not an urban area as oppose to an administrative structure i.e. a borough? Well in terms of this article its clear its about urban area so why does the article use figures for the Built-up Areas of every settlement except the Middlesbrough area which doesnt show the settlement of Middlesbrough but uses the figures for its district? Why has the article been changed back to put York as the largest settlement, this is simply and obviously not the case. Middlesbrough is clearly a larger settlement than York and here's why...It is a more populous sub-division! The Middlesbrough BUASD (Thats Built-up Area Sub-division) which defines urban areas or Settlements in the UK has a population of 174,700, whereas the York BUA (Built-up Area) which is made up from the York Sub-division and the Earswick Sub-division has 153,717!! Middlesbrough's population as a settlement / Built-up Area is 174,700, not 138,400 which represents the district which is not what the article is referring to at all. Why does it use the population figure for the smaller council area when the article isn't even talking about the administrative area its talking about the settlement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.29.38.253 ( talk) 18:34, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
"...settlements are "a city, town, village, or other agglomeration of buildings where people live and work." [1]
The important part of that excerpt in this case is "agglomeration, which the Middlesbrough BUASD is and so has nothing to do with council areas at all. Middlesbrough is clearly the largest Settlement within the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire, I will try to put it into a bit more perspective;
As a settlement, Middlesbrough has 174,700 and York has 153,717. Its blatantly obvious which settlement is the largest!!
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This article claims a population over 1million but these Web sites indicate around 600,000
North Yorkshire has a resident population of 604,900 http://reports.esd.org.uk/reports/15?pa=E10000023%3AAdministrativeWard
The population of North Yorkshire has increased steadily from 570,100 in 2001 to 602,300 in 2015, a growth of around 5.6%. https://datanorthyorkshire.org/JSNA/articles/population-in-north-yorkshire/
North Yorkshire has a population of around 602,300 (ONS mid-2015 population estimate). https://www.northyorks.gov.uk/north-yorkshire-population-information
Peter K Burian ( talk) 19:47, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Just a note to be a reminder, at some point in 2018 the map needs to be updated to paint the A1 blue along its whole length. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.74.15 ( talk) 23:06, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
For some reason, I cannot find Population when I am in Edit mode.
The box says over 1 million but it's not that high! Can you help me fix this @ User:Vaselineeeeeeee or @ User:Keith D
North Yorkshire has a population of around 604,900 (ONS mid-2016 population estimate). Harrogate has around 75,070 residents and Scarborough around 52,100. https://www.northyorks.gov.uk/north-yorkshire-population-information
Peter K Burian ( talk) 01:12, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
I believe the flag to be unofficial.
So what to do with it, I guess leave it off.
Chocolateediter (
talk) 22:03, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
I didn’t add it myself. I have looked for some references to put it on as it identifies the area but haven’t found any yet. I put it here for others to help. Chocolateediter ( talk) 16:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
^the directly above text is not mine it’s unsigned.
I have noticed the flag is a copy of the proper unofficial flag, it should be deleted and the page redirected to the proper unofficial flag file:
-this file (File:Unofficial county flag of North Yorkshire.svg) specifically states that the flag should not to represent the county, tell Italy Wiki that as they have it on every North Yorkshire town article.
Chocolateediter (
talk) 02:58, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- now this flag has appeared, this even has unofficial in the name of the file.
Chocolateediter (
talk) 14:52, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Does this happen often or just Yorkshire. Chocolateediter ( talk) 00:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
"North Yorkshire" can refer to two different entities - the ceremonial county and the area served by North Yorkshire Council. In law the "County of North Yorkshire" is the area now served by North Yorkshire Council. It was and technically remains a "non-metropolitan county" - it is the districts which have been abolished. [1] No-one refers to the unitary authority area as "North Yorkshire District", so WP should avoid that term - the council refers to it as plain "North Yorkshire". The lead cannot say "North Yorkshire is a ....unitary authority area" and then say "The county has five unitary authority areas" without explaining that "North Yorkshire" is used in two different senses.
The best I can think of is to refer to the wider area as the "ceremonial county" and the narrower area as the "North Yorkshire unitary authority area"-- Mhockey ( talk) 22:17, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
I don’t want counties to start always having multiple images, county infoboxes are quite long. Having one to deal with comes the many and the long discussions about each picture. Please can we stick with one. I've already had to start looking at regional collages, full 6 to 8 ones, because somebody added them. Chocolateediter ( talk) 20:01, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
@ Chocolateediter. If I can get straight into it, what's your aim with the infobox images? The collage as it was contained three high-quality images which represented Middlesbrough and two of the county's distinctive landscapes, which (if I can say so myself) work particularly well together. I'm therefore not sure it really needs changing. A.D.Hope ( talk) 18:47, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
I don't think a particular set of images should be set in stone. There's always going to be disagreement on the 'best' way to portray a county. It may even be better to have no images, if selection is causing squabbling, and keep relevant ones confined to the text. I'm seeing a tendency with some editors to pictorialise Wikipedia articles. Suggest contributors to this discussion take on board the points in
MOS:LEADIMAGE especially Lead images should be natural and appropriate representations of the topic; they should not only illustrate the topic specifically, but also be the type of image used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works, and therefore what our readers will expect to see. Lead images are not required, and not having a lead image may be the best solution if there is no easy representation of the topic
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Producing a decent collage is fun but like much on Wikipedia, time-consuming, so if my comments above came across as dismissive of previous attempts, I apologise. Anyway, had a go at my first collage — all comments welcome, including criticism. The York Minster image I slightly cropped, enhanced and reuploaded, the other two are as is. Compare my attempt with this collage by Chocolateediter and this collage by A.D.Hope. Rupples ( talk) 02:29, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
@ Chocolateediter, Murgatroyd49, PamD, and Rupples: Unfortunately the discussion has stalled, and these recent edits [5] [6] demonstrate that the infobox collage still isn't stable. To try and reach a broad consensus I'll ask again for input at the UK Geography and North Yorkshire projects, and at England.
I think a fair summary of the discussion thusfar is that Ribblehead Viaduct is popular and should be included, but the other images are still up for debate. A.D.Hope ( talk) 10:04, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
These are the proposals made so far, incuding two (E and F) I've made up today. While three images is currently the convention for county articles, the size of North Yorkshire may justify the use of four images in this case (and is in line with the UK:COUNTIES guideline. A.D.Hope ( talk) 11:18, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The joy of all things at the Yorkshire WikiProject has come up trumps and we now have a couple of sunny day photo of the Middlesbrough Transporter Bridge from the approximate same angle. I think the second image (05) is my preference but what do others think @ Rupples, A.D.Hope, and Murgatroyd49:. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:42, 13 September 2023 (UTC)