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The result of the move request was: Moved to Raid on the North Korean embassy in Madrid. ( closed by non-admin page mover) B dash ( talk) 13:11, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Raid on North Korea's embassy in Madrid → ? – The article primary editor hinted that the present title may not be the right one for this article. I share that sentiment but could not come up with the most suitable title myself, hence this request. –
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Hey, Overall the prose is good, but unfortunately there is only one image, which I don't think is enough to adquately address the relevant topics. Instead, try putting images (mugshots) of the raiders, the flag of the movement, and the building itself would help a lot.
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When reading through the article after this was listed as a GA, I noticed some prose infelicities and started doing some copyediting—these were the sort of issues, such as missing words and incomplete sentences, that are normally raised and fixed in the course of a GAN review, but weren't here. I found a bit more than I bargained for, so I have made a request at the Guild of Copy Editors for a full copyedit; the expectation is that once they're done, the article will meet the "well written" part of the GA criteria, since it doesn't yet do so. BlueMoonset ( talk) 07:10, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
@ BlueMoonset: Can this be unreviewed and put back in the GA queue? It's a little late, but I've only just noticed that—since we last discussed this review—the nominator has been blocked as a sock of User:DeepNikita. G4 is no longer available for the page, but I'm not particularly happy about a sock giving me credit for anything, to be honest. —— SN 54129 00:50, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
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I am proposing to rename this article to better achieve neutrality and guard against misinformation/reaching conclusions without solid evidence. The new name would be "2019 North Korean Embassy in Madrid Incident".
Firstly, the nature of the event has been shrouded in mystery since the beginning, with various conflicting reports emerging. Parties to this so called "conflict" are formatted as if they were belligerents; North Korea claimed this was a terrorist attack while Free Joseon claimed it was not a raid, but that they were invited in by an insider to attempt a defection.
Recent investigative journalism gives plausibility to Free Joseon's characterization of the incident, and so it should be stated as a possibility. See here: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/23/the-underground-movement-trying-to-topple-the-north-korean-regime
The truth is, we don't fully know if it was a raid, so to call it an incident would be more appropriate.
72Marlin27 ( talk) 19:51, 18 November 2020 (UTC)— 72Marlin27 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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Clockwork efficiency of the raid minus casualties .... no political demands .... stealing of Computers (same as Osama Abbottabad Raid) ... all point in the direction of company.
Assets gone rogue with blooming Trump~Kim relationship
So many embassies have been stormed raided ... Commonality : Destruction of Property / Casualties to keep Local Enforcement out/ Political Demands to justify the raid.
And NO there is element of truth regarding EX Intelligence DPRK that explains Clockwork Efficiency, of infill & subjugation of Embassy Staff... DPRK Expats lack funds and expertise to pull the raid and "more importantly" EXFIL successful (Keep in mind most embassy sieges end up a bloody mess) Company assets gone rogue ....
Ex Marine was an asset for the Agency given, Free Joeson maybe a front for Black Ops 103.178.144.60 ( talk) 05:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved to Raid on the North Korean embassy in Madrid. ( closed by non-admin page mover) B dash ( talk) 13:11, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Raid on North Korea's embassy in Madrid → ? – The article primary editor hinted that the present title may not be the right one for this article. I share that sentiment but could not come up with the most suitable title myself, hence this request. –
Ammarpad (
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Hey, Overall the prose is good, but unfortunately there is only one image, which I don't think is enough to adquately address the relevant topics. Instead, try putting images (mugshots) of the raiders, the flag of the movement, and the building itself would help a lot.
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Overall: |
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When reading through the article after this was listed as a GA, I noticed some prose infelicities and started doing some copyediting—these were the sort of issues, such as missing words and incomplete sentences, that are normally raised and fixed in the course of a GAN review, but weren't here. I found a bit more than I bargained for, so I have made a request at the Guild of Copy Editors for a full copyedit; the expectation is that once they're done, the article will meet the "well written" part of the GA criteria, since it doesn't yet do so. BlueMoonset ( talk) 07:10, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
@ BlueMoonset: Can this be unreviewed and put back in the GA queue? It's a little late, but I've only just noticed that—since we last discussed this review—the nominator has been blocked as a sock of User:DeepNikita. G4 is no longer available for the page, but I'm not particularly happy about a sock giving me credit for anything, to be honest. —— SN 54129 00:50, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 16:54, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
I am proposing to rename this article to better achieve neutrality and guard against misinformation/reaching conclusions without solid evidence. The new name would be "2019 North Korean Embassy in Madrid Incident".
Firstly, the nature of the event has been shrouded in mystery since the beginning, with various conflicting reports emerging. Parties to this so called "conflict" are formatted as if they were belligerents; North Korea claimed this was a terrorist attack while Free Joseon claimed it was not a raid, but that they were invited in by an insider to attempt a defection.
Recent investigative journalism gives plausibility to Free Joseon's characterization of the incident, and so it should be stated as a possibility. See here: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/23/the-underground-movement-trying-to-topple-the-north-korean-regime
The truth is, we don't fully know if it was a raid, so to call it an incident would be more appropriate.
72Marlin27 ( talk) 19:51, 18 November 2020 (UTC)— 72Marlin27 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
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Clockwork efficiency of the raid minus casualties .... no political demands .... stealing of Computers (same as Osama Abbottabad Raid) ... all point in the direction of company.
Assets gone rogue with blooming Trump~Kim relationship
So many embassies have been stormed raided ... Commonality : Destruction of Property / Casualties to keep Local Enforcement out/ Political Demands to justify the raid.
And NO there is element of truth regarding EX Intelligence DPRK that explains Clockwork Efficiency, of infill & subjugation of Embassy Staff... DPRK Expats lack funds and expertise to pull the raid and "more importantly" EXFIL successful (Keep in mind most embassy sieges end up a bloody mess) Company assets gone rogue ....
Ex Marine was an asset for the Agency given, Free Joeson maybe a front for Black Ops 103.178.144.60 ( talk) 05:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)