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If Cabello and Jauregui can have their stand alone articles then so should Kordei. She is just as notable if not more notable than the said members with articles. This article needs to stay in tact and I need help coming up with reliable sources. Welcome tothenew millennium 22:37, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Welcometothenewmillenium, while I appreciate your enthusiasm for working on this topic, the newest version is nearly identical to the pre-redirect version. While I have no issues with this article being recreated, please send it through the Draft / AFC process so that it can be reviewed by other editors to ensure it has overcome the issues presented in the deletion discussion. Primefac ( talk) 11:52, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
It seems reasonable to question why this article is still being redirected, so I'll add my voice to questioning it. While there's not a great deal of depth to it, I'm seeing at least two secondary sources in the linked Draft that specifically cover the subject, which is the criteria for notability for Wikipedia. (Digital Spy isn't the best source but two articles on Billboard are solid, and one of those deals with her Dancing With the Stars appearance that happened after the AfD, meaning it's a source added beyond the decision of that AfD). Very quick glances at Google show 3.2M followers on Instagram and articles on People, Eonline, Us Magazine and The Mirror about various celebrity minutia...and many of these articles are AFTER that AfD closed. I recommend involved editors apply better sourcing and review the criteria for this article's independent existence.
The members of this music group are new to notability quick makes it reasonable to question such status, but it's contemporary and subject to change so Wikipedia should likewise adapt to said changes. - Markeer 23:58, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
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I'm asking in favor for Normani Kordei's page to be active and published for the Following reasons.
She was a finalist on Dancing with the Stars and placed third on the competition show. She has been featured in movies and tv shows. She has released her own music and dance videos. She lots of citable information regarding her mother's cancer and her family being Cancer ambassadors and legal troubles. She has lots of coverage of her history with gymnastics and has competed at an elite level. She is currently working on future projects that are still in the process of being released. She has been linked to notable celebrities She has made massive media coverage over cyber bullying and lots of citation of her talking about in articles, magazines, new papers, talk shows and news reports. Please take all my comments into consideration asking politely. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 01:29, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
I was hoping someone could upload an image to the artist article. I would but I'm not good at uploading pictures. I'm looking for help from other users to do so. I'm giving anyone permission to do so. I want her to have a profile image to make her stand out even more! Please upload a good one and one that is in high quality! Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 19:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
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requesting for her page to be protected! Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 00:39, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
What are the questionable edits that I have made are you stating that I'm the only one vandalizing or participating in the source? Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 18:20, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
In future references I will make sure that my edits are more precise and my citation are linked correctly .. I would however look into other edits made by other users as well. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 04:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
I've noticed multiple counts of vandalism to Kordei's page. I'm in favor of requesting another semi-protection
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for her page! Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 23:59, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
I took your advice of posting a request in Wikipedia:Requests for page protection ... and created a discussion page for it too! Wikipedia:Articles for Semi-Protection/Normani Kordei/Dinah Jane Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 10:49, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 22:43, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
I am of the opinion that the table of how well Kordei did on DWTS is rather trivial and somewhat undue, given the relatively small size of the page. If someone wants to know the minutiae of how she did they should check out the main season page. If there is no consensus against it I will be removing the table. Primefac ( talk) 23:15, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Plus also on a side note I just want to point out only in my opinion ... I feel as though this here artist Normani Kordei is the most debatable article out of all the members and past members of the group. Her page has been reverted several times even after she gained notability. Extremely underrated in my opinion because credit is not due to her in my opinion. When creating or posting information about Ms. Hamilton we have to fight and talked about it because we feel as though some people have a problem with or are bothered by it? I know that I'm leading off from the topic of conversation but it's still something to think about as well. That's all I just laid about my thoughts and opinion on stuff. You can choose to agree or disagree I just want to hear your thoughts on other auto-confirmed users as well! Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 09:34, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
She's not famous like Zendaya or Kim Kardashian also that's a bad reason from a WikiUser to use as a response. To compare other notable people to other notable people. This article is not about Zendaya or Kim Kardashian. This article is about Normani we are focusing on Normani and only Normani! What difference does it make if her table stays or leaves. She was a contestant on Dancing with the Stars that is factual. She did make it to the finale and land in third place there's another known fact. Dancing with the Stars was one of the highlights of her career. It is not bad to mention and keep the table or not. Here's my thoughts once again when her career starts to boom and blow up which I am certain it will. Then we can talk about and argue whether or not to keep the table or not. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 04:43, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
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She now has a profile in 7/10 of them so I added it. BB US/Can and UK Official Charts will most likely create it in the next days. I don't think the fields are a problem now. @ Primefac: Cornerstonepicker ( talk) 23:38, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Cornerstonepicker, your edit summary makes it sound like you agree with me. I guess my question is, if Normani won the award while being part of Fifth Harmony, should it really be considered "her" award? I mean, sure, I know that the entire cast of a film receives an Oscar trophy when the film wins, but we don't list it on (for example) Trevante Rhode's awards. I would think the same would apply here - Fifth Harmony won the award, so even though she got a bit of shiny to take home she didn't do it by herself. Primefac ( talk) 17:31, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Normani is not apart of the girl group Fifth Harmony anymore. They announced their indefinite hiatus and released their finale music video Don't Say You Love Me. These are all signs that the group is not performing anymore. She is officially a solo singer! We are currently focusing on her solo projects as Normani the singer not Normani the girl from Fifth Harmony! It's an indefinite hiatus but indefinite which means they are not performing for a very, very, very long time ... I think highlighting the years 2012-2018 which are all the years she was apart of Fifth Harmony. It's her journey through X Factor and Fifth Harmony put together. Throughout all of those years it was from 2012-2018. That's why I made those edits because those are the correct highlight year margin. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 04:38, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The awards list (seen in this version) was recently split out into List of awards and nominations received by Normani. There are nine awards, and to me the awards table as shown is not even close enough to "hefty" to justify a new page (unlike the discography, which is awkward enough that I fully support its existence). I say just merge it all back in (i.e. restore the old version) until there's a larger body of content. Primefac ( talk) 11:59, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
She has won five awards and has been nominated for eleven. These are big awards she has been nominated and received. Now if you look closely at articles Camila Cabello awards list and Lauren Jauregui awards list. Both articles had less awards starting out than Normani currently has right now. With Jauregui only receiving 8 nominations and Cabello starting out with only 4 awards and one pending at the beginning. My advice is look through these articles history and see the progress made on those before you start judging. The article is fine where it is at and needs to stay in tact. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 21:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Billiekhalidfan, is there at least one reliable music source besides AllMusic's bio section that considers her notable as a songwriter? Lapadite ( talk) 03:32, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Should the lead intro sentence include "songwriter" as an occupation this new solo artist is notable for? RfC relisted by Cunard ( talk) at 01:19, 22 September 2019 (UTC). Lapadite ( talk) 16:36, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
avoid overloading the lead paragraph with various and sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable.(See also the footnote at the end of that paragraph.) However, I think we're fighting an uphill battle on this - the lead sentence of basically any article about a pop singer seems to contain "songwriter", even if they just have a few co-writing credits scattered through their discography. I even got some pushback for trying to remove "music video director" and "record executive" from the lead sentence of Charli XCX a little while back. Colin M ( talk) 21:27, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Normani is American. She was born in America. The first sentence of this article literally says "Normani is an American singer...". So explain to me how she is African-American? Billiekhalidfan ( talk) 23:12, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
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If Cabello and Jauregui can have their stand alone articles then so should Kordei. She is just as notable if not more notable than the said members with articles. This article needs to stay in tact and I need help coming up with reliable sources. Welcome tothenew millennium 22:37, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Welcometothenewmillenium, while I appreciate your enthusiasm for working on this topic, the newest version is nearly identical to the pre-redirect version. While I have no issues with this article being recreated, please send it through the Draft / AFC process so that it can be reviewed by other editors to ensure it has overcome the issues presented in the deletion discussion. Primefac ( talk) 11:52, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
It seems reasonable to question why this article is still being redirected, so I'll add my voice to questioning it. While there's not a great deal of depth to it, I'm seeing at least two secondary sources in the linked Draft that specifically cover the subject, which is the criteria for notability for Wikipedia. (Digital Spy isn't the best source but two articles on Billboard are solid, and one of those deals with her Dancing With the Stars appearance that happened after the AfD, meaning it's a source added beyond the decision of that AfD). Very quick glances at Google show 3.2M followers on Instagram and articles on People, Eonline, Us Magazine and The Mirror about various celebrity minutia...and many of these articles are AFTER that AfD closed. I recommend involved editors apply better sourcing and review the criteria for this article's independent existence.
The members of this music group are new to notability quick makes it reasonable to question such status, but it's contemporary and subject to change so Wikipedia should likewise adapt to said changes. - Markeer 23:58, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
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I'm asking in favor for Normani Kordei's page to be active and published for the Following reasons.
She was a finalist on Dancing with the Stars and placed third on the competition show. She has been featured in movies and tv shows. She has released her own music and dance videos. She lots of citable information regarding her mother's cancer and her family being Cancer ambassadors and legal troubles. She has lots of coverage of her history with gymnastics and has competed at an elite level. She is currently working on future projects that are still in the process of being released. She has been linked to notable celebrities She has made massive media coverage over cyber bullying and lots of citation of her talking about in articles, magazines, new papers, talk shows and news reports. Please take all my comments into consideration asking politely. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 01:29, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
I was hoping someone could upload an image to the artist article. I would but I'm not good at uploading pictures. I'm looking for help from other users to do so. I'm giving anyone permission to do so. I want her to have a profile image to make her stand out even more! Please upload a good one and one that is in high quality! Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 19:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
I think this article has reached enough covered to have stand alone article not only that but has enough information for the article to be protected. To ensure her article stays in tact I'm placing this
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requesting for her page to be protected! Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 00:39, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
What are the questionable edits that I have made are you stating that I'm the only one vandalizing or participating in the source? Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 18:20, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
In future references I will make sure that my edits are more precise and my citation are linked correctly .. I would however look into other edits made by other users as well. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 04:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
I've noticed multiple counts of vandalism to Kordei's page. I'm in favor of requesting another semi-protection
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for her page! Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 23:59, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
I took your advice of posting a request in Wikipedia:Requests for page protection ... and created a discussion page for it too! Wikipedia:Articles for Semi-Protection/Normani Kordei/Dinah Jane Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 10:49, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 22:43, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
I am of the opinion that the table of how well Kordei did on DWTS is rather trivial and somewhat undue, given the relatively small size of the page. If someone wants to know the minutiae of how she did they should check out the main season page. If there is no consensus against it I will be removing the table. Primefac ( talk) 23:15, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Plus also on a side note I just want to point out only in my opinion ... I feel as though this here artist Normani Kordei is the most debatable article out of all the members and past members of the group. Her page has been reverted several times even after she gained notability. Extremely underrated in my opinion because credit is not due to her in my opinion. When creating or posting information about Ms. Hamilton we have to fight and talked about it because we feel as though some people have a problem with or are bothered by it? I know that I'm leading off from the topic of conversation but it's still something to think about as well. That's all I just laid about my thoughts and opinion on stuff. You can choose to agree or disagree I just want to hear your thoughts on other auto-confirmed users as well! Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 09:34, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
She's not famous like Zendaya or Kim Kardashian also that's a bad reason from a WikiUser to use as a response. To compare other notable people to other notable people. This article is not about Zendaya or Kim Kardashian. This article is about Normani we are focusing on Normani and only Normani! What difference does it make if her table stays or leaves. She was a contestant on Dancing with the Stars that is factual. She did make it to the finale and land in third place there's another known fact. Dancing with the Stars was one of the highlights of her career. It is not bad to mention and keep the table or not. Here's my thoughts once again when her career starts to boom and blow up which I am certain it will. Then we can talk about and argue whether or not to keep the table or not. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 04:43, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
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She now has a profile in 7/10 of them so I added it. BB US/Can and UK Official Charts will most likely create it in the next days. I don't think the fields are a problem now. @ Primefac: Cornerstonepicker ( talk) 23:38, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Cornerstonepicker, your edit summary makes it sound like you agree with me. I guess my question is, if Normani won the award while being part of Fifth Harmony, should it really be considered "her" award? I mean, sure, I know that the entire cast of a film receives an Oscar trophy when the film wins, but we don't list it on (for example) Trevante Rhode's awards. I would think the same would apply here - Fifth Harmony won the award, so even though she got a bit of shiny to take home she didn't do it by herself. Primefac ( talk) 17:31, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Normani is not apart of the girl group Fifth Harmony anymore. They announced their indefinite hiatus and released their finale music video Don't Say You Love Me. These are all signs that the group is not performing anymore. She is officially a solo singer! We are currently focusing on her solo projects as Normani the singer not Normani the girl from Fifth Harmony! It's an indefinite hiatus but indefinite which means they are not performing for a very, very, very long time ... I think highlighting the years 2012-2018 which are all the years she was apart of Fifth Harmony. It's her journey through X Factor and Fifth Harmony put together. Throughout all of those years it was from 2012-2018. That's why I made those edits because those are the correct highlight year margin. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 04:38, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The awards list (seen in this version) was recently split out into List of awards and nominations received by Normani. There are nine awards, and to me the awards table as shown is not even close enough to "hefty" to justify a new page (unlike the discography, which is awkward enough that I fully support its existence). I say just merge it all back in (i.e. restore the old version) until there's a larger body of content. Primefac ( talk) 11:59, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
She has won five awards and has been nominated for eleven. These are big awards she has been nominated and received. Now if you look closely at articles Camila Cabello awards list and Lauren Jauregui awards list. Both articles had less awards starting out than Normani currently has right now. With Jauregui only receiving 8 nominations and Cabello starting out with only 4 awards and one pending at the beginning. My advice is look through these articles history and see the progress made on those before you start judging. The article is fine where it is at and needs to stay in tact. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 21:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Billiekhalidfan, is there at least one reliable music source besides AllMusic's bio section that considers her notable as a songwriter? Lapadite ( talk) 03:32, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Should the lead intro sentence include "songwriter" as an occupation this new solo artist is notable for? RfC relisted by Cunard ( talk) at 01:19, 22 September 2019 (UTC). Lapadite ( talk) 16:36, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
avoid overloading the lead paragraph with various and sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable.(See also the footnote at the end of that paragraph.) However, I think we're fighting an uphill battle on this - the lead sentence of basically any article about a pop singer seems to contain "songwriter", even if they just have a few co-writing credits scattered through their discography. I even got some pushback for trying to remove "music video director" and "record executive" from the lead sentence of Charli XCX a little while back. Colin M ( talk) 21:27, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Normani is American. She was born in America. The first sentence of this article literally says "Normani is an American singer...". So explain to me how she is African-American? Billiekhalidfan ( talk) 23:12, 22 October 2019 (UTC)