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The gloss given for "Right Resolve/Intention", "the giving up of home and adopting the life of a religious mendicant in order to follow the path" is inaccurate, and is not supported by the cited source, Harvey's An Introduction to Buddhism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.187.147 ( talk) 19:02, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
2. Right resolve ( samma-sahkappa , Skt samyak-samkalpa ): A ‘sahkappd is seen as springing from what one focuses perception on, and to potentially lead on to desire-to-do, yearning and seeking something out (S.11.143), reminiscent of the samkalpa or preparatory resolve that the Brahmins made before carrying out a sacrificial ritual. It concerns the emotions and aspirations and is:
i) at the ‘ordinary’ level, resolve for: a) nekkhamma (Skt naiskamya ), peaceful ‘renun¬ ciation’ or ‘non-sensuality’, and away from sense-pleasures ( kdmas)\ b) non-ill-will, equivalent to lovingkindness, and away from ill-will; c) non-cruelty, equivalent to compassion, and away from cruelty.
ii) at the Noble level: focused mental application ( vitakka , Skt vitarka ) in accord with right seeing. It is seen to both spring from and aid right view, both being part of wisdom. It aids right view as it is a repeated application of the mind to an object of contemplation, so that this can be rightly seen and understood, in a deep and discerning way, to be impermanent, dukkha, non-Self.
leaving horne and trying to follow this path as a religious mendicant
The translation used in this article is a little unusual. I've collected several translations of the Noble Eightfold Path:
Bodhi | Hanh | Keown | Lopez, Donald S. (Britannica) | Rahula | Sujato | Vetter |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
right view | right view | right view | correct view | right understanding | right view | right views |
right intention | right thinking | right resolve | correct intention | right thought | right thought | right resolve |
right speech | right speech | right speech | correct speech | right speech | right speech | right speech |
right action | right action | right action | correct action | right action | right action | right conduct |
right livelihood | right livelihood | right livelihood | correct livelihood | right livelihood | right livelihood | right livelihood |
right effort | right diligence | right effort | correct effort | right effort | right effort | right effort |
right mindfulness | right mindfulness | right mindfulness | correct mindfulness | right mindfulness | right mindfulness | right mindfulness |
right concentration | right concentration | right meditation | correct concentration | right concentration | right immersion | right samādhi (concentration) |
The article currently uses the Vetter translation. I am not sure that is the best translation to use, and I think it would make sense to note that the Noble Eightfold Path is translated into English differently by different translators?
Craig Stuntz ( talk) 16:51, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
I believe the chart in the above discussion would be a great addiction to the article.
Anyone disagree? Sethie ( talk) 19:42, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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The gloss given for "Right Resolve/Intention", "the giving up of home and adopting the life of a religious mendicant in order to follow the path" is inaccurate, and is not supported by the cited source, Harvey's An Introduction to Buddhism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.187.147 ( talk) 19:02, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
2. Right resolve ( samma-sahkappa , Skt samyak-samkalpa ): A ‘sahkappd is seen as springing from what one focuses perception on, and to potentially lead on to desire-to-do, yearning and seeking something out (S.11.143), reminiscent of the samkalpa or preparatory resolve that the Brahmins made before carrying out a sacrificial ritual. It concerns the emotions and aspirations and is:
i) at the ‘ordinary’ level, resolve for: a) nekkhamma (Skt naiskamya ), peaceful ‘renun¬ ciation’ or ‘non-sensuality’, and away from sense-pleasures ( kdmas)\ b) non-ill-will, equivalent to lovingkindness, and away from ill-will; c) non-cruelty, equivalent to compassion, and away from cruelty.
ii) at the Noble level: focused mental application ( vitakka , Skt vitarka ) in accord with right seeing. It is seen to both spring from and aid right view, both being part of wisdom. It aids right view as it is a repeated application of the mind to an object of contemplation, so that this can be rightly seen and understood, in a deep and discerning way, to be impermanent, dukkha, non-Self.
leaving horne and trying to follow this path as a religious mendicant
The translation used in this article is a little unusual. I've collected several translations of the Noble Eightfold Path:
Bodhi | Hanh | Keown | Lopez, Donald S. (Britannica) | Rahula | Sujato | Vetter |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
right view | right view | right view | correct view | right understanding | right view | right views |
right intention | right thinking | right resolve | correct intention | right thought | right thought | right resolve |
right speech | right speech | right speech | correct speech | right speech | right speech | right speech |
right action | right action | right action | correct action | right action | right action | right conduct |
right livelihood | right livelihood | right livelihood | correct livelihood | right livelihood | right livelihood | right livelihood |
right effort | right diligence | right effort | correct effort | right effort | right effort | right effort |
right mindfulness | right mindfulness | right mindfulness | correct mindfulness | right mindfulness | right mindfulness | right mindfulness |
right concentration | right concentration | right meditation | correct concentration | right concentration | right immersion | right samādhi (concentration) |
The article currently uses the Vetter translation. I am not sure that is the best translation to use, and I think it would make sense to note that the Noble Eightfold Path is translated into English differently by different translators?
Craig Stuntz ( talk) 16:51, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
I believe the chart in the above discussion would be a great addiction to the article.
Anyone disagree? Sethie ( talk) 19:42, 11 January 2024 (UTC)