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Isn't the correct spelling Ninjas in Pyjamas? -- User:212.105.39.47 20:40, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
Is the bds listed here the same one who was involved in the development of SoGamed precursor GeekBoys? -- Habap 19:09, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This article survived a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. - Splash 01:45, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
No reason given. I think it's a foolish idea by someone on a campaign to eliminate articles on gaming personalities and groups. -- Habap 14:56, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
I see no reason to merge. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:43, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Why should an article about a gaming personality in his own right be merged with his team? It's like merging Beckham into the ManU article. Silly suggestion which goes against the standard wikipedia format.
There are a number of players that really should be mentioned in the list of former notable players. These are players that helped define what would become a great climate for Swedish CS playing.
The following is not intended to be put on the page at all, but I will add something sized down in due time, preferrably after response in this Talk-page.
The material can be reviewed through use of the following link: http://www.esportsea.com/index.php?s=esports&d=content&id=1819 - It details the rise of NiP, from birth to death, to ressurection.
A few players I feel should be mentioned:
Yohan "Hyb" Carlund - Held membership through the change from NiP to Eyeballers in 2000, then from Eyeballers to c9 in 2001, left for the clan MAFIA with MedioN when the latter was kicked from the clan and NiP subsequently broke up into the clans All* (Allstars) and MAFIA who became SoA.swe (Spirit of Amiga Sweden). Later returned to NiP when the clan was reunited in it's most famous and star-studded lineup ever: Potti, HeatoN, Hyb, XeqtR and MedioN.
Hyb should be mentioned because he has spent a considerable amount of time among the top players in the world in other teams too (Game OnLine, eSports United Sweden / team 9, etc).
Jörgen/Joergen "XeqtR" Johannessen - After having beaten NiP at events in his current team SoA (Spirit of Amiga), XeqtR joined the NiP team during their existance as clan 9 / team 9 in 2001 and stayed with the team until just before CPL Dallas in 2001, when trouble arose and he had decided to participate in the event with the swedish team GoL (Game OnLine) after being kicked from NiP or decided to leave. After that event was won by NiP XeqtR returned to NiP and was part of the famous lineup mentioned above: Potti, HeatoN, Hyb, XeqtR and MedioN.
XeqtR played for Schroet Kommando Scandinavia and subsequently Schroet Kommando Sweden, aswell as Game OnLine, Nordic Division (that became eSports United Sweden / team 9). XeqtR also played for eoLithic, a clan poised to become the best in the world, and beat his old team in SK.swe twice with them.
Erik "MedioN" Engström - Was a first generation Ninja in Pyjamas and after the brief leave for MAFIA / Spirit of Amiga Sweden he remained faithful to the Ninjas before effectively leaving the team when he announced that he was retiring from CS after CPL Dallas in 2001. MedioN was a ground pillar in the NiP team, having never been pushed aside to make room for anyone else. He helped create NiP and helped make it the world-famous team it became. He is an original Ninja and should be mentioned both in the "History..."-section aswell as the "Notable former players..."-section.
Michael "Ahl" Korduner - Ahl joined NiP when they found theirselves in need for a new player after kicking XeqtR just before CPL Dallas 2001. He had been a member of Game OnLine and was on his way up. He joined the team together with MAFIA cleanleader Vesslan. With NiP he won the ICE CPL qualifiers and together they earned their spot in the 2001 CPL Dallas event - The lineup was now Potti, HeatoN, Hyb, MedioN, Ahl and Vesslan. Together they made what could easily be described as NiP's biggest accomplishment ever; winning the 2001 CPL Dallas event, with X3, the best american team and thought to be the world's best team placing second and GameOnLine placing third.
Ahl was a member of the team throughout the majority of the Schroet Kommando era and has been a part of many of the other nordic powerhouses such as eSports United Sweden / team 9. He also made the mirrored transition from Schroet Kommando to Ninjas in Pyjamas, effectively being part of the most notable changes in NiP history.
Johan "Vesslan" Ryman - Former clanleader of MAFIA, Vesslan joined NiP together with Ahl for CPL Dallas in 2001, winning that event. Vesslan was later kicked after the return of XeqtR, but has been a part of Swedish CS longer than many others. He has, in his participation in teams such as eSports United Sweden / team 9 helped CS a great deal and is therefore notable.
SkogsRickard 14:41, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I fail to see how a 3rd or 4th place can be considered a major achievement in a tournament which isn't even regarded as 'major' in GO perspective. And less so when the team has won 16 of the 18 LAN tournaments they've participated in. Would a player from NiP see this as a "major achievement"? Please discuss. Imonoz ( talk) 15:17, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
That's my point, exactly, if the word "major" isn't mentioned anywhere about a certain tournament, it shouldn't be considered one. I don't have time to look up every news article about CPH Games but I'm sure the word major comes in there somewhere. You answered the wrong question though, my question was who you think of us Wikipedians should judge whether this was a major achievement or not. I fully agree we should ask someone more reliable as HLTV.org. Does that gallery even mention those are only pictures from major tournament, doesn't look like it. Staffs are sent to most international events, doesn't make it major though and when did I say RaidCall ESL was minor? That "Major achievements" have been around for a while, you probably need to start a discussion about changing the title of it before taking action to avoid edit wars. "What represents an achievement?" Weren't we talking about major achievements here? I'm glad you got in touch with Tgwri1s though, his statement is more worth than any of us two in this regard. And he clearly states this wasn't any major achievement for NiP. So let's see what Lurppis and MIRAA says. Imonoz ( talk) 16:12, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
The Virtus.PRO mentioned in this article is the CIS team HellRaisers and ESC Gaming is Virtus.PRO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.136.85 ( talk) 23:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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Isn't the correct spelling Ninjas in Pyjamas? -- User:212.105.39.47 20:40, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
Is the bds listed here the same one who was involved in the development of SoGamed precursor GeekBoys? -- Habap 19:09, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This article survived a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. - Splash 01:45, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
No reason given. I think it's a foolish idea by someone on a campaign to eliminate articles on gaming personalities and groups. -- Habap 14:56, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
I see no reason to merge. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:43, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Why should an article about a gaming personality in his own right be merged with his team? It's like merging Beckham into the ManU article. Silly suggestion which goes against the standard wikipedia format.
There are a number of players that really should be mentioned in the list of former notable players. These are players that helped define what would become a great climate for Swedish CS playing.
The following is not intended to be put on the page at all, but I will add something sized down in due time, preferrably after response in this Talk-page.
The material can be reviewed through use of the following link: http://www.esportsea.com/index.php?s=esports&d=content&id=1819 - It details the rise of NiP, from birth to death, to ressurection.
A few players I feel should be mentioned:
Yohan "Hyb" Carlund - Held membership through the change from NiP to Eyeballers in 2000, then from Eyeballers to c9 in 2001, left for the clan MAFIA with MedioN when the latter was kicked from the clan and NiP subsequently broke up into the clans All* (Allstars) and MAFIA who became SoA.swe (Spirit of Amiga Sweden). Later returned to NiP when the clan was reunited in it's most famous and star-studded lineup ever: Potti, HeatoN, Hyb, XeqtR and MedioN.
Hyb should be mentioned because he has spent a considerable amount of time among the top players in the world in other teams too (Game OnLine, eSports United Sweden / team 9, etc).
Jörgen/Joergen "XeqtR" Johannessen - After having beaten NiP at events in his current team SoA (Spirit of Amiga), XeqtR joined the NiP team during their existance as clan 9 / team 9 in 2001 and stayed with the team until just before CPL Dallas in 2001, when trouble arose and he had decided to participate in the event with the swedish team GoL (Game OnLine) after being kicked from NiP or decided to leave. After that event was won by NiP XeqtR returned to NiP and was part of the famous lineup mentioned above: Potti, HeatoN, Hyb, XeqtR and MedioN.
XeqtR played for Schroet Kommando Scandinavia and subsequently Schroet Kommando Sweden, aswell as Game OnLine, Nordic Division (that became eSports United Sweden / team 9). XeqtR also played for eoLithic, a clan poised to become the best in the world, and beat his old team in SK.swe twice with them.
Erik "MedioN" Engström - Was a first generation Ninja in Pyjamas and after the brief leave for MAFIA / Spirit of Amiga Sweden he remained faithful to the Ninjas before effectively leaving the team when he announced that he was retiring from CS after CPL Dallas in 2001. MedioN was a ground pillar in the NiP team, having never been pushed aside to make room for anyone else. He helped create NiP and helped make it the world-famous team it became. He is an original Ninja and should be mentioned both in the "History..."-section aswell as the "Notable former players..."-section.
Michael "Ahl" Korduner - Ahl joined NiP when they found theirselves in need for a new player after kicking XeqtR just before CPL Dallas 2001. He had been a member of Game OnLine and was on his way up. He joined the team together with MAFIA cleanleader Vesslan. With NiP he won the ICE CPL qualifiers and together they earned their spot in the 2001 CPL Dallas event - The lineup was now Potti, HeatoN, Hyb, MedioN, Ahl and Vesslan. Together they made what could easily be described as NiP's biggest accomplishment ever; winning the 2001 CPL Dallas event, with X3, the best american team and thought to be the world's best team placing second and GameOnLine placing third.
Ahl was a member of the team throughout the majority of the Schroet Kommando era and has been a part of many of the other nordic powerhouses such as eSports United Sweden / team 9. He also made the mirrored transition from Schroet Kommando to Ninjas in Pyjamas, effectively being part of the most notable changes in NiP history.
Johan "Vesslan" Ryman - Former clanleader of MAFIA, Vesslan joined NiP together with Ahl for CPL Dallas in 2001, winning that event. Vesslan was later kicked after the return of XeqtR, but has been a part of Swedish CS longer than many others. He has, in his participation in teams such as eSports United Sweden / team 9 helped CS a great deal and is therefore notable.
SkogsRickard 14:41, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I fail to see how a 3rd or 4th place can be considered a major achievement in a tournament which isn't even regarded as 'major' in GO perspective. And less so when the team has won 16 of the 18 LAN tournaments they've participated in. Would a player from NiP see this as a "major achievement"? Please discuss. Imonoz ( talk) 15:17, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
That's my point, exactly, if the word "major" isn't mentioned anywhere about a certain tournament, it shouldn't be considered one. I don't have time to look up every news article about CPH Games but I'm sure the word major comes in there somewhere. You answered the wrong question though, my question was who you think of us Wikipedians should judge whether this was a major achievement or not. I fully agree we should ask someone more reliable as HLTV.org. Does that gallery even mention those are only pictures from major tournament, doesn't look like it. Staffs are sent to most international events, doesn't make it major though and when did I say RaidCall ESL was minor? That "Major achievements" have been around for a while, you probably need to start a discussion about changing the title of it before taking action to avoid edit wars. "What represents an achievement?" Weren't we talking about major achievements here? I'm glad you got in touch with Tgwri1s though, his statement is more worth than any of us two in this regard. And he clearly states this wasn't any major achievement for NiP. So let's see what Lurppis and MIRAA says. Imonoz ( talk) 16:12, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
The Virtus.PRO mentioned in this article is the CIS team HellRaisers and ESC Gaming is Virtus.PRO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.136.85 ( talk) 23:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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