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Can we really justify quoting the whole introduction? Over 400 words is an awful lot for a quote. Answers such as "you need all of it to get the full flavour" won't do, since you could use the same answer to justify quoting an entire novel!
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Oops, didn't notice this before. I moved the page to
Nightshade (1985 video game) because where there is more than one game with the same title (there have since been two others with the same name,
Nightshade (1991 video game) and
Nightshade (2004 video game), they are to be disambiguated by the year of release, not by the platform the game was released on. This would be especially inappropriate here as this game wasn't just a Spectrum game, but multi-platform. The relevant video game article naming conventions are here:
WP:VG/GL#Disambiguation. Thanks, Miremare13:48, 27 September 2009 (UTC)reply
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First; I'm finding your sourcing a bit all over the place. Some references seem to be repeated, and the formatting is inconsistent. I'd go for simply: Smith, John (1999). "Example title". Magazine (20): 22. You don't even need an accessdate if you're just citing the online version of a print publication. This isn't technically required for GAC, but I hope you won't begrudge me the comment.
It's OK, I see what you mean. I've made an attempt to clear this up; I removed all access dates from online versions of prints and correcting the "cite journals". I don't know why I can't put the dates in brackets for some of them. JAGUAR22:19, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
"various other beasts" How about "supernatural creatures"?
I'm a bit puzzled by the reference to a "poisonous" enemy. Is that what has just been described, or something different? What's a "life"? Is that a colour thing?
"When a journalist reviewing Nightshade for Crash asked Tim and Chris Stamper what the object of the game was, and how large the play area was, they responded: "oh, we can't tell you that".[8]" What does this have to do with anything? Maybe it would fit better in the previous paragraph?
I included it as it seemed like a nice addition to the article. They rarely gave out interviews or spoke about their games, so I thought it was appropriate. I've rephrased it a little and moved it to the first paragraph, but I can always get rid of it if you want? JAGUAR22:32, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Do we have any more recent sources? Has there been any last influence?
Unfortunately there are no retrospective/recent sources available; this game wasn't included in Rare Replay and doesn't have any recent coverage from video game critics. I got to admit, this seems like one of Ultimate's most boring games! JAGUAR18:29, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Could you check the external links? The review is a repeat of a reference, while the walkthrough and emulator potentially have copyright problems. The Ultimate Wurdle link is dead.
Also, please check my edits. The information about the ports is included in the lead, but not in the main article body- this should be fixed.
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17:24, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the review,
J Milburn! I think I've got everything so far. Please let me know if I've made any mistakes or have overlooked anything. I've added both the reviews you suggested in the reception section. Regarding contemporary sources, I'm afraid there's nothing out there as this is mainly another forgotten game and this wasn't included in Rare Replay, otherwise it would have got more coverage. JAGUAR18:29, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
I'm not opposed to the use of the advert image, but I wonder if we have an image of the box cover instead? At the very least, the rationale on the current image needs a lot of work.
I've uploaded the actual cover from the ZX Spectrum release, and added a better rationale along with it. Really it's the same image without the small print! JAGUAR22:45, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Again, I'm not opposed to the use of the screenshot, but, again, the rationale needs to be fixed up.
Still waiting on some sourced information about the ports/release in the main article body? You could perhaps add another paragraph to "background" and rename it "Background and release"?
Sorry about that, I totally overlooked it! I've added the release info under "background and release". MobyGames always has the most accurate release dates, but sadly it's not allowed under
WP:VG/S. JAGUAR22:45, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks
J Milburn. Sorry for completely overlooking the release info, I remember reading it last night but it went out of my mind this morning! I've fixed up the fair use rationales, and have uploaded the actual cover to the game (it was lucky I found it, as sometimes they're almost impossible to find). JAGUAR22:45, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Can we really justify quoting the whole introduction? Over 400 words is an awful lot for a quote. Answers such as "you need all of it to get the full flavour" won't do, since you could use the same answer to justify quoting an entire novel!
86.136.250.66 (
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23:20, 31 August 2008 (UTC)reply
Move?
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Oops, didn't notice this before. I moved the page to
Nightshade (1985 video game) because where there is more than one game with the same title (there have since been two others with the same name,
Nightshade (1991 video game) and
Nightshade (2004 video game), they are to be disambiguated by the year of release, not by the platform the game was released on. This would be especially inappropriate here as this game wasn't just a Spectrum game, but multi-platform. The relevant video game article naming conventions are here:
WP:VG/GL#Disambiguation. Thanks, Miremare13:48, 27 September 2009 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
First; I'm finding your sourcing a bit all over the place. Some references seem to be repeated, and the formatting is inconsistent. I'd go for simply: Smith, John (1999). "Example title". Magazine (20): 22. You don't even need an accessdate if you're just citing the online version of a print publication. This isn't technically required for GAC, but I hope you won't begrudge me the comment.
It's OK, I see what you mean. I've made an attempt to clear this up; I removed all access dates from online versions of prints and correcting the "cite journals". I don't know why I can't put the dates in brackets for some of them. JAGUAR22:19, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
"various other beasts" How about "supernatural creatures"?
I'm a bit puzzled by the reference to a "poisonous" enemy. Is that what has just been described, or something different? What's a "life"? Is that a colour thing?
"When a journalist reviewing Nightshade for Crash asked Tim and Chris Stamper what the object of the game was, and how large the play area was, they responded: "oh, we can't tell you that".[8]" What does this have to do with anything? Maybe it would fit better in the previous paragraph?
I included it as it seemed like a nice addition to the article. They rarely gave out interviews or spoke about their games, so I thought it was appropriate. I've rephrased it a little and moved it to the first paragraph, but I can always get rid of it if you want? JAGUAR22:32, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Do we have any more recent sources? Has there been any last influence?
Unfortunately there are no retrospective/recent sources available; this game wasn't included in Rare Replay and doesn't have any recent coverage from video game critics. I got to admit, this seems like one of Ultimate's most boring games! JAGUAR18:29, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Could you check the external links? The review is a repeat of a reference, while the walkthrough and emulator potentially have copyright problems. The Ultimate Wurdle link is dead.
Also, please check my edits. The information about the ports is included in the lead, but not in the main article body- this should be fixed.
Josh Milburn (
talk)
17:24, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the review,
J Milburn! I think I've got everything so far. Please let me know if I've made any mistakes or have overlooked anything. I've added both the reviews you suggested in the reception section. Regarding contemporary sources, I'm afraid there's nothing out there as this is mainly another forgotten game and this wasn't included in Rare Replay, otherwise it would have got more coverage. JAGUAR18:29, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
I'm not opposed to the use of the advert image, but I wonder if we have an image of the box cover instead? At the very least, the rationale on the current image needs a lot of work.
I've uploaded the actual cover from the ZX Spectrum release, and added a better rationale along with it. Really it's the same image without the small print! JAGUAR22:45, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Again, I'm not opposed to the use of the screenshot, but, again, the rationale needs to be fixed up.
Still waiting on some sourced information about the ports/release in the main article body? You could perhaps add another paragraph to "background" and rename it "Background and release"?
Sorry about that, I totally overlooked it! I've added the release info under "background and release". MobyGames always has the most accurate release dates, but sadly it's not allowed under
WP:VG/S. JAGUAR22:45, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks
J Milburn. Sorry for completely overlooking the release info, I remember reading it last night but it went out of my mind this morning! I've fixed up the fair use rationales, and have uploaded the actual cover to the game (it was lucky I found it, as sometimes they're almost impossible to find). JAGUAR22:45, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply