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Given Ramindjeri redirects into Ngarrindjeri and more importantly Ramindjeri Call Over Ngarrindjeri-"[' Kaurna]" in
I have been made increasingly aware thanks to Pre-eminent enduring Sovereign Ramindjeri Spokesman Karno Walker media online of at least my necessary paradigm shift from like Richard Dawkin's " The God Delusion" to the South Australian Museum's Ethnicist Norman Tindale's apparent 1920s- 1974 so called "['Kaurna]" Map, publicly posterity published perpetrated and Adelaide University UNESCO Award winning "['Kaurna]" Linguist Dr Robert Amery and Australian Cultural Heritage Management P/L CEO South Australia Government Consulting Anthropologist Dr Neale Draper perpetuated "['Kaurna]" delusion whereby I'd been invited on 16 Dec 2009 to Ramindjeri Heritage Association Inc Public Meeting held at the Adelaide City Council Old Box Factory in preparation for we whitefellas' Australian Adelaide Federal Court of Australia House Hearing Ramindjeri Call Over Ngarrindjeri-"['Kaurna]" when Karno Walker was elected into that Pre-eminent enduring Sovereign Spokesman role by those registered Ramindjeri and assembled plus witnessing then "['Kaurna]" identifying Great Grandmothers Carol Agius and so called " Kaurna Native Title Management Committee Female Co-Chair" "Kudnarto" Joan Lamont Williams plus supporters like myself, Sam Rossi and March 2010 Independent SA MLC Candidate Mark Aldridge and in response to the above commentary I am now in a position to posterity publicly sincerely apologise for my in good faith naive North London born New South Wales raised 2004 perpetuated apparent misguided misdirection and provide the following information at least, putting the above on Notice from Unley City Council Full Council Minutes (FCM) On Monday 23 August 2010 at 7.00 pm MOTIONS OF WHICH NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN Item 727 Notice of Motion from Councillor Hudson re Acknowledgement of Kaurna People at Council Meetings 29], — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mifren ( talk • contribs) 28 August 2010
Transcript of Unley Council minutes
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Councillor Hudson has given notice of intention to move the following motion at the Council meeting to be held on 23 August 2010:
As you may be aware, I have raised this issue before in this place in the interests of historical accuracy.
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As stated above in Ramindjeri, Given Meintangk redirects into Ngarrindjeri and more importantly Meintangk [1] I'm genuinely concerned, wondering, why would such vital information with over google search 10pp, be still missing after all this time from wikipedia!? Especially as wikiEditors like Yeti Hunter ( talk) have been so active in this critically important area. I see from [2] that "Reconciliation Through Truth" hence that SA Truth Commission.
I just read, [3]
Ramindjeri men take concerns to UN forum which included, "A paper by Tanganekald Meintangk elder Dr Irene Watson was also accepted for consideration at the forum."
All this demonstrates that there's a lot more that could, should be actively communicated, captured here in wikipedia writing. Matthew ( talk) 20:15, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Actually YH, which source are you referring to? As the reference source Ramindjeri Kaiki Granite Island History & Culture expressly states, "History
Granite Island, characterised by its huge granite boulders tinged with orange and green lichen, has a uniquely distinctive history. The island has a cultural history based on the beliefs of the Ramindjeri group dating back countless generations, as well as a European history dating back to 1802 when Englishman Captain Matthew Flinders on the Investigator and Captain Nicolas Baudin on Le Geographé discovered the area.
Cultural History
Granite Island is part of the local Ramindjeri Aboriginal landscape, and is identified as Kaiki rather than Granite Island. The island has always been of great importance to this indigenous group, as the male Supreme Creator Ngurunderi is believed to have created the island by throwing a spear into the sea. The Ngurunderi Dreaming extends from the upper reaches of the River Murray, to Kangaroo Island." ... "From this point on, Victor Harbor became recognised for its whaling and sealing opportunities. In the early nineteenth century, Encounter Bay attracted large numbers of whales and seals. Whaling stations were erected on Granite Island and the Bluff to pursue the Southern Right Whale. The Ramindjeri people were regarded as competent whalers and were employed as harpooners and whale spotters." Matthew ( talk) 14:37, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
I've moved mention of Luke Trevorrow's cannabis conviction from "Famous Ngarrindjeri" to a new section on the Ngarrindjeri Regional Authority. My first instinct was to remove the mention of Trevorrow altogether, per WP:SCANDAL or WP:UNDUE. However, it does appear mighty damning. As Justice Southwood said during sentencing, he holds a position of great responsibility in his community and yet has been involved in perpetuating the dysfunction of other remote communities. On balance, I think a short, neutral paragraph could be warranted, but I would like to see what other editors think. -- Yeti Hunter ( talk) 02:42, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
<bump> So, no-one objects to removal? I think Nishidani makes a good point above about similar scandals not being included on the pages of political parties. -- Yeti Hunter ( talk) 10:12, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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Pachequis, your recent change, particularly the first sentence, doesn't make grammatical sense, and I'm struggling to comprehend what it's supposed to mean. Can you please clarify here, or look at rewriting for clarification? Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 00:29, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
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Given Ramindjeri redirects into Ngarrindjeri and more importantly Ramindjeri Call Over Ngarrindjeri-"[' Kaurna]" in
I have been made increasingly aware thanks to Pre-eminent enduring Sovereign Ramindjeri Spokesman Karno Walker media online of at least my necessary paradigm shift from like Richard Dawkin's " The God Delusion" to the South Australian Museum's Ethnicist Norman Tindale's apparent 1920s- 1974 so called "['Kaurna]" Map, publicly posterity published perpetrated and Adelaide University UNESCO Award winning "['Kaurna]" Linguist Dr Robert Amery and Australian Cultural Heritage Management P/L CEO South Australia Government Consulting Anthropologist Dr Neale Draper perpetuated "['Kaurna]" delusion whereby I'd been invited on 16 Dec 2009 to Ramindjeri Heritage Association Inc Public Meeting held at the Adelaide City Council Old Box Factory in preparation for we whitefellas' Australian Adelaide Federal Court of Australia House Hearing Ramindjeri Call Over Ngarrindjeri-"['Kaurna]" when Karno Walker was elected into that Pre-eminent enduring Sovereign Spokesman role by those registered Ramindjeri and assembled plus witnessing then "['Kaurna]" identifying Great Grandmothers Carol Agius and so called " Kaurna Native Title Management Committee Female Co-Chair" "Kudnarto" Joan Lamont Williams plus supporters like myself, Sam Rossi and March 2010 Independent SA MLC Candidate Mark Aldridge and in response to the above commentary I am now in a position to posterity publicly sincerely apologise for my in good faith naive North London born New South Wales raised 2004 perpetuated apparent misguided misdirection and provide the following information at least, putting the above on Notice from Unley City Council Full Council Minutes (FCM) On Monday 23 August 2010 at 7.00 pm MOTIONS OF WHICH NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN Item 727 Notice of Motion from Councillor Hudson re Acknowledgement of Kaurna People at Council Meetings 29], — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mifren ( talk • contribs) 28 August 2010
Transcript of Unley Council minutes
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Councillor Hudson has given notice of intention to move the following motion at the Council meeting to be held on 23 August 2010:
As you may be aware, I have raised this issue before in this place in the interests of historical accuracy.
|
As stated above in Ramindjeri, Given Meintangk redirects into Ngarrindjeri and more importantly Meintangk [1] I'm genuinely concerned, wondering, why would such vital information with over google search 10pp, be still missing after all this time from wikipedia!? Especially as wikiEditors like Yeti Hunter ( talk) have been so active in this critically important area. I see from [2] that "Reconciliation Through Truth" hence that SA Truth Commission.
I just read, [3]
Ramindjeri men take concerns to UN forum which included, "A paper by Tanganekald Meintangk elder Dr Irene Watson was also accepted for consideration at the forum."
All this demonstrates that there's a lot more that could, should be actively communicated, captured here in wikipedia writing. Matthew ( talk) 20:15, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Actually YH, which source are you referring to? As the reference source Ramindjeri Kaiki Granite Island History & Culture expressly states, "History
Granite Island, characterised by its huge granite boulders tinged with orange and green lichen, has a uniquely distinctive history. The island has a cultural history based on the beliefs of the Ramindjeri group dating back countless generations, as well as a European history dating back to 1802 when Englishman Captain Matthew Flinders on the Investigator and Captain Nicolas Baudin on Le Geographé discovered the area.
Cultural History
Granite Island is part of the local Ramindjeri Aboriginal landscape, and is identified as Kaiki rather than Granite Island. The island has always been of great importance to this indigenous group, as the male Supreme Creator Ngurunderi is believed to have created the island by throwing a spear into the sea. The Ngurunderi Dreaming extends from the upper reaches of the River Murray, to Kangaroo Island." ... "From this point on, Victor Harbor became recognised for its whaling and sealing opportunities. In the early nineteenth century, Encounter Bay attracted large numbers of whales and seals. Whaling stations were erected on Granite Island and the Bluff to pursue the Southern Right Whale. The Ramindjeri people were regarded as competent whalers and were employed as harpooners and whale spotters." Matthew ( talk) 14:37, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
I've moved mention of Luke Trevorrow's cannabis conviction from "Famous Ngarrindjeri" to a new section on the Ngarrindjeri Regional Authority. My first instinct was to remove the mention of Trevorrow altogether, per WP:SCANDAL or WP:UNDUE. However, it does appear mighty damning. As Justice Southwood said during sentencing, he holds a position of great responsibility in his community and yet has been involved in perpetuating the dysfunction of other remote communities. On balance, I think a short, neutral paragraph could be warranted, but I would like to see what other editors think. -- Yeti Hunter ( talk) 02:42, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
<bump> So, no-one objects to removal? I think Nishidani makes a good point above about similar scandals not being included on the pages of political parties. -- Yeti Hunter ( talk) 10:12, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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Pachequis, your recent change, particularly the first sentence, doesn't make grammatical sense, and I'm struggling to comprehend what it's supposed to mean. Can you please clarify here, or look at rewriting for clarification? Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 00:29, 21 May 2023 (UTC)