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Codem01: While I don't have a strong opinion on if "absurd" or "irreverent" or both terms is best, I don't see how you can call it vandalism/soapbox. I'm finally seeing some reruns in my market and it is extremely irreverant. Were you thinking of "irrelevant," maybe? Rufus Sarsaparilla 01:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
What's the one where Bill juggles with the canes'n'stuff? Thanks, Frank W ~@) R, Jan. 5, 18:54 PST.
On the recently released DVDs, the commentary track for the first/pilot episode refers to the show's producers firing Ray Romano, basically because his delivery wasn't working out possibly due to nervousness, instead of him choosing to leave. Bitt 02:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I can't believe crap like everybody loved raymond does so well, while shows like this were treated so badly and ended early
The name "Dave Nelson" came from the Twin Towers. Each tower had a name, one being Dave, the other Nelson. In the opening credits, Dave Foley's name comes across the screen with the towers in the background.
Deleted. Is there a source for this? I can't find any solid references to WTC nicknames, much less that Dave Nelson is related to them.
This factoid probably originates from the imdb.com entry for NewsRadio, which states this as fact. However, its verified at http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/newyork/peopleevents/p_rockefellers.html, citing they were named after two Rockefellers.
I read somewhere that the name Dave Nelson was created by the director, Dave coming from Dave Foley the directors first choice for the part, and Nelson being his mother's maiden name
A note on the edit changing "finales" to simply "episodes" - while "Injury," which aired at the end of Season 3, was not intended to be that season's finale, it did indeed air after "Space." It has been returned to its proper position at the end of Season 2 on the DVD set, but it is debatable to me whether the original intentions of the producers or the network's final airing schedule should dictate whether "Space" and "Sinking Ship" are both finales, or are just episodes - thus, I suggest leaving them as such.
I've seen the entire run too many times to justify, and I don't recall any mention of Beth's last name, much less a "running gag." There was certainly a running gag with Bill regarding Joe's last name -- "your name is Garelli?" -- but Beth? Could someone provide an example or two? - Laszlo Panaflex 19:14, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
{UPDATE} In the season three dvd commentary, the writers clarify the issue by saying it was meant to be a sort of running gag. Their own public words, not mine :) (or perhaps season 2, I'll verify for sure later this week)
Why won't the pic load? It hasn't been deleted, and the formatting doesn't seem to have changed. ??? - Laszlo Panaflex 06:07, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
The pic has been changed slightly to better abide by the fair use agreement. The picture is the same, but now I know the source (tv.yahoo.com). Copyright is believed to be NBC. The clearly posed promotional photo should fall under fair use. -stewunit
further, in the season three dvd commentary, the writers clarify the issue by saying it was meant to be a sort of running gag. Their own public words, not mine :) (or perhaps season 2, I'll verify for sure later this week)
"may have been famous skyjacker D.B. Cooper" is incorrect. Episode 5-8, "Clash of the Titans", explicitly established that Adam West was Cooper, not Jimmy. Correction has been made. CaptHayfever 06:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Just watched an episode where Bill's birth certificate is found and it turns out his middle name is Bill (William) and his first name is really Evelyn, or as he protests "pronounced EVE a lyn." I have changed the text to reflect this. -I just edited it too...It is in the episode "The Breakup". I am a bit confused if it is "Evalyn" or Evelyn. Evelyn is the more common spelling, but the "a" in his pronunciation makes it sound as if an "A" is required.--PuckSR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.205.245.64 ( talk) 02:25, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
I love the show too, a lot, but this is pretty much a fan page. I tried to edit some of it but it's pretty much the entire article. Whether it's referring to actors by their first name, giggling along with a joke.. it needs to be a little more serious. Does anyone agree? Oreo man 19:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure about the accuracy of two portions of this article:
1) I think the ratings for Newsradio were actually healthy through season two. The turn for the worse came starting in season three.
2) I also think the 100 episode measure for syndication was the standard as of when the show was sold but is no longer the standard due to sales of shows like Newsradio.
I don't have sources at the moment to back either of these things up, but I'm casually looking for them and will edit if I find something to back either one up. Erechtheus 17:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The show was full of references to other sitcoms, from the obvious (the homage to Taxi in Matthew calling Joe "Tony Danza, Jr.", or the dig at Suddenly Susan in Joe telling Beth "there's a spunky redhead in every office") to the slightly subtle (Vicki Lewis doing Kathy Griffin's voice for her "I know" response to being told that there's a spunky redhead in every office) to the nobody's-going-to-get-this (the unfortunately unfulfilled plans to completely shuffle the show around after the fifth season, just like Cheers). While this is typical in animated shows, it seems to be pretty rare in traditional (meaning live-action) sitcoms. But I'm not sure if this is worth mentioning on the page, or how to fit it in.
(Now that I think about it, there are a lot of ways in which NewsRadio is more like a typical animated sitcom. It was funny, for one--and full of jokes that most of the audience weren't expected to get. The characters grew naturally, but almost nothing changed through a traditionally story arc. Like most animated characters, Dave always wore exactly the same clothes unless there was a specific joke in having him dress differently. There were episodes out of continuity, like "Space." And having an episode about Bill being censored for overusing the word "penis" too often actually getting postponed for a season because they refused to cut it down for the censors reminds me of, for example, South Park's recent Mohammed controversy.) -- Falcotron 20:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Not necessarily relevant (or reverent!) to your point, but structurally NewsRadio is similar to Night Court. A good guy-good girl-bad guy trio, surrounded by various crazies. Good guy and girl are frequently pitted against the schemes of bad guy, who also makes repeated unsuccessful advances on good girl. The theme songs are similar, too. Both were offbeat and contrasted with the more popular shows from the Must See line-ups of their times, though NewsRadio is darker and more satirical (thank you, Drake Sather!). Also, comparisons to animation, and comic books, include the references to the SuperKarateMonkeyDeathCar, Mr. James as D.B. Cooper, and the whole Johnny Johnson good-vs-evil story-line. Laszlo Panaflex 22:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, also, one could clearly see Lisa's frequent, plaintive cry of "Da-ave" as a touchstone to Mary Tyler-Moore's "Oh-hh, Rob" and "Oh-hh, Mr. Grant," whether intended or not. If I were to ever meet Maura Tierney, I would beg her to belt out a "Da-ave," you know, just for old time's sake. Laszlo Panaflex 00:03, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Anybody else think this show was very similar to Just Shoot Me? Should this be mentioned? 67.79.126.6 01:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I noticed, with great excitement, that NewsRadio was on TBS on monday (October 2nd) at 1 p.m. Anybody know if this is going to be a regular addition to the TBS lineup? If so we should probably add a blurb about it after the Nike at Nite mention. Tigermave 20:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone have any information about any non Region 1 DVD releases for the article? I checked Amazon.co.uk, but they only had the NTSC version —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bdve ( talk • contribs) 21:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC).
in the Mikey Way page it states that he was a former cast member of this show and i couldent see it in the article so i am asking-- is it true cauz i dont think it is. Post on my talk page a reply if anyone answers. thamnks Razor romance 14:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering if anyone would mind if I added a quick bit that Jon was an earlier character on the show as the jumper? MephYazata ( talk) 21:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah very nice catch! I had forgotten that whole episode. That was terrific. I'll have to go watch it again. Thanks MephYazata ( talk) 05:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Would anyone mind if I added some detail to the character descriptions as I did with Lisa. If so how much compared to the section for Bill? I am not necessarily suggesting giving each character enough for their own page, though that could be a possibility too. MephYazata ( talk) 21:53, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
That does look better as you wrote it though he is still considered Canadian and he did make the implications that he was born and raised in Wisconsin. In fact I seem to recall him saying the phrase "born and raised" in his specific Dave way. I cannot recall the episode, but I'll look for it. BTW do you have any input for my above post? Look forward to hearing from you. MephYazata ( talk) 01:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Should I change the underlining on Super Karate Death Monkey as I have with the episodes listed under Dave? MephYazata ( talk) 02:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
AH thanks for that. That's the second time I've done that in like 2 hours. I swear sometimes I have a dyslexis between my brain and my fingers at times. I was even looking at the name too. Thanks. MephYazata ( talk) 05:25, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree with you about that. There seemed to be way too much lay work involving Wisconsin and then a relatively small bit about confirming his Canadian birth. I guess I didn't look closely enough at my wording and make sure to double check. I don't know if you watched it but something similar happened in Babylon 5 where the overall story was meant to last 7 years and the first major plot lines were meant to be addressed in 4. So when season 5 comes around it seems to have a very different tone that suggests the writers "improvising" so to speak. I am not sure I could pinpoint one thing, but that proverbial "something" was off. MephYazata ( talk) 05:32, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Before I add more I would like some input on how much detail I should go into. 1, 2, 3 paragraphs? Should I structure with the intent to make seperate linked pages? This is an encyclopedia and I don't want to turn it into what seems like a fan page. MephYazata ( talk) 08:14, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
As I am adding the episode titles into the article I am not sure how to internally link them to the brief/somewhat non existent? episodes listed in the guide. I will also be adding to those synopsis so how can I link them? Is this something already addresses that I am missing? MephYazata ( talk) 23:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I deleted the bit about Jimmy James' "full name" being James James James. As far as I can recall, his middle name was never established within the show, only once promoting himself with the tagline, "James James, the man so nice, they named him twice." Numanoid ( talk) 06:51, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I think it would be cool if somebody created a section as to how accurately NewsRadio captures News Radio stations. I watched this show when I was young and impressionable and I believe it misled me. I'd like to know which parts of it are accurate and which are not.
RobinReborn 13:23, 7/4/10 (EST)
ORIGINAL CAST NOTE:
pilot episode: There was no Khandi Alexander in the pilot. In the opening credits her name replaces Ella Joyce in the second episode. In the pilot Catherine is referred (spoken?) to but has no lines and only appears in the near background. Tlinafelt ( talk) 16:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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Codem01: While I don't have a strong opinion on if "absurd" or "irreverent" or both terms is best, I don't see how you can call it vandalism/soapbox. I'm finally seeing some reruns in my market and it is extremely irreverant. Were you thinking of "irrelevant," maybe? Rufus Sarsaparilla 01:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
What's the one where Bill juggles with the canes'n'stuff? Thanks, Frank W ~@) R, Jan. 5, 18:54 PST.
On the recently released DVDs, the commentary track for the first/pilot episode refers to the show's producers firing Ray Romano, basically because his delivery wasn't working out possibly due to nervousness, instead of him choosing to leave. Bitt 02:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I can't believe crap like everybody loved raymond does so well, while shows like this were treated so badly and ended early
The name "Dave Nelson" came from the Twin Towers. Each tower had a name, one being Dave, the other Nelson. In the opening credits, Dave Foley's name comes across the screen with the towers in the background.
Deleted. Is there a source for this? I can't find any solid references to WTC nicknames, much less that Dave Nelson is related to them.
This factoid probably originates from the imdb.com entry for NewsRadio, which states this as fact. However, its verified at http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/newyork/peopleevents/p_rockefellers.html, citing they were named after two Rockefellers.
I read somewhere that the name Dave Nelson was created by the director, Dave coming from Dave Foley the directors first choice for the part, and Nelson being his mother's maiden name
A note on the edit changing "finales" to simply "episodes" - while "Injury," which aired at the end of Season 3, was not intended to be that season's finale, it did indeed air after "Space." It has been returned to its proper position at the end of Season 2 on the DVD set, but it is debatable to me whether the original intentions of the producers or the network's final airing schedule should dictate whether "Space" and "Sinking Ship" are both finales, or are just episodes - thus, I suggest leaving them as such.
I've seen the entire run too many times to justify, and I don't recall any mention of Beth's last name, much less a "running gag." There was certainly a running gag with Bill regarding Joe's last name -- "your name is Garelli?" -- but Beth? Could someone provide an example or two? - Laszlo Panaflex 19:14, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
{UPDATE} In the season three dvd commentary, the writers clarify the issue by saying it was meant to be a sort of running gag. Their own public words, not mine :) (or perhaps season 2, I'll verify for sure later this week)
Why won't the pic load? It hasn't been deleted, and the formatting doesn't seem to have changed. ??? - Laszlo Panaflex 06:07, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
The pic has been changed slightly to better abide by the fair use agreement. The picture is the same, but now I know the source (tv.yahoo.com). Copyright is believed to be NBC. The clearly posed promotional photo should fall under fair use. -stewunit
further, in the season three dvd commentary, the writers clarify the issue by saying it was meant to be a sort of running gag. Their own public words, not mine :) (or perhaps season 2, I'll verify for sure later this week)
"may have been famous skyjacker D.B. Cooper" is incorrect. Episode 5-8, "Clash of the Titans", explicitly established that Adam West was Cooper, not Jimmy. Correction has been made. CaptHayfever 06:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Just watched an episode where Bill's birth certificate is found and it turns out his middle name is Bill (William) and his first name is really Evelyn, or as he protests "pronounced EVE a lyn." I have changed the text to reflect this. -I just edited it too...It is in the episode "The Breakup". I am a bit confused if it is "Evalyn" or Evelyn. Evelyn is the more common spelling, but the "a" in his pronunciation makes it sound as if an "A" is required.--PuckSR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.205.245.64 ( talk) 02:25, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
I love the show too, a lot, but this is pretty much a fan page. I tried to edit some of it but it's pretty much the entire article. Whether it's referring to actors by their first name, giggling along with a joke.. it needs to be a little more serious. Does anyone agree? Oreo man 19:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure about the accuracy of two portions of this article:
1) I think the ratings for Newsradio were actually healthy through season two. The turn for the worse came starting in season three.
2) I also think the 100 episode measure for syndication was the standard as of when the show was sold but is no longer the standard due to sales of shows like Newsradio.
I don't have sources at the moment to back either of these things up, but I'm casually looking for them and will edit if I find something to back either one up. Erechtheus 17:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The show was full of references to other sitcoms, from the obvious (the homage to Taxi in Matthew calling Joe "Tony Danza, Jr.", or the dig at Suddenly Susan in Joe telling Beth "there's a spunky redhead in every office") to the slightly subtle (Vicki Lewis doing Kathy Griffin's voice for her "I know" response to being told that there's a spunky redhead in every office) to the nobody's-going-to-get-this (the unfortunately unfulfilled plans to completely shuffle the show around after the fifth season, just like Cheers). While this is typical in animated shows, it seems to be pretty rare in traditional (meaning live-action) sitcoms. But I'm not sure if this is worth mentioning on the page, or how to fit it in.
(Now that I think about it, there are a lot of ways in which NewsRadio is more like a typical animated sitcom. It was funny, for one--and full of jokes that most of the audience weren't expected to get. The characters grew naturally, but almost nothing changed through a traditionally story arc. Like most animated characters, Dave always wore exactly the same clothes unless there was a specific joke in having him dress differently. There were episodes out of continuity, like "Space." And having an episode about Bill being censored for overusing the word "penis" too often actually getting postponed for a season because they refused to cut it down for the censors reminds me of, for example, South Park's recent Mohammed controversy.) -- Falcotron 20:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Not necessarily relevant (or reverent!) to your point, but structurally NewsRadio is similar to Night Court. A good guy-good girl-bad guy trio, surrounded by various crazies. Good guy and girl are frequently pitted against the schemes of bad guy, who also makes repeated unsuccessful advances on good girl. The theme songs are similar, too. Both were offbeat and contrasted with the more popular shows from the Must See line-ups of their times, though NewsRadio is darker and more satirical (thank you, Drake Sather!). Also, comparisons to animation, and comic books, include the references to the SuperKarateMonkeyDeathCar, Mr. James as D.B. Cooper, and the whole Johnny Johnson good-vs-evil story-line. Laszlo Panaflex 22:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, also, one could clearly see Lisa's frequent, plaintive cry of "Da-ave" as a touchstone to Mary Tyler-Moore's "Oh-hh, Rob" and "Oh-hh, Mr. Grant," whether intended or not. If I were to ever meet Maura Tierney, I would beg her to belt out a "Da-ave," you know, just for old time's sake. Laszlo Panaflex 00:03, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Anybody else think this show was very similar to Just Shoot Me? Should this be mentioned? 67.79.126.6 01:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I noticed, with great excitement, that NewsRadio was on TBS on monday (October 2nd) at 1 p.m. Anybody know if this is going to be a regular addition to the TBS lineup? If so we should probably add a blurb about it after the Nike at Nite mention. Tigermave 20:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone have any information about any non Region 1 DVD releases for the article? I checked Amazon.co.uk, but they only had the NTSC version —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bdve ( talk • contribs) 21:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC).
in the Mikey Way page it states that he was a former cast member of this show and i couldent see it in the article so i am asking-- is it true cauz i dont think it is. Post on my talk page a reply if anyone answers. thamnks Razor romance 14:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering if anyone would mind if I added a quick bit that Jon was an earlier character on the show as the jumper? MephYazata ( talk) 21:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah very nice catch! I had forgotten that whole episode. That was terrific. I'll have to go watch it again. Thanks MephYazata ( talk) 05:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Would anyone mind if I added some detail to the character descriptions as I did with Lisa. If so how much compared to the section for Bill? I am not necessarily suggesting giving each character enough for their own page, though that could be a possibility too. MephYazata ( talk) 21:53, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
That does look better as you wrote it though he is still considered Canadian and he did make the implications that he was born and raised in Wisconsin. In fact I seem to recall him saying the phrase "born and raised" in his specific Dave way. I cannot recall the episode, but I'll look for it. BTW do you have any input for my above post? Look forward to hearing from you. MephYazata ( talk) 01:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Should I change the underlining on Super Karate Death Monkey as I have with the episodes listed under Dave? MephYazata ( talk) 02:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
AH thanks for that. That's the second time I've done that in like 2 hours. I swear sometimes I have a dyslexis between my brain and my fingers at times. I was even looking at the name too. Thanks. MephYazata ( talk) 05:25, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree with you about that. There seemed to be way too much lay work involving Wisconsin and then a relatively small bit about confirming his Canadian birth. I guess I didn't look closely enough at my wording and make sure to double check. I don't know if you watched it but something similar happened in Babylon 5 where the overall story was meant to last 7 years and the first major plot lines were meant to be addressed in 4. So when season 5 comes around it seems to have a very different tone that suggests the writers "improvising" so to speak. I am not sure I could pinpoint one thing, but that proverbial "something" was off. MephYazata ( talk) 05:32, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Before I add more I would like some input on how much detail I should go into. 1, 2, 3 paragraphs? Should I structure with the intent to make seperate linked pages? This is an encyclopedia and I don't want to turn it into what seems like a fan page. MephYazata ( talk) 08:14, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
As I am adding the episode titles into the article I am not sure how to internally link them to the brief/somewhat non existent? episodes listed in the guide. I will also be adding to those synopsis so how can I link them? Is this something already addresses that I am missing? MephYazata ( talk) 23:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I deleted the bit about Jimmy James' "full name" being James James James. As far as I can recall, his middle name was never established within the show, only once promoting himself with the tagline, "James James, the man so nice, they named him twice." Numanoid ( talk) 06:51, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I think it would be cool if somebody created a section as to how accurately NewsRadio captures News Radio stations. I watched this show when I was young and impressionable and I believe it misled me. I'd like to know which parts of it are accurate and which are not.
RobinReborn 13:23, 7/4/10 (EST)
ORIGINAL CAST NOTE:
pilot episode: There was no Khandi Alexander in the pilot. In the opening credits her name replaces Ella Joyce in the second episode. In the pilot Catherine is referred (spoken?) to but has no lines and only appears in the near background. Tlinafelt ( talk) 16:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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