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A fact from New York Savings Bank Building appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 May 2023 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the New York Savings Bank Building later became "The Grand Palais of Rugs" and the "Temple of Food"?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: promoted by
BorgQueen (
talk) 23:49, 4 May 2023 (UTC)reply
ALT4: ... that the New York Savings Bank Building, empty for seven years, was later acquired by a carpet-store owner who saw the building while driving through the area? Source: Kamen, Robin (March 20, 1995). "Dealer trying to pull rug out from big foes". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 11, no. 12. p. 3.
Overall: QPQ still needs doing. Recommend ALT5 as the hook.
Grnrchst (
talk) 08:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Grnrchst: Thanks for the review. I have now done a QPQ. For what it's worth, these hooks are ordered by preference, which means that ALT5 is actually the hook that I thought was least interesting. Ultimately, though, the promoter can choose whichever hook they think is most interesting.
Epicgenius (
talk) 12:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Earwig shows some reuse of common phrasings. Might watch out for those that can be easily rewritten: "The bank was founded in 1854", "moved out of the building"
Prose comments:
"contains porticos and a dome" – "features porticos and a dome"
"and there is a dome placed asymmetrically" – "a dome is placed asymmetrically"
"originally contained the name" – "was originally inscribed with the name"
"There are stone pedestals with vitrines in front of these blind panels" – "In front of these blind panels are stone pedestals with vitrines."
"The two outer bays, on either side of the entrance, contain blind panels rather than windows at the first story." – "The first story of the two outer bays, situated on either side of the entrance, features blind panels instead of windows."
"The 14th Street elevation is asymmetrical because of its internal layout; it is divided vertically into three sections." – "Because of its internal layout, the 14th Street elevation is asymmetrical and divided vertically into three sections."
"each of which contains a" – "each of which has a"
"There are guttae beneath each window sill" – "Beneath each window sill are guttae"
"The tops of the pilasters contain egg-and-dart moldings and anthemia, and the outermost two pilasters contain paneling." – "Egg-and-dart moldings and anthemia embellish the upper sections of the pilasters, while paneling adorns the outermost two pilasters." Or rewrite such to remove recurrences of "contain"
"This sign is triangular and contains a pair of clock faces." – "This sign is triangular with a pair of clock faces."
"and there is a vitrine below each clock face." – "and below each clock face is a vitrine."
"There is a copper domed roof above the gabled roof." – "Above the gabled roof is a copper dome"
"Although the roof is three stories high, different parts of the interior contain between one and three stories, as there are some triple-height spaces." – "Although the roof is three stories high, the interior features varying levels, ranging from one to three stories, with several areas incorporating triple-height spaces."
"was the banking room, which was accessed" – "was the banking room accessed"
"There was an "L"-shaped beige-marble tellers' counter, which was placed about 15 ft (4.6 m) away from the west and south walls." – "An "L"-shaped beige-marble tellers' counter was placed about 15 ft (4.6 m) away from the west and south walls."
"Each of the ceiling's coffers contains an embossed rosette at its center" – features an embossed
"That October, the bank filed plans for yet another revision to the plans, this time proposing to" – "filed versions to the plans, proposing to"
"$1,504 million" – for a moment I thought it should be 1.504... then I realized it would be much less...
"The facade was cleaned in 1945" – wouldn't polished be a better term?
"89 Eighth Avenue, next to the bank building's annex, in November 1952." – remove the commas
"was considering" – considered
"There was also a hole in the roof, which prompted concerns" – "A hole in the roof prompted concerns"
"the banking hall to designs by Scarano, Englert & Norton." – you mean "the banking hall designed by Scarano, Englert & Norton."
"that dated from 1952" – "dating from 1952"
"operated for three years, closing suddenly in April 2009." – I don't think it's necessary to state it has been opened for three years. "but closed suddenly in April 2009."
Are there reasons for the sudden closure? (Source mentions about restructuring)
Article is rather brief compared to many of your buildings' articles, but still informative and comprehensive. Putting review on hold.--
ZKang123 (
talk) 06:28, 16 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the review @
ZKang123. I have now addressed almost all of these (except for the 1,504 million figure, which should really be 1.504 billion due to inflation). It's a relatively small bank, so I really wasn't able to find as much info on this building compared to some of the other structures I've written about.
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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A fact from New York Savings Bank Building appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 May 2023 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the New York Savings Bank Building later became "The Grand Palais of Rugs" and the "Temple of Food"?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
BorgQueen (
talk) 23:49, 4 May 2023 (UTC)reply
ALT4: ... that the New York Savings Bank Building, empty for seven years, was later acquired by a carpet-store owner who saw the building while driving through the area? Source: Kamen, Robin (March 20, 1995). "Dealer trying to pull rug out from big foes". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 11, no. 12. p. 3.
Overall: QPQ still needs doing. Recommend ALT5 as the hook.
Grnrchst (
talk) 08:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Grnrchst: Thanks for the review. I have now done a QPQ. For what it's worth, these hooks are ordered by preference, which means that ALT5 is actually the hook that I thought was least interesting. Ultimately, though, the promoter can choose whichever hook they think is most interesting.
Epicgenius (
talk) 12:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Earwig shows some reuse of common phrasings. Might watch out for those that can be easily rewritten: "The bank was founded in 1854", "moved out of the building"
Prose comments:
"contains porticos and a dome" – "features porticos and a dome"
"and there is a dome placed asymmetrically" – "a dome is placed asymmetrically"
"originally contained the name" – "was originally inscribed with the name"
"There are stone pedestals with vitrines in front of these blind panels" – "In front of these blind panels are stone pedestals with vitrines."
"The two outer bays, on either side of the entrance, contain blind panels rather than windows at the first story." – "The first story of the two outer bays, situated on either side of the entrance, features blind panels instead of windows."
"The 14th Street elevation is asymmetrical because of its internal layout; it is divided vertically into three sections." – "Because of its internal layout, the 14th Street elevation is asymmetrical and divided vertically into three sections."
"each of which contains a" – "each of which has a"
"There are guttae beneath each window sill" – "Beneath each window sill are guttae"
"The tops of the pilasters contain egg-and-dart moldings and anthemia, and the outermost two pilasters contain paneling." – "Egg-and-dart moldings and anthemia embellish the upper sections of the pilasters, while paneling adorns the outermost two pilasters." Or rewrite such to remove recurrences of "contain"
"This sign is triangular and contains a pair of clock faces." – "This sign is triangular with a pair of clock faces."
"and there is a vitrine below each clock face." – "and below each clock face is a vitrine."
"There is a copper domed roof above the gabled roof." – "Above the gabled roof is a copper dome"
"Although the roof is three stories high, different parts of the interior contain between one and three stories, as there are some triple-height spaces." – "Although the roof is three stories high, the interior features varying levels, ranging from one to three stories, with several areas incorporating triple-height spaces."
"was the banking room, which was accessed" – "was the banking room accessed"
"There was an "L"-shaped beige-marble tellers' counter, which was placed about 15 ft (4.6 m) away from the west and south walls." – "An "L"-shaped beige-marble tellers' counter was placed about 15 ft (4.6 m) away from the west and south walls."
"Each of the ceiling's coffers contains an embossed rosette at its center" – features an embossed
"That October, the bank filed plans for yet another revision to the plans, this time proposing to" – "filed versions to the plans, proposing to"
"$1,504 million" – for a moment I thought it should be 1.504... then I realized it would be much less...
"The facade was cleaned in 1945" – wouldn't polished be a better term?
"89 Eighth Avenue, next to the bank building's annex, in November 1952." – remove the commas
"was considering" – considered
"There was also a hole in the roof, which prompted concerns" – "A hole in the roof prompted concerns"
"the banking hall to designs by Scarano, Englert & Norton." – you mean "the banking hall designed by Scarano, Englert & Norton."
"that dated from 1952" – "dating from 1952"
"operated for three years, closing suddenly in April 2009." – I don't think it's necessary to state it has been opened for three years. "but closed suddenly in April 2009."
Are there reasons for the sudden closure? (Source mentions about restructuring)
Article is rather brief compared to many of your buildings' articles, but still informative and comprehensive. Putting review on hold.--
ZKang123 (
talk) 06:28, 16 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the review @
ZKang123. I have now addressed almost all of these (except for the 1,504 million figure, which should really be 1.504 billion due to inflation). It's a relatively small bank, so I really wasn't able to find as much info on this building compared to some of the other structures I've written about.
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.