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How can this coin be from the 20th century when NY transit authority was established later than that?
Quote: "An NYCTA token from the mid-20th century". Mid 21th maybe? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.234.184.155 ( talk) 19:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
I think the questioner is confused as to the common way centuries are counted. The common "Anno Domini" calendar evolved from one created by a medieval Christian monk who numbered dates starting with the first year after the day on which he thought Jesus was born, e.g., "the first day of the sixth month of the 300th year of our Lord." Today we would write that date either as 6/1/300 or 1/6/300 or 300/06/01. Note that is in the last year of the third century. This system replaced the older convention of numbering dates after the day a monarch was crowned, such as the "the first day of the fourth month of the fifth year of the reign of Hadrian." The 20th century after the day Jesus had been thought to be born began 1/1/1901 and ended 12/31/ 2000. Btm1 ( talk) 19:25, 11 December 2009 (UTC) [1]
After looking at the official NYCS website, it appears that the "official" station names don't have ordinal indicators (e.g. "st", "nd", "rd" & "th"). Why is it that this page and the rest of the NYCS pages use them? And would it be a good idea to change the article names and content to match official standards? Cassius1213 ( talk) 21:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
As far as I can see there is essentially no information about the vertical structure of the NYC Subway system. In the novel Reliquary (Preston & Child) it is mentioned that the subway system has a very complex vertical structure of about twelve depth levels. Furthermore, it is said that there were abandoned tunnels, the so-called Astor tunnels, from the late 19th century at about 100 m (330 ft) below the surface that have once been used by very rich people to avoid the overcrowded ordinary subway. The German WP article about this novel mentions that the informations about the tunnel system given in the book are very close to reality, and that even these Astor tunnels do really exist.
Information about these aspects would be a good addition to this article.-- SiriusB ( talk) 16:04, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Three news articles discuss various attempts to ride the entire subway system in the shortest amount of time possible. Wondering if this notable enough to include in the article. I'm on the fence. Sources are as follows.
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The subway map image on the right column of the page is very old, I do not know how to change it. Has someone considered this issue? It's outdated by almost ten years and omits the Z and W lines (although they are both, I believe, proposed for removal of service which I suppose is another unaddressed issue). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amleth ( talk • contribs) 05:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
The safety and security paragraph only addresses security, not safety. In light of recent accidents in Washington D.C. Metro subway, it would be nice to have a discussion of the safety record of this older, lower technology, subway system. Btm1 ( talk) 19:33, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Section moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation#G Service for centralized discussion. Tinlinkin ( talk) 12:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that the train icons (for example,
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Just found an interesting historical resource: the 1907 World Almanac, available in its entirety on Google Books. It has an article on the NY subways that I discovered while searching for books mentioning Seventh Avenue. See [2] -- ScottyBerg ( talk) 20:29, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
In the period between 1990 and 2003 343 subway-related deaths have been registered on a citywide total of 7.394 (4.6%). - number of what is 7.394? Deaths in general, or transport-related? Or overall number of accidents in the subway?-- Microcell ( talk) 19:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
The article was edited supposedly to combat overrlinking. That may be true, but I have an issue. In here (the comment "Restrooms: who-t-f is going to click on these here?" is funny just because the restrooms here are generally f'ed up), there are few open restrooms relative to the system, 77 stations out of 468/423 [3]. I am not thrilled with the section as it is, but I think the links serve the purpose of knowing where the restrooms are. The acknowledgment of restrooms may be better served in the subarticles of List of New York City Subway stations, but for now, I believe the links are appropriate. Speaking of, some of those stations are ambiguous, DeKalb Avenue and Kings Highway, for instance. Tinlinkin ( talk) 10:42, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I apologize if I'm just blind, but is there any coverage of abandoned tunnels in the New York City Subway system and their history? For example, I know that the Court Street station in Brooklyn was converted to a museum, and when riding I occasionally see dark platforms, but that's all I know. I also seem to recall a story from several years ago mentioning an entire community of people living in the abandoned tunnels from NYCs previous attempts at subways - true/fiction? Is there a page on this? If so, it would be great if a link within this article pointed to it - or am I just really blind? Lexlex ( talk) 09:20, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Best-selling fiction RELIQUARY by Preston and Child relies on the legend of an opulent abondoned line and station. Based on THE MOLE PEOPLE by Jennifer Toth. Could be a corrupted account of City Hall station, long abandoned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.199.108.202 ( talk) 21:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Am I the only one that finds it odd that the article has two shots of elevated portions of the system as the lead infobox images? I think it paints a misleading image of the system. I do like that one is Division A and the other Division B, that makes it more complete. One elevated image and one underground image would do the same. Any good images of a train underground floating around Commons that we could swap into the lead images? oknazevad ( talk) 04:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I need a proofread of my addition to the Paypass trial subtopic I made earlier today. I would like you to edit and make it look better that part of the New York City Subway subject. If you think you can improve its look and text, be my guest to change whatever that needs changing. Thanks. Rockies77 ( talk) 00:34, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Above text copied from User talk:Acps110. Acps110 ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Response to above: I have made some copy-edits to that section as you requested. Specifically, I changed some of the links to where the trial is taking place. I also reworded the second-person "you" statement per WP:YOU.
I added a {{ When}} tag to the previous trial, because that sentence is ambiguous as to when it was extended and when it ended. Acps110 ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
The 129 number of bathrooms needs to be changed. It's an old number and most of all the articles I've read say that 60 of the 129 have been closed. So that's only 69 bathrooms. But I bet it's a smaller number than that. The paragraph reads like there's a lot of bathrooms because whoever wrote it lists a number of bathrooms and it ends up sounding like they're all over the place even though it starts off saying they're "rare". Does anyone know how to get the real number of bathrooms? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jzenman ( talk • contribs) 21:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
The MTA seems to have been contracting recently for private operations to maintain and control access to restrooms in some stations. Times Square is one such; the restrooms are located right next to the record store on the Shuttle mezzanine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.187.34.16 ( talk) 15:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, the article falls short of the good article criteria. The main issue is the lack of proper referencing; in average perhaps half the article is not referenced at the moment. There are a number of other issues as well:
This is an incomplete list of issues, but shows a good starting place. The article is in need of a very thorough copyedit, a partial restructuring of information and a full referencing before being suitable as a good article. Arsenikk (talk) 07:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Whilst I might take issue with one or two of Arsenikk's points, on the whole I agree that the article is nowhere near close to being GA.
The problem, which infects many of the rail and subway articles, is that it is written mostly by railfans, who tend to throw in a lot of details that would quickly lose the average reader. The article is like a basement that hasn't been cleaned in many years, with a huge accumulation of material in no particular order. It is also poorly sourced, containing many statements that are likely true, but that one would be hard pressed to "prove" if asked by a skeptical reviewer.
Getting the article up to GA quality would be a very big job, given the complexity of the subject. Marc Shepherd ( talk) 23:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
In this discussion: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#Growing_abuse_of_WP:DASH_out-of-context_and_as_if_Holy_Writ, the capitalization of "Subway" in this article's title was brought up as an example of how we respect usage of proper names and such. User:oknazevad said, "Just as an FYI, New York City Subway is capitalized as a proper noun," which was based on the title on his MTA New York City Subway map (presumably the official one like here). Has this been discussed here before? I'd be interesting in knowing if there's any good evidence of this being an official or proper name; in books, it appears to be seldom capitalized, except in book titles and section titles (and map titles). Dicklyon ( talk) 06:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
There's nothing in the archive discussion about capitalization of Subway. Just a repeat of your observation, What I mean by "full and proper" is that if you look at the name on the top of the official subway map, it is called the MTA New York City Subway. But as I pointed out, the mta.info web site, "The Metropolitan Transit Authority's official site for the subways of New York City", doesn't call it that, capitalized, except in titles as on your map ( search). Here, for example, they talk about "owner and operator of all New York City subway and elevated lines", and nowhere do they mention the so-called offical proper name. Did anyone else support the interpretation that it's a "proper name"? None that I see there. Dicklyon ( talk) 06:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
We all know that this is not true: that the <6> operates local on the Lexington Avenue Line. How can this be changed?
For now, I've changed it to Lexington Avenue Local / Pelham Express. Level Crossing ( talk) 17:55, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page not moved: no concensus in 17 days. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 15:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
New York City Subway → New York City subway — Evidence in books clearly suggests that this is not usually treated as a proper name; nothing on the operator's website (except for the title on a map, perhaps) suggests that it is the actual name of the system. So we shouldn't capitalize Subway.-- Dicklyon ( talk) 21:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
All uses in the actual system placed by the MTA; signs, maps and equipment use the capitalization. Which holds more water in the real world, the author of some book who has no affilation with the powers that be at 350 Madison Ave, or what said powers plasters all over their trains? people tend to make changes, be it thiey're lazy, don't know or just don't care. the proper spelling of Metro-North has the hyphen, most people when they write just say "Metro North".
[ [10]] is the offical logo of the system. It is attached to almost 8,000 pieces of rolling stock, both passenger carrying and retired and work equipment. It's Subway. If it's not broken, don't fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metropod ( talk • contribs) 20:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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The concept of express, local, and skip-stop service is confusing to many tourists and newcomers; mainly because it does not exist (or exists on a very limited scale) in most other subways across the globe. Currently, the only place in the article that describes these three types of services in any significant detail is one paragraph in 'Overview'; even this paragraph contains unnecessary information (to a newcomer) about the track configuration used on express lines.
While I know that Wikipedia is not a travel guide, I think that there should be a section (most likely a subsection of 'Lines and Routes') about the different types of services and the differences between them.
Level Crossing ( talk) 21:59, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
You seem to have misunderstood my comment. I know what express and local services are; others don't. And there is no description in the article about what they are, besides 'find them on the middle tracks'. This isn't really helpful to a newcomer. I was thinking of inserting something like
"New York has a unique system of express and local trains. Local trains stop at every station along their line, while express trains only stop at major transfer stations and destinations. A third type of service is skip-stop, which only operates during rush hours on the J and Z lines. Skip-stop trains stop at alternate minor stations, and all trains stop at major stations".
Hopefully you see what I mean here.
Level Crossing ( talk) 01:56, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
One of the criticisms of this article was that the lead is too short for such a lengthy article. At the same time, this article has an 'overview' section, which is just a collection of general facts about the subway (which the lead is supposed to be). My suggestion is to remove the overview section and move the information in it to the lead or any other place where it would fit.
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Level Crossing ( talk) 20:54, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
...could one of the New Yorkers please copy the train intervals table and update it to 2011/2012 schedule? Thanks so far. -- User:sbrgc 21:03, 19 Nov 2011 (CET)
I read that this subject was nominated for the designation of "Featured Article" before, but it was rejected in the end. Why did it occur? Has it improved somewhat since then or is there more work needed, to re-nominate the New York City Subway topic for the title again? Rockies77 ( talk) 04:00, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I think this page should have photos of older subway cars (used on the A, B, C, D, G, R, 1, 3, 7 and other lines), not only the newer ones used on the 2, 4, 5, 6, N, Q, E, F, M, L and other lines. The current photos do not accurately show what the NYC Subway looks like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.27.138.244 ( talk • contribs) 00:37, 2012 February 8
In my opinion, article need information about work cellular network in subway. For example, in Russian Wikipedia in article "Moscow Metro" ( http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE#.D0.A1.D0.BE.D1.82.D0.BE.D0.B2.D0.B0.D1.8F_.D1.81.D0.B2.D1.8F.D0.B7.D1.8C_.D0.B8_.D0.98.D0.BD.D1.82.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.BD.D0.B5.D1.82) have part about "Cellular network and the Internet".
Part text (translate): "Cellular network covered most of the stations of the Moscow subway. It also provided many of the bond transitions, bending and moving escalator. However, the availability of coverage and signal strength vary widely, depending on the particular station (movement), as well as the cellular operator."
Also Russian Wikipedia have special article "Cellular network in Moscow Metro" ( http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D0%B2%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8C_%D0%B2_%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5), it's information about each mobile network operator and every station.
Sorry for my English.
AndreyKovalevsky ( talk) 17:23, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
We should start a new section about the impact of Hurricane Sandy. Arguably the most damaging event in the 108 history of the subway. Best if people in the know watch for random posts and pics and keep the information tight, relevant, and with a minimum of hyperbole. Buzzm ( talk) 22:18, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
I will delete the fact that the Montague street tubes were discovered with serious cracks and leaks as this is false. It has been denied by the mta. The webpage on the recovery of the Montague tubes doesn't state this. VMIKEW ( talk) 19:34, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
The opening paragraph makes a reference to rapid transit systems in the US and lists the cable car system in San Francisco as being one. This is false, as the cable car system of San Francisco is not 'rapid'. In fact, the Wiki article for the same systems, found right in this paragraph, does not even list the cable car system as rapid either. The mass transit system of San Francisco includes many forms of transit, some 'rapid', including the cable car system. That system, however, is not 'rapid'. 63.118.154.94 ( talk) 17:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
This is the original text:
Later I emphasized this period by separating paragraphs, but even in the original version it was present. What you call "something unrelated and irrelevant" was after this period, not just semicolon. Vcohen ( talk) 18:30, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Mta.info now says:
Planned Work [F] Coney Island-bound trains run express from Jay St-MetroTech to Church Av
Weekend, 11:45 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Jan 11 - 14
Trains stop at 7 Av.
For service to Bergen, Carroll Sts, 4 Av-9 St, 15 St-Prospect Park and Fort Hamilton Pkwy, take the to 7 Av or Church Av [F] and transfer to a Jamaica-bound [F].
For service from these stations, take the to 7 Av or Jay St-MetroTech and transfer to a Coney Island-bound [F].
Alternate travel note: For service to 4 Av-9 St, transfer to the [R] at Jay St-MetroTech.
Notes: No [G] service at these stations during this time. Smith-9 Sts Station is closed for rehabilitation.
So, F train is temporaily running express on IND Culver Line --contradicts that article which says the express tracks are still useless. 218.22.21.3 ( talk) 13:48, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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I find that this article has not met the GA criteria, and I am failing the nomination at this time. This article continues to have several issues that were identified in the previous failed GAN on October 26, 2010.
As the previous GA reviewer noted:
Of course, this list isn't exhaustive, and I encourage you to read the previous GA review at Talk:New York City Subway/GA1. Additional comments of my own:
Edge3 ( talk) 07:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to put something up to a vote and I think this is the place it is likely to get the most attention. I'm often frustrated by the lack of information on the location of entrances and exits to subway stations in their articles on Wikipedia. When there is such information, as in the article about W 4th St, the information is often vague and confused. While I concede that, given the complexity of the system, making this information available might be a difficult undertaking, but still, this is useful, relevant information, and I would argue that it is just these sorts of difficulties (elucidating esoteric information from esoteric sources) that Wikipedia's crowdsourced model was designed to accomplish, and accomplishes most successfully. I would like us to vote on whether we'd be in favor of attempting to make exact information available in articles on all subway stations. I've already stated what I view as the arguments for and against. Obviously I'm in favor, so count my vote as a yes. Quodfui ( talk) 12:40, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
There is a debate in Toronto, where I live, over alternate plans for developing rapid transit. The NYC subway system is held up as a model for those who favour building a shorter length of underground heavy rail -- as opposed to building amore extensive network of light rail, which would be cheaper to build, because it would run at ground level in a separate right of way, where circumstances permitted.
I've visited Manhattan, which is very richly served by heavy rail lines. But how well served are riders in the outlying and/or less dense regions of NYC? I suspected the proponents of a subway-only rapid transit system were exagerrating and distorting the NYC subway's effectiveness -- based on the ubiquity of subways in very dense Manhattan.
In Brooklyn, The Bronx, Long Island, Staten Island, how many potential riders live too far from a station to be able to walk to a station?
How long does it take a rider to go from a destination at one side of the city to a destination at the other side of the city?
Are trains infrequent at the termini of the longer lines that stretch into the less dense regions?
How do riders coming to NYC from neighbouring cities get on to the NYC subway system? Do they have to ride in on commuter rail?
How convenient is it for a rider traveling from one location on the periphery to another location on the periphery? Do they have to travel all the way downtown to make the right transfers? So, if NYC were a clock, and they were at 1 o'clock, would they have to travel downtown to make the right transfers to head back out to to the less dense portion of 3 o'clock?
I hoped I could find the answers here. But the overall performance of the NYC subway isn't really addressed. Geo Swan ( talk) 12:59, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Is there really a need to mention the nomenclature of other systems, such as said in this statement,This terminology is also used to a loose extent in the Taipei Metro, where trains run on different named "lines" that are part of colored "routes", and on the Washington Metro, where colored "lines" are part of lettered "routes". This article is only about the New York City Subway. By mentioning the nomenclature (or other facts) of other systems, it can go off topic of relating primarily to the New York City Subway. Since there are some editors who seem to be debating over this, please leave comments on this issue. Mysteryman557 ( talk) 04:49, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
I notice that recent updates were made to the numbers for MTA Annual Subway Ridership, which required a lot of work editing every station. This process could be automated by creating a Template database to be read by those infobox parameters. Look at how {{ TRTS ridership}} and {{ TRTS ridership-rank}} are used. Note that if you don't use any punctuation, calculations can be made using those values. Everything could then be updated in one place. There should be some way to create one template of station names with multiple values and switch on the parameter required. Secondarywaltz ( talk) 21:06, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
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The Last lead paragraph in this article seems somewhat out of line... I t seems to be kind of odd, mentioning just two lines services? I think it should be removed. Thoughts? Staglit ( talk) 20:44, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello from the German Wikipedia. There is a question about the announcements on the subway in the German talk: de:Diskussion:New York City Subway#Ansagen. MB-one asks whether the announcements with the connections (e.g. "Transfer is available to the 8, X and Y trains.") are announced when the train is in the station or during the ride between two stations. Maybe somebody of you can answer that. -- U-Bahnfreund ( talk) 08:41, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
See Rubber-tyred metro ? -- Jerome Potts ( talk) 09:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
The lengthy section on crime looks very similar to the nycsubway.org articles about the 1970s and 1980s. [2] [3] I don't have sufficient time or knowledge of wiki definitions of plagiarism to fix the issue, but there are quite a few phrases that are just copied word-for-word. Apparently this has existed since Epicgenius's edits in April.
Some examples that I found in about 30 seconds: "To counteract a 60% jump in crime in 1982, a plan to have uniformed police officers ride the subway between 8pm and 4am was instituted." "Meanwhile, enterprising criminals would steal bus transfers from bus drivers and sell the transfers on the street for 50 cents." "On the IRT Pelham Line in 1980, a sharp rise in window-smashing on subway cars caused $2 million in damages; it spread to other lines during the course of the year. When the broken windows were discovered in trains that were still in service, they needed to be taken out of service, causing additional delays; in August 1980 alone, 775 vandalism-related delays were reported." Level Crossing ( talk) 22:58, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
The text, as with other text in NYC Subway articles, is used with prior permission from the NYCSubway.org website ... but I have paraphrased it a little and also cited the website as a source.Epicgenius ( talk) 01:25, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
For being a hot topic especially in the past couple decades, it's surprising to see how much technical info is missing from [rapid] transit articles. When I first starting looking into the subject extensively, I was surprised to see that there are no reports of the top speed or the more relevant average speed of almost any line or system, even the newer ones in places like China where they are constantly touting new technology, high-speed rail, etc. I believe the lowest published headway on the subway is 2 minutes / 120 seconds on a single track, though when a train gets backed up they've been seen to run up to four (I've seen at least three) trains in a five minute period. B137 ( talk) 21:38, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm concerned that the article has excessive external links, even accounting for the complexity and history of one of the world's largest subway systems. For example, I doubt that separate links are needed to the MTA's Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and Flickr pages, or that some of the "historical information" links cannot be incorporated into the article itself. Conifer ( talk) 08:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
There's no mention of Bernhard Goetz in this article or even a link to his article. This seems like a major oversight in the crime section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dxk3355 ( talk • contribs)
March 10, 2015 5:30 PM
Hi Everyone,
My name is Marco and I am a freshman at Santa Clara University. Over the last 5 months I have been working on a research paper that had to do with the construction of the subway. I would like to contribute to the community, and make my long hours of research live on. Please check out my additions and hopefully the information helps out the page.
Best,
Marco Gaspari — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcoanthonygaspari ( talk • contribs) 00:29, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:38, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
The fact that MTA has a Flickr photo stream that is licensed under CC had been a valuable resource to Wikipedia. I noticed that like almost all mass transit articles this one uses a makeshift homemade map which isn't bad. But then I noticed the Second Avenue Subway page uses a section of the legitimate map with the new line highlighted. It is from the MTA photo stream although it has been taken down but it has been on Wikipedia for two years. Well, they have the full map too which may be subject t copyright but it is their mistake because they put it in the public domain here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/9018373274/
B137 ( talk) 20:41, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
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I will get to this article in the coming days.
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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
1. Is it reasonably well written?
2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
3. Is it broad in its coverage?
4. Is it neutral?
5. Is it stable?
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edit wars, etc:
6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
Plenty of pictures, perhaps even too many. I would consider removing some images from the article, although this is not mandatory.
I would remove a lot of the images from the station subsection when you shorten the station section. I would remove most of the artwork pictures, keeping maybe 2, at most, 3.
Hi, Could someone who is not colour-blind please make the aboveground map into, say, orange-blue rather than red-green? Qalaud ( talk) 20:33, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
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How can this coin be from the 20th century when NY transit authority was established later than that?
Quote: "An NYCTA token from the mid-20th century". Mid 21th maybe? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.234.184.155 ( talk) 19:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
I think the questioner is confused as to the common way centuries are counted. The common "Anno Domini" calendar evolved from one created by a medieval Christian monk who numbered dates starting with the first year after the day on which he thought Jesus was born, e.g., "the first day of the sixth month of the 300th year of our Lord." Today we would write that date either as 6/1/300 or 1/6/300 or 300/06/01. Note that is in the last year of the third century. This system replaced the older convention of numbering dates after the day a monarch was crowned, such as the "the first day of the fourth month of the fifth year of the reign of Hadrian." The 20th century after the day Jesus had been thought to be born began 1/1/1901 and ended 12/31/ 2000. Btm1 ( talk) 19:25, 11 December 2009 (UTC) [1]
After looking at the official NYCS website, it appears that the "official" station names don't have ordinal indicators (e.g. "st", "nd", "rd" & "th"). Why is it that this page and the rest of the NYCS pages use them? And would it be a good idea to change the article names and content to match official standards? Cassius1213 ( talk) 21:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
As far as I can see there is essentially no information about the vertical structure of the NYC Subway system. In the novel Reliquary (Preston & Child) it is mentioned that the subway system has a very complex vertical structure of about twelve depth levels. Furthermore, it is said that there were abandoned tunnels, the so-called Astor tunnels, from the late 19th century at about 100 m (330 ft) below the surface that have once been used by very rich people to avoid the overcrowded ordinary subway. The German WP article about this novel mentions that the informations about the tunnel system given in the book are very close to reality, and that even these Astor tunnels do really exist.
Information about these aspects would be a good addition to this article.-- SiriusB ( talk) 16:04, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Three news articles discuss various attempts to ride the entire subway system in the shortest amount of time possible. Wondering if this notable enough to include in the article. I'm on the fence. Sources are as follows.
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The subway map image on the right column of the page is very old, I do not know how to change it. Has someone considered this issue? It's outdated by almost ten years and omits the Z and W lines (although they are both, I believe, proposed for removal of service which I suppose is another unaddressed issue). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amleth ( talk • contribs) 05:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
The safety and security paragraph only addresses security, not safety. In light of recent accidents in Washington D.C. Metro subway, it would be nice to have a discussion of the safety record of this older, lower technology, subway system. Btm1 ( talk) 19:33, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Section moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation#G Service for centralized discussion. Tinlinkin ( talk) 12:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that the train icons (for example,
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Just found an interesting historical resource: the 1907 World Almanac, available in its entirety on Google Books. It has an article on the NY subways that I discovered while searching for books mentioning Seventh Avenue. See [2] -- ScottyBerg ( talk) 20:29, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
In the period between 1990 and 2003 343 subway-related deaths have been registered on a citywide total of 7.394 (4.6%). - number of what is 7.394? Deaths in general, or transport-related? Or overall number of accidents in the subway?-- Microcell ( talk) 19:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
The article was edited supposedly to combat overrlinking. That may be true, but I have an issue. In here (the comment "Restrooms: who-t-f is going to click on these here?" is funny just because the restrooms here are generally f'ed up), there are few open restrooms relative to the system, 77 stations out of 468/423 [3]. I am not thrilled with the section as it is, but I think the links serve the purpose of knowing where the restrooms are. The acknowledgment of restrooms may be better served in the subarticles of List of New York City Subway stations, but for now, I believe the links are appropriate. Speaking of, some of those stations are ambiguous, DeKalb Avenue and Kings Highway, for instance. Tinlinkin ( talk) 10:42, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I apologize if I'm just blind, but is there any coverage of abandoned tunnels in the New York City Subway system and their history? For example, I know that the Court Street station in Brooklyn was converted to a museum, and when riding I occasionally see dark platforms, but that's all I know. I also seem to recall a story from several years ago mentioning an entire community of people living in the abandoned tunnels from NYCs previous attempts at subways - true/fiction? Is there a page on this? If so, it would be great if a link within this article pointed to it - or am I just really blind? Lexlex ( talk) 09:20, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Best-selling fiction RELIQUARY by Preston and Child relies on the legend of an opulent abondoned line and station. Based on THE MOLE PEOPLE by Jennifer Toth. Could be a corrupted account of City Hall station, long abandoned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.199.108.202 ( talk) 21:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Am I the only one that finds it odd that the article has two shots of elevated portions of the system as the lead infobox images? I think it paints a misleading image of the system. I do like that one is Division A and the other Division B, that makes it more complete. One elevated image and one underground image would do the same. Any good images of a train underground floating around Commons that we could swap into the lead images? oknazevad ( talk) 04:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I need a proofread of my addition to the Paypass trial subtopic I made earlier today. I would like you to edit and make it look better that part of the New York City Subway subject. If you think you can improve its look and text, be my guest to change whatever that needs changing. Thanks. Rockies77 ( talk) 00:34, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Above text copied from User talk:Acps110. Acps110 ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Response to above: I have made some copy-edits to that section as you requested. Specifically, I changed some of the links to where the trial is taking place. I also reworded the second-person "you" statement per WP:YOU.
I added a {{ When}} tag to the previous trial, because that sentence is ambiguous as to when it was extended and when it ended. Acps110 ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
The 129 number of bathrooms needs to be changed. It's an old number and most of all the articles I've read say that 60 of the 129 have been closed. So that's only 69 bathrooms. But I bet it's a smaller number than that. The paragraph reads like there's a lot of bathrooms because whoever wrote it lists a number of bathrooms and it ends up sounding like they're all over the place even though it starts off saying they're "rare". Does anyone know how to get the real number of bathrooms? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jzenman ( talk • contribs) 21:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
The MTA seems to have been contracting recently for private operations to maintain and control access to restrooms in some stations. Times Square is one such; the restrooms are located right next to the record store on the Shuttle mezzanine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.187.34.16 ( talk) 15:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, the article falls short of the good article criteria. The main issue is the lack of proper referencing; in average perhaps half the article is not referenced at the moment. There are a number of other issues as well:
This is an incomplete list of issues, but shows a good starting place. The article is in need of a very thorough copyedit, a partial restructuring of information and a full referencing before being suitable as a good article. Arsenikk (talk) 07:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Whilst I might take issue with one or two of Arsenikk's points, on the whole I agree that the article is nowhere near close to being GA.
The problem, which infects many of the rail and subway articles, is that it is written mostly by railfans, who tend to throw in a lot of details that would quickly lose the average reader. The article is like a basement that hasn't been cleaned in many years, with a huge accumulation of material in no particular order. It is also poorly sourced, containing many statements that are likely true, but that one would be hard pressed to "prove" if asked by a skeptical reviewer.
Getting the article up to GA quality would be a very big job, given the complexity of the subject. Marc Shepherd ( talk) 23:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
In this discussion: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#Growing_abuse_of_WP:DASH_out-of-context_and_as_if_Holy_Writ, the capitalization of "Subway" in this article's title was brought up as an example of how we respect usage of proper names and such. User:oknazevad said, "Just as an FYI, New York City Subway is capitalized as a proper noun," which was based on the title on his MTA New York City Subway map (presumably the official one like here). Has this been discussed here before? I'd be interesting in knowing if there's any good evidence of this being an official or proper name; in books, it appears to be seldom capitalized, except in book titles and section titles (and map titles). Dicklyon ( talk) 06:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
There's nothing in the archive discussion about capitalization of Subway. Just a repeat of your observation, What I mean by "full and proper" is that if you look at the name on the top of the official subway map, it is called the MTA New York City Subway. But as I pointed out, the mta.info web site, "The Metropolitan Transit Authority's official site for the subways of New York City", doesn't call it that, capitalized, except in titles as on your map ( search). Here, for example, they talk about "owner and operator of all New York City subway and elevated lines", and nowhere do they mention the so-called offical proper name. Did anyone else support the interpretation that it's a "proper name"? None that I see there. Dicklyon ( talk) 06:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
We all know that this is not true: that the <6> operates local on the Lexington Avenue Line. How can this be changed?
For now, I've changed it to Lexington Avenue Local / Pelham Express. Level Crossing ( talk) 17:55, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page not moved: no concensus in 17 days. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 15:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
New York City Subway → New York City subway — Evidence in books clearly suggests that this is not usually treated as a proper name; nothing on the operator's website (except for the title on a map, perhaps) suggests that it is the actual name of the system. So we shouldn't capitalize Subway.-- Dicklyon ( talk) 21:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
All uses in the actual system placed by the MTA; signs, maps and equipment use the capitalization. Which holds more water in the real world, the author of some book who has no affilation with the powers that be at 350 Madison Ave, or what said powers plasters all over their trains? people tend to make changes, be it thiey're lazy, don't know or just don't care. the proper spelling of Metro-North has the hyphen, most people when they write just say "Metro North".
[ [10]] is the offical logo of the system. It is attached to almost 8,000 pieces of rolling stock, both passenger carrying and retired and work equipment. It's Subway. If it's not broken, don't fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metropod ( talk • contribs) 20:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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The concept of express, local, and skip-stop service is confusing to many tourists and newcomers; mainly because it does not exist (or exists on a very limited scale) in most other subways across the globe. Currently, the only place in the article that describes these three types of services in any significant detail is one paragraph in 'Overview'; even this paragraph contains unnecessary information (to a newcomer) about the track configuration used on express lines.
While I know that Wikipedia is not a travel guide, I think that there should be a section (most likely a subsection of 'Lines and Routes') about the different types of services and the differences between them.
Level Crossing ( talk) 21:59, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
You seem to have misunderstood my comment. I know what express and local services are; others don't. And there is no description in the article about what they are, besides 'find them on the middle tracks'. This isn't really helpful to a newcomer. I was thinking of inserting something like
"New York has a unique system of express and local trains. Local trains stop at every station along their line, while express trains only stop at major transfer stations and destinations. A third type of service is skip-stop, which only operates during rush hours on the J and Z lines. Skip-stop trains stop at alternate minor stations, and all trains stop at major stations".
Hopefully you see what I mean here.
Level Crossing ( talk) 01:56, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
One of the criticisms of this article was that the lead is too short for such a lengthy article. At the same time, this article has an 'overview' section, which is just a collection of general facts about the subway (which the lead is supposed to be). My suggestion is to remove the overview section and move the information in it to the lead or any other place where it would fit.
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Level Crossing ( talk) 20:54, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
...could one of the New Yorkers please copy the train intervals table and update it to 2011/2012 schedule? Thanks so far. -- User:sbrgc 21:03, 19 Nov 2011 (CET)
I read that this subject was nominated for the designation of "Featured Article" before, but it was rejected in the end. Why did it occur? Has it improved somewhat since then or is there more work needed, to re-nominate the New York City Subway topic for the title again? Rockies77 ( talk) 04:00, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I think this page should have photos of older subway cars (used on the A, B, C, D, G, R, 1, 3, 7 and other lines), not only the newer ones used on the 2, 4, 5, 6, N, Q, E, F, M, L and other lines. The current photos do not accurately show what the NYC Subway looks like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.27.138.244 ( talk • contribs) 00:37, 2012 February 8
In my opinion, article need information about work cellular network in subway. For example, in Russian Wikipedia in article "Moscow Metro" ( http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE#.D0.A1.D0.BE.D1.82.D0.BE.D0.B2.D0.B0.D1.8F_.D1.81.D0.B2.D1.8F.D0.B7.D1.8C_.D0.B8_.D0.98.D0.BD.D1.82.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.BD.D0.B5.D1.82) have part about "Cellular network and the Internet".
Part text (translate): "Cellular network covered most of the stations of the Moscow subway. It also provided many of the bond transitions, bending and moving escalator. However, the availability of coverage and signal strength vary widely, depending on the particular station (movement), as well as the cellular operator."
Also Russian Wikipedia have special article "Cellular network in Moscow Metro" ( http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D0%B2%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8C_%D0%B2_%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5), it's information about each mobile network operator and every station.
Sorry for my English.
AndreyKovalevsky ( talk) 17:23, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
We should start a new section about the impact of Hurricane Sandy. Arguably the most damaging event in the 108 history of the subway. Best if people in the know watch for random posts and pics and keep the information tight, relevant, and with a minimum of hyperbole. Buzzm ( talk) 22:18, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
I will delete the fact that the Montague street tubes were discovered with serious cracks and leaks as this is false. It has been denied by the mta. The webpage on the recovery of the Montague tubes doesn't state this. VMIKEW ( talk) 19:34, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
The opening paragraph makes a reference to rapid transit systems in the US and lists the cable car system in San Francisco as being one. This is false, as the cable car system of San Francisco is not 'rapid'. In fact, the Wiki article for the same systems, found right in this paragraph, does not even list the cable car system as rapid either. The mass transit system of San Francisco includes many forms of transit, some 'rapid', including the cable car system. That system, however, is not 'rapid'. 63.118.154.94 ( talk) 17:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
This is the original text:
Later I emphasized this period by separating paragraphs, but even in the original version it was present. What you call "something unrelated and irrelevant" was after this period, not just semicolon. Vcohen ( talk) 18:30, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Mta.info now says:
Planned Work [F] Coney Island-bound trains run express from Jay St-MetroTech to Church Av
Weekend, 11:45 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Jan 11 - 14
Trains stop at 7 Av.
For service to Bergen, Carroll Sts, 4 Av-9 St, 15 St-Prospect Park and Fort Hamilton Pkwy, take the to 7 Av or Church Av [F] and transfer to a Jamaica-bound [F].
For service from these stations, take the to 7 Av or Jay St-MetroTech and transfer to a Coney Island-bound [F].
Alternate travel note: For service to 4 Av-9 St, transfer to the [R] at Jay St-MetroTech.
Notes: No [G] service at these stations during this time. Smith-9 Sts Station is closed for rehabilitation.
So, F train is temporaily running express on IND Culver Line --contradicts that article which says the express tracks are still useless. 218.22.21.3 ( talk) 13:48, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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I find that this article has not met the GA criteria, and I am failing the nomination at this time. This article continues to have several issues that were identified in the previous failed GAN on October 26, 2010.
As the previous GA reviewer noted:
Of course, this list isn't exhaustive, and I encourage you to read the previous GA review at Talk:New York City Subway/GA1. Additional comments of my own:
Edge3 ( talk) 07:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to put something up to a vote and I think this is the place it is likely to get the most attention. I'm often frustrated by the lack of information on the location of entrances and exits to subway stations in their articles on Wikipedia. When there is such information, as in the article about W 4th St, the information is often vague and confused. While I concede that, given the complexity of the system, making this information available might be a difficult undertaking, but still, this is useful, relevant information, and I would argue that it is just these sorts of difficulties (elucidating esoteric information from esoteric sources) that Wikipedia's crowdsourced model was designed to accomplish, and accomplishes most successfully. I would like us to vote on whether we'd be in favor of attempting to make exact information available in articles on all subway stations. I've already stated what I view as the arguments for and against. Obviously I'm in favor, so count my vote as a yes. Quodfui ( talk) 12:40, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
There is a debate in Toronto, where I live, over alternate plans for developing rapid transit. The NYC subway system is held up as a model for those who favour building a shorter length of underground heavy rail -- as opposed to building amore extensive network of light rail, which would be cheaper to build, because it would run at ground level in a separate right of way, where circumstances permitted.
I've visited Manhattan, which is very richly served by heavy rail lines. But how well served are riders in the outlying and/or less dense regions of NYC? I suspected the proponents of a subway-only rapid transit system were exagerrating and distorting the NYC subway's effectiveness -- based on the ubiquity of subways in very dense Manhattan.
In Brooklyn, The Bronx, Long Island, Staten Island, how many potential riders live too far from a station to be able to walk to a station?
How long does it take a rider to go from a destination at one side of the city to a destination at the other side of the city?
Are trains infrequent at the termini of the longer lines that stretch into the less dense regions?
How do riders coming to NYC from neighbouring cities get on to the NYC subway system? Do they have to ride in on commuter rail?
How convenient is it for a rider traveling from one location on the periphery to another location on the periphery? Do they have to travel all the way downtown to make the right transfers? So, if NYC were a clock, and they were at 1 o'clock, would they have to travel downtown to make the right transfers to head back out to to the less dense portion of 3 o'clock?
I hoped I could find the answers here. But the overall performance of the NYC subway isn't really addressed. Geo Swan ( talk) 12:59, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Is there really a need to mention the nomenclature of other systems, such as said in this statement,This terminology is also used to a loose extent in the Taipei Metro, where trains run on different named "lines" that are part of colored "routes", and on the Washington Metro, where colored "lines" are part of lettered "routes". This article is only about the New York City Subway. By mentioning the nomenclature (or other facts) of other systems, it can go off topic of relating primarily to the New York City Subway. Since there are some editors who seem to be debating over this, please leave comments on this issue. Mysteryman557 ( talk) 04:49, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
I notice that recent updates were made to the numbers for MTA Annual Subway Ridership, which required a lot of work editing every station. This process could be automated by creating a Template database to be read by those infobox parameters. Look at how {{ TRTS ridership}} and {{ TRTS ridership-rank}} are used. Note that if you don't use any punctuation, calculations can be made using those values. Everything could then be updated in one place. There should be some way to create one template of station names with multiple values and switch on the parameter required. Secondarywaltz ( talk) 21:06, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
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The Last lead paragraph in this article seems somewhat out of line... I t seems to be kind of odd, mentioning just two lines services? I think it should be removed. Thoughts? Staglit ( talk) 20:44, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello from the German Wikipedia. There is a question about the announcements on the subway in the German talk: de:Diskussion:New York City Subway#Ansagen. MB-one asks whether the announcements with the connections (e.g. "Transfer is available to the 8, X and Y trains.") are announced when the train is in the station or during the ride between two stations. Maybe somebody of you can answer that. -- U-Bahnfreund ( talk) 08:41, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
See Rubber-tyred metro ? -- Jerome Potts ( talk) 09:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
The lengthy section on crime looks very similar to the nycsubway.org articles about the 1970s and 1980s. [2] [3] I don't have sufficient time or knowledge of wiki definitions of plagiarism to fix the issue, but there are quite a few phrases that are just copied word-for-word. Apparently this has existed since Epicgenius's edits in April.
Some examples that I found in about 30 seconds: "To counteract a 60% jump in crime in 1982, a plan to have uniformed police officers ride the subway between 8pm and 4am was instituted." "Meanwhile, enterprising criminals would steal bus transfers from bus drivers and sell the transfers on the street for 50 cents." "On the IRT Pelham Line in 1980, a sharp rise in window-smashing on subway cars caused $2 million in damages; it spread to other lines during the course of the year. When the broken windows were discovered in trains that were still in service, they needed to be taken out of service, causing additional delays; in August 1980 alone, 775 vandalism-related delays were reported." Level Crossing ( talk) 22:58, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
The text, as with other text in NYC Subway articles, is used with prior permission from the NYCSubway.org website ... but I have paraphrased it a little and also cited the website as a source.Epicgenius ( talk) 01:25, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
For being a hot topic especially in the past couple decades, it's surprising to see how much technical info is missing from [rapid] transit articles. When I first starting looking into the subject extensively, I was surprised to see that there are no reports of the top speed or the more relevant average speed of almost any line or system, even the newer ones in places like China where they are constantly touting new technology, high-speed rail, etc. I believe the lowest published headway on the subway is 2 minutes / 120 seconds on a single track, though when a train gets backed up they've been seen to run up to four (I've seen at least three) trains in a five minute period. B137 ( talk) 21:38, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm concerned that the article has excessive external links, even accounting for the complexity and history of one of the world's largest subway systems. For example, I doubt that separate links are needed to the MTA's Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and Flickr pages, or that some of the "historical information" links cannot be incorporated into the article itself. Conifer ( talk) 08:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
There's no mention of Bernhard Goetz in this article or even a link to his article. This seems like a major oversight in the crime section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dxk3355 ( talk • contribs)
March 10, 2015 5:30 PM
Hi Everyone,
My name is Marco and I am a freshman at Santa Clara University. Over the last 5 months I have been working on a research paper that had to do with the construction of the subway. I would like to contribute to the community, and make my long hours of research live on. Please check out my additions and hopefully the information helps out the page.
Best,
Marco Gaspari — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcoanthonygaspari ( talk • contribs) 00:29, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:38, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
The fact that MTA has a Flickr photo stream that is licensed under CC had been a valuable resource to Wikipedia. I noticed that like almost all mass transit articles this one uses a makeshift homemade map which isn't bad. But then I noticed the Second Avenue Subway page uses a section of the legitimate map with the new line highlighted. It is from the MTA photo stream although it has been taken down but it has been on Wikipedia for two years. Well, they have the full map too which may be subject t copyright but it is their mistake because they put it in the public domain here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/9018373274/
B137 ( talk) 20:41, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
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I will get to this article in the coming days.
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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
1. Is it reasonably well written?
2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
3. Is it broad in its coverage?
4. Is it neutral?
5. Is it stable?
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6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
Plenty of pictures, perhaps even too many. I would consider removing some images from the article, although this is not mandatory.
I would remove a lot of the images from the station subsection when you shorten the station section. I would remove most of the artwork pictures, keeping maybe 2, at most, 3.
Hi, Could someone who is not colour-blind please make the aboveground map into, say, orange-blue rather than red-green? Qalaud ( talk) 20:33, 23 January 2016 (UTC)