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This is a very rosey picture of the NYC schools. This school had 2 kids expelled. What about the issues of underfinancing relative to surrounding school systems and other large urben school systems? What about criticisms from Kozol and others that the NYC school system is as segregated as Alabama's in the 50s? Can we tackle these issues in the entry?
The history section seems to be exclusively about nutritional changes in lunch menus.
The system changed from "Board of Education to "Department of Education" when it became an office of the Mayor. Ultimately, the mayor of New york City is in charge of the Department of Education and is responsible for its success or failures. However, Mayor Bloomberg gives enormous latitude to Chancellor Joel Klein and never seems to question his (Klein's) motives or decisions.
At the city's most elite, competitive public high schools, the student demographics are different. In the 2005-6 school year, blacks made up 4.8% of the Bronx Science student body, down from 11.8% in 1994-95. At Stuyvesant High School, blacks comprised 2.2% of the student body, down from 4.4%. Hispanic enrollment has declined at the three schools and white enrollment has declined at two of the three. At the same time, the Asian population has soared to 60.6% at Bronx Science, up from 40.8% 11 years ago [1]. Education experts suggest the demographics of these elite specialized high schools are influenced by the use of competitive entrance exams as the sole criteria for admission.
Is there any reason to have these large and ungainly templates inserted into the article when the article itself states that they're going to be dissolved in a matter of weeks anyway? Ford MF 17:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
What's with the picture of a greek temple for bronx science?? I don't know how to change it. -- 70.49.57.219 18:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I've put Region 9 Template up for TfD [1]. The rest seem to be articles, not regions. We should delete them, next. In the meantime, the links to the regions need to be removed from a bunch of articles. It occurs to me that a general article about the history of the NYC Board of Education, or at least about its changing structure, might be in order. Can this main article incorporate history? Jd2718 ( talk) 00:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
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The information in this section, especially that the DOE believes that there is a chronic teacher shortage, is either outdated or false. The DOE is in the process of implementing round after round of layoffs and headcount reductions by attrition, and rather than a shortage, there are many teachers unable to find work (the classic definition of a glut).
The current version seems to parrot the circa 2000-2004 NYC point of view rather than being an attempt at an objective presentation and I do feel it needs to be radically changed, both to remove partiality and to bring it up to date with the current environment.
Yartrebo ( talk) 02:35, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
It seems a shame we do not have information about the history of schools in NY City. I imagine it would be an interesting subject. I looked at the NY DOE site and found no cites on that site at first sight. Darned shame. Paul, in Saudi ( talk) 10:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
I blanked the section which was riddled with errors and outdated references, starting with the claim that each neighborhood has a zoned middle and elementary school. It would be good to have a section there, but sources must be current (post-2007, and no earlier). Jd2718 ( talk) 01:44, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
In 2007, it was reported that in the 2005 fiscal year New York City spent $13,755 per student. Ref The Highest Per-Pupil Spending in the U.S. By Sewell Chan (May 24, 2007) New York Times
I dont known which section it fits into? But it should be in the article. -- Vic49 ( talk) 21:14, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
There don't seem to be too many, but I found:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 06:15, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
NYCDOE has websites in multiple languages, and has documents in additional languages.
Of the following languages which have full out websites, these ones do not yet have articles on the NYCDOE:
Of the following languages which have document translations, these ones do not yet have articles on the NYCDOE:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 06:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
I was a student at P.S. 75 Manhattan 1956-61, and it was at that time part of School District 3 (which later became Districts 6 and 8). I don't know when the districts were first set up, but it was the 1950s at the latest.
The article may be talking about the reorganization that changed 3 into 6 and 8, but if so, it needs to be clarified.
P.S. All the NYC school-related articles need updating now that Dictator Bloomberg is gone! Briankharvey ( talk) 20:18, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
"Beginning in the late 1960s, schools were grouped into districts." Briankharvey confirms that there were schools in NYC before the late '60s -- :) -- so why does the History section start there? 71.235.184.247 ( talk) 23:34, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
The Department of Education spends around 25 billion dollars each year.
There has been much discussion around that and it should get a section. Please put comments here and correct any info. Crownch ( talk) 05:36, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
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Does not seem notable enough to require its own article RA0808 talk contribs 22:05, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
The health and nutrition section has NPOV issues, particularly the third paragraph. It's written in a way that criticizes the DoE, particularly the lengthy discussion on Doritos and the seemingly out of nowhere section on playgrounds. agtx 20:56, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect New York City Board of Eduaction. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Reyk YO! 21:31, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
It seems strange that a very small amount of money being used to support a popular literacy program is notable enough to merit inclusion in the criticism section of the article.
The description of the criticism is also biased. According to the sources included in the section, the people opposed to DQSH in NYC schools opposed it because they hate gender nonconforming people, not because they object to the small amount of money used on the program.
Can we get consensus to remove? 2600:1001:B0EC:258:8C7E:E272:774E:1A72 ( talk) 19:42, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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This is a very rosey picture of the NYC schools. This school had 2 kids expelled. What about the issues of underfinancing relative to surrounding school systems and other large urben school systems? What about criticisms from Kozol and others that the NYC school system is as segregated as Alabama's in the 50s? Can we tackle these issues in the entry?
The history section seems to be exclusively about nutritional changes in lunch menus.
The system changed from "Board of Education to "Department of Education" when it became an office of the Mayor. Ultimately, the mayor of New york City is in charge of the Department of Education and is responsible for its success or failures. However, Mayor Bloomberg gives enormous latitude to Chancellor Joel Klein and never seems to question his (Klein's) motives or decisions.
At the city's most elite, competitive public high schools, the student demographics are different. In the 2005-6 school year, blacks made up 4.8% of the Bronx Science student body, down from 11.8% in 1994-95. At Stuyvesant High School, blacks comprised 2.2% of the student body, down from 4.4%. Hispanic enrollment has declined at the three schools and white enrollment has declined at two of the three. At the same time, the Asian population has soared to 60.6% at Bronx Science, up from 40.8% 11 years ago [1]. Education experts suggest the demographics of these elite specialized high schools are influenced by the use of competitive entrance exams as the sole criteria for admission.
Is there any reason to have these large and ungainly templates inserted into the article when the article itself states that they're going to be dissolved in a matter of weeks anyway? Ford MF 17:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
What's with the picture of a greek temple for bronx science?? I don't know how to change it. -- 70.49.57.219 18:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I've put Region 9 Template up for TfD [1]. The rest seem to be articles, not regions. We should delete them, next. In the meantime, the links to the regions need to be removed from a bunch of articles. It occurs to me that a general article about the history of the NYC Board of Education, or at least about its changing structure, might be in order. Can this main article incorporate history? Jd2718 ( talk) 00:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
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The information in this section, especially that the DOE believes that there is a chronic teacher shortage, is either outdated or false. The DOE is in the process of implementing round after round of layoffs and headcount reductions by attrition, and rather than a shortage, there are many teachers unable to find work (the classic definition of a glut).
The current version seems to parrot the circa 2000-2004 NYC point of view rather than being an attempt at an objective presentation and I do feel it needs to be radically changed, both to remove partiality and to bring it up to date with the current environment.
Yartrebo ( talk) 02:35, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
It seems a shame we do not have information about the history of schools in NY City. I imagine it would be an interesting subject. I looked at the NY DOE site and found no cites on that site at first sight. Darned shame. Paul, in Saudi ( talk) 10:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
I blanked the section which was riddled with errors and outdated references, starting with the claim that each neighborhood has a zoned middle and elementary school. It would be good to have a section there, but sources must be current (post-2007, and no earlier). Jd2718 ( talk) 01:44, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
In 2007, it was reported that in the 2005 fiscal year New York City spent $13,755 per student. Ref The Highest Per-Pupil Spending in the U.S. By Sewell Chan (May 24, 2007) New York Times
I dont known which section it fits into? But it should be in the article. -- Vic49 ( talk) 21:14, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
There don't seem to be too many, but I found:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 06:15, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
NYCDOE has websites in multiple languages, and has documents in additional languages.
Of the following languages which have full out websites, these ones do not yet have articles on the NYCDOE:
Of the following languages which have document translations, these ones do not yet have articles on the NYCDOE:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 06:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
I was a student at P.S. 75 Manhattan 1956-61, and it was at that time part of School District 3 (which later became Districts 6 and 8). I don't know when the districts were first set up, but it was the 1950s at the latest.
The article may be talking about the reorganization that changed 3 into 6 and 8, but if so, it needs to be clarified.
P.S. All the NYC school-related articles need updating now that Dictator Bloomberg is gone! Briankharvey ( talk) 20:18, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
"Beginning in the late 1960s, schools were grouped into districts." Briankharvey confirms that there were schools in NYC before the late '60s -- :) -- so why does the History section start there? 71.235.184.247 ( talk) 23:34, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
The Department of Education spends around 25 billion dollars each year.
There has been much discussion around that and it should get a section. Please put comments here and correct any info. Crownch ( talk) 05:36, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
WhisperToMe ( talk) 04:18, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 02:14, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Does not seem notable enough to require its own article RA0808 talk contribs 22:05, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
The health and nutrition section has NPOV issues, particularly the third paragraph. It's written in a way that criticizes the DoE, particularly the lengthy discussion on Doritos and the seemingly out of nowhere section on playgrounds. agtx 20:56, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect New York City Board of Eduaction. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Reyk YO! 21:31, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
It seems strange that a very small amount of money being used to support a popular literacy program is notable enough to merit inclusion in the criticism section of the article.
The description of the criticism is also biased. According to the sources included in the section, the people opposed to DQSH in NYC schools opposed it because they hate gender nonconforming people, not because they object to the small amount of money used on the program.
Can we get consensus to remove? 2600:1001:B0EC:258:8C7E:E272:774E:1A72 ( talk) 19:42, 25 May 2023 (UTC)