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An appropriate edit to be made here is to move the Rothkopf and/or the Marxist interpretations into the intro paragraphs of this article. The last sentence of the intro paragraphs, specifically: "Those political scientists are concerned that mass hysteria over New World Order conspiracy theories could eventually have devastating effects on American political life, ranging from escalating lone-wolf terrorism to the rise to power of authoritarian ultranationalist demagogues", should be followed up by the Rothkopf/Marxist interpretation as a counter to this, in saying that through elite ran neo-imperialism and capitalistic/financial globalization, there is a legitimate risk of western civilization descending into a new form of totalitarianism on a possible global scale. 1-2 extra paragraphs for the intro on this is not a big problem. If there's an argument against, there should be an argument for, one based off of elite theory and geo-political reality, and shouldn't be buried to the bottom half of the article. As it currently stands, this intro is slanted to one side, and can miseducate people on what is a vital civic matter by using loaded words and one-sided analysis for the intro, which most people wont read past especially when so much of the intro is filled with stigmatized, loaded language. Just my two-cents that I feel would make this article much better and educational. I'd attempt the edit myself but its protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.214.235.80 ( talk • contribs) 21:36, 2 August 2021
WEF discussion on the New World Order I know that isn't a reliable source, but when the WEF openly discusses it and says that they're trying to achieve it, then it contradicts the narrative of this article that it's a "conspiracy theory." One of the weirdest things about this topic is that Western establishment media is saying that it's a fallacy, while the WEF elites openly use the phrase in discussions about how they're trying to reorganize global governance. 108.18.156.124 ( talk) 23:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
1. More than one theory is detailed in the article body, hence plural form may be better than singular form. One is inclined to think that there is no single, concerted, unified theory describing a (single, concerted, unified) conspiracy. 2. Why remove brackets? A reason is that the phrase 'New World Order' - in rare but notable cases - is neither a conspiracy, nor referred to by conspiracy theories, as evinced by the ordinary use of the phrase in the New world order (politics) page. Therefore, 'new world order' is a mere descriptor of the 'conspiracy theor[ies]'. Hence, we may agree that the crucial expression in the article title is 'conspiracy theory' rather than 'new world order'. FatalSubjectivities ( talk) 08:19, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Someone needs to update this part under New World Order: they have been blown up. One source: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/28/1113855150/a-georgia-monument-was-destroyed-locals-blame-conspiracy-theories 72.162.228.254 ( talk) 15:59, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
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the NWO being a conspiracy theory.. its not a theory. Ronald Reagan gave a speech citing the words for a future NWO. so did bush sr. get with the facts
this isnt annedit but why ive come to see from wickedpedia. these days- wickipedia is nothing more than liberal agenda trash, hiding truth for a far left narrative.
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A conspiracy just means two or more people are involved in a common goal. So a conspiracy is actually correct for this theory. 104.218.65.3 ( talk) 15:01, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
It's literally the title of a WEF initiative: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/12/we-must-work-together-to-build-a-new-world-order-china-russia-us/ 86.120.128.190 ( talk) 01:56, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
I think that the Denver Airport should be mentioned because many people who believe this New World Order conspiracy usually cite the Denver airport's delays in building, size and large amounts of spending. Maybe a section should be added for it? BasedGigachad ( talk) 21:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
An IP editor recently posted that the article should have a section on the World Economic Forum (WEF). The post was (correctly) removed, as it was essentially just a rant (trying to convince us of the truth of the claim). However, I do think this is something we need to consider. In recent years there has been an increasing trend for NWO conspiracy theorists to focus on their belief that the WEF is somehow tied to the NWO… and that is a trend that I think our article could mention (if for no other reason than completeness in explaining what the theorists claim). I doubt this trend rates an entire section -it is still a relatively new addition to the whole NWO zeitgeist, and thus may not (yet) be commented upon by reliable sources that analyze the shifting trends in NWO theory… but perhaps it does rate a sentence or two in passing? Please discuss. Blueboar ( talk) 14:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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An appropriate edit to be made here is to move the Rothkopf and/or the Marxist interpretations into the intro paragraphs of this article. The last sentence of the intro paragraphs, specifically: "Those political scientists are concerned that mass hysteria over New World Order conspiracy theories could eventually have devastating effects on American political life, ranging from escalating lone-wolf terrorism to the rise to power of authoritarian ultranationalist demagogues", should be followed up by the Rothkopf/Marxist interpretation as a counter to this, in saying that through elite ran neo-imperialism and capitalistic/financial globalization, there is a legitimate risk of western civilization descending into a new form of totalitarianism on a possible global scale. 1-2 extra paragraphs for the intro on this is not a big problem. If there's an argument against, there should be an argument for, one based off of elite theory and geo-political reality, and shouldn't be buried to the bottom half of the article. As it currently stands, this intro is slanted to one side, and can miseducate people on what is a vital civic matter by using loaded words and one-sided analysis for the intro, which most people wont read past especially when so much of the intro is filled with stigmatized, loaded language. Just my two-cents that I feel would make this article much better and educational. I'd attempt the edit myself but its protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.214.235.80 ( talk • contribs) 21:36, 2 August 2021
WEF discussion on the New World Order I know that isn't a reliable source, but when the WEF openly discusses it and says that they're trying to achieve it, then it contradicts the narrative of this article that it's a "conspiracy theory." One of the weirdest things about this topic is that Western establishment media is saying that it's a fallacy, while the WEF elites openly use the phrase in discussions about how they're trying to reorganize global governance. 108.18.156.124 ( talk) 23:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
1. More than one theory is detailed in the article body, hence plural form may be better than singular form. One is inclined to think that there is no single, concerted, unified theory describing a (single, concerted, unified) conspiracy. 2. Why remove brackets? A reason is that the phrase 'New World Order' - in rare but notable cases - is neither a conspiracy, nor referred to by conspiracy theories, as evinced by the ordinary use of the phrase in the New world order (politics) page. Therefore, 'new world order' is a mere descriptor of the 'conspiracy theor[ies]'. Hence, we may agree that the crucial expression in the article title is 'conspiracy theory' rather than 'new world order'. FatalSubjectivities ( talk) 08:19, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Someone needs to update this part under New World Order: they have been blown up. One source: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/28/1113855150/a-georgia-monument-was-destroyed-locals-blame-conspiracy-theories 72.162.228.254 ( talk) 15:59, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
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the NWO being a conspiracy theory.. its not a theory. Ronald Reagan gave a speech citing the words for a future NWO. so did bush sr. get with the facts
this isnt annedit but why ive come to see from wickedpedia. these days- wickipedia is nothing more than liberal agenda trash, hiding truth for a far left narrative.
get writers and editors who are independent, unbiased *factual* writers who write facts not this fictitious narrative 24.184.169.217 ( talk) 18:30, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
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A conspiracy just means two or more people are involved in a common goal. So a conspiracy is actually correct for this theory. 104.218.65.3 ( talk) 15:01, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
It's literally the title of a WEF initiative: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/12/we-must-work-together-to-build-a-new-world-order-china-russia-us/ 86.120.128.190 ( talk) 01:56, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
I think that the Denver Airport should be mentioned because many people who believe this New World Order conspiracy usually cite the Denver airport's delays in building, size and large amounts of spending. Maybe a section should be added for it? BasedGigachad ( talk) 21:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
An IP editor recently posted that the article should have a section on the World Economic Forum (WEF). The post was (correctly) removed, as it was essentially just a rant (trying to convince us of the truth of the claim). However, I do think this is something we need to consider. In recent years there has been an increasing trend for NWO conspiracy theorists to focus on their belief that the WEF is somehow tied to the NWO… and that is a trend that I think our article could mention (if for no other reason than completeness in explaining what the theorists claim). I doubt this trend rates an entire section -it is still a relatively new addition to the whole NWO zeitgeist, and thus may not (yet) be commented upon by reliable sources that analyze the shifting trends in NWO theory… but perhaps it does rate a sentence or two in passing? Please discuss. Blueboar ( talk) 14:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
This is why wiki suffers and constantly has to beg for money.Do a quick web search on Wikipedia's finances and you will find that Wikipedia is doing just fine. Wikipedia asks for donations to be independent from corporate interests.