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what the heck are you talking about????
look at a map for yourself!!!!
Route 18 for several miles runs east-west... it is because it was intended to be two highways instead of one whole...
LOOK AT A MAP!!! THE HIGHWAY RUNS FROM LEFT TO RIGHT FROM MILE 20 TO MILE 14!!!
STOP ADDING THE STUPID CITATION THING... SHEESH Route 82 20:48, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
No they don't need citations, looking at any map will show you the S-curve of Route 18. and researching any page will tell you that the southern portion of Route 18 was intended to be Route 35. So the highway was intended to be two seperate ones.... Route 82 08:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
UGH!!! visit Steve Anderson's site... it explains in there as well has a link to a map... From US Route 9 in Marlboro to the Parkway at Exit 105 was meant to be Route 18... most likely E-W. and from Route 38 (138) to north of the Parkway at Exit 105 was meant to be a *new* Route 35. When that was canceled, the NJDOT combined the already built Route 35 and absorbed it into the current day Route 18. Route 18 itself was never meant to travel down to Wall Township AT ALL! that is what I am meaning by the highway has an unusual S-curve... read it for yourself and take the nuetrality thing off already... and the citations. Route 82 20:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I KNEW U WERE GOING TO CHANGE IT!!! Don't change it back, it's fine the way it is, it was like that for months until you had to complain. Route 82 21:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
SPUI, stop editing "minor junctions" out of pages. If you think they're minor, discuss them first. US 1 is unequivocably a major junction on NJ 18. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 18.139.7.179 ( talk • contribs) 18:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Would Route 36 be considered major at Route 18 with Monmouth Mall and the Racetrack on that road?
Would Route 27 be considered major at Route 18 by New Brunswick, with the Train Station?
-- Nextbarker 16:33, 18 August 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
Plus Route 36 is the only way to get to Sandy Hook, right? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.228.70.72 ( talk • contribs) 00:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey, would County Route 535 be considered major at NJ 18 or not enough traffic, since it's a county route on a major NJ road.
Nextbarker 03:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC) nextbarker
Route 18 wouldn't be considered major at Route 34, 79, 520, or 537, would it?
Nextbarker 06:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC) nextbarker
Since south of US Route 9 it'd be a freeway.
Nextbarker 00:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC) nextbarker
OK, let me put it another way, between US Route 9 and the and NJ 138/I-195, would anymore shields be applicable in the minor junctions, or would that be too many shields to add? Especially south of the GSP, since NJ Route 18 was supposed to be at another area.
Nextbarker 03:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
Does the question still confused you, NORTH?
Nextbarker 03:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
Try this, because Route 18 is a freeway south of US 9, would anymore shields be applicable?
Nextbarker 03:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
Hey, I have second thoughts of adding Route 520, since when you get off Route 18, is don't go onto Route 520 directly. And can you add a CR 537 shield I'm having trouble
Nextbarker 05:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
I thought NJ 33 & NJ 18 intersect in Tinton Falls, is it Neptune?
I thought there was a entering boro of Tinton Falls sign on NJ 33?
Ok, thankx for the confusion.
24.228.70.72 02:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
What's going on on Route 18 in New Brunswick, there making a local/express lanes I read?
Sounds weird to make Route 18 a L/E lanes because you got apartment on Paulus Blvd, but on the other hand, it might be easy, traffic is a nightmare on Route 18 at Route 1 even on the NJTP Route 18 getting into US 1 can be jammed.
Nextbarker 01:09, 18 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
Question, do you live in this area? cause-you seem to know a lot. Yes, the Garden Apartments. Mitch azenia (7500+edits) 03:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
No I don't I'm just reading the Routwe 18 page and it says there making a Local and express lane from Route 1-Route 27, so I'm just wondering.
But it's not true about Route 18 in New Brunswick, is it?
Nextbarker 05:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
How could Route 18 be considered major at Route 9 in Old Bridge, there's only one direction Route 18 North has entrance to Route 9 North as does the other way. Unless you take County Route 520 or Spring Valley Road.
Nextbarker 04:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
I've put this article on hold for the following reasons:
Please fix all of those concerns, and if they are fixed and looked at by me or another GA reviewer, it could be passed. Not a guarantee, though. ( → zel zany - new age roads) 19:45, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Considering that all of the concerns have been met, plus some improvements, I've passed this article. ( → zel zany - new age roads) 20:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Exit 15B on Route 18 goes to Route 38? in Tinton Falls?
-- 24.228.70.72 03:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)nextbarker
I dunno where that comes from, as there is no route 38 in my town... I'm going delete it. -- Darkdan 03:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
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That would be County Road 38, which is also know as Wayside road. Some supporting evidance... [1]
DCwom 12:42, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's your answer:
There's at least a couple of other mistakes too. Exit 22 is for CR 537, not CR 522 (which ends in Freehold). Also, Exit 12 is missing. -- 216.231.34.115 19:20, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Passing this article as a Good Article was definitely premature. It is on its way, but is not currently a GA. There are numerous factual errors, both in the exit list as mentioned above, and possibly a few minor issues in the prose. The punctuation in several places (particularly the exit list) is horrendous. The spacing and usage of the semicolons is inconsistent -- and does not match usage in any other exit lists, or the exit list guide. Some sentences in the prose need work ("...afterwards, 18 continues as road." does not make sense. Was that supposed to be "surface street"?), but this is a minor problem. The major problem is the factual inaccuracies and the lack of maintenance. If an obvious inaccuracy was pointed out on June 11, there's no excuse for it to be ignored for 11 days before it's "fixed".
If you disagree with my delisting, or fix the issues with the article, please take it to Wikipedia:Good article review so it can be passed by consensus, rather than streamlined by a WP:USRD member. -- NORTH talk 02:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Would Route 18 be considered major at Route 27?
-- 24.228.70.72 20:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)nextbarker
This is not a review but a suggestion, the last table is messed up and needs to be fixed. T Rex | talk 20:38, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
In the major freeways box you're missing Route 36 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.70.72 ( talk) 20:36, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
You're missing a Route 36 in the major infobox Route 9 and south box.
-- 24.228.70.72 03:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)nextbarker
Where along Route 18 is Middlesex County Route 700?
-- 24.228.70.72 02:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)nextbarker
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This is a very thorough article and, after discussion with the nominator on IRC; I'm passing this as a good article, however my decision has not be biased throughout this, despite my discussions with the nominator on its improvement. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— Qst 20:32, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Route 18 North at Route 547 is self-explanatory, but where does the GSP come in? I looked at a map and there are no GSP entrances from that side —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.70.72 ( talk) 21:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
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The recent total rewrite does not, in my opinion, improve the article. It is poorly written, not of neutral point of view, and is from one person's perspective. I believe it should be reverted. Njsustain ( talk) 18:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Sheesh, calm down. You're acting like no one else cares about their writing (or can write) Let's see if you can be magnanimous and accept others' edits now. How many times does the route description need to say "a short distance later" or "the route continues" or "this tiny little irrelevant road is next to the road we're talking about" or "then you pass by the McDonalds that was going to be built in 1974" There was simply way too much minutia in the route description. We also didn't need to mention three times that the road was going into New Brunswick. The "tunnel for the Rutgers Tennis courts" is another incorrect and myopic POV. It's a park, and it's not a tunnel, and it was not built exclusively for Rutgers, though two decades later Rutgers took charge of its maintenance. The section is "Route Description", not "my walk along Route 18 northbound in New Brunswick." Anyway, I hope you can appreciate that other people have writing skills also, care about article also, and have their own points of view which have just as much right to be expressed and considered. Njsustain ( talk) 16:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
I want to say up front that the recent major changes by an editor were done in good faith, but after attempting to edit the very tediously and redundantly written route description, I really don't see the point. I think the article was fine (or at least better) before these edits. Specifically, I think the article in this state was best:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=New_Jersey_Route_18&oldid=327862167
I would like to revert the article to that status and ask that only incremental edits, rather than the total trashing and replacing of the text which was done, be considered in the future. I believe that editor's changes were disruptive and of an inappropriate scale to be made without discussion, and did not improve the article. Forgive my bluntness, but as I said, while the changes were done in good faith, the style and content of those changes did not improve the article. Njsustain ( talk) 20:23, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Why is Route 33/66 both mentioned in the info box, don't they both parallel at that point with each other between there split to Route 35? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.61.185 ( talk) 19:38, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
I will leave this open for a week before demoting. -- Rs chen 7754 22:32, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
That's all I have to say regarding general layout and stuff. T C N7JM 22:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Okay, now that the basic stuff is done, I think I'll start with an actual review in a little while. T C N7JM 23:42, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm actually still getting a text placement error with "(Wayside Road)[2]." below the very first picture, try splitting the paragraphs in a different manner or something? T C N7JM 23:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Okay, now for some comments:
Well that's it for the lead and RD. I want you to fix this stuff before I move on to further sections. T C N7JM 00:48, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
That looks to be it for me. T C N7JM 02:05, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Notwithstanding the route inventory, we are either close to or past the time to update this article. I bring the following evidence (which may partly be WP:OR, though sometimes we update highway articles based on observation):
I'd appreciate some thoughts from others. Note: I may begin to edit this article inside <!-- comment marks -->, so that it is ready to go when we decide to pull the trigger. StevenJ81 ( talk) 14:10, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
@ Mr. Matté: Thank you for fixing this up so well. I appreciate that. The one intersection that I would put back in is Hoes Lane–Centennial Ave.–Old New Brunswick Rd., not because it's exceptionally major, but because Route 18 does turn at that point. Do you have a problem with my restoring that? StevenJ81 ( talk) 15:48, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
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what the heck are you talking about????
look at a map for yourself!!!!
Route 18 for several miles runs east-west... it is because it was intended to be two highways instead of one whole...
LOOK AT A MAP!!! THE HIGHWAY RUNS FROM LEFT TO RIGHT FROM MILE 20 TO MILE 14!!!
STOP ADDING THE STUPID CITATION THING... SHEESH Route 82 20:48, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
No they don't need citations, looking at any map will show you the S-curve of Route 18. and researching any page will tell you that the southern portion of Route 18 was intended to be Route 35. So the highway was intended to be two seperate ones.... Route 82 08:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
UGH!!! visit Steve Anderson's site... it explains in there as well has a link to a map... From US Route 9 in Marlboro to the Parkway at Exit 105 was meant to be Route 18... most likely E-W. and from Route 38 (138) to north of the Parkway at Exit 105 was meant to be a *new* Route 35. When that was canceled, the NJDOT combined the already built Route 35 and absorbed it into the current day Route 18. Route 18 itself was never meant to travel down to Wall Township AT ALL! that is what I am meaning by the highway has an unusual S-curve... read it for yourself and take the nuetrality thing off already... and the citations. Route 82 20:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I KNEW U WERE GOING TO CHANGE IT!!! Don't change it back, it's fine the way it is, it was like that for months until you had to complain. Route 82 21:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
SPUI, stop editing "minor junctions" out of pages. If you think they're minor, discuss them first. US 1 is unequivocably a major junction on NJ 18. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 18.139.7.179 ( talk • contribs) 18:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Would Route 36 be considered major at Route 18 with Monmouth Mall and the Racetrack on that road?
Would Route 27 be considered major at Route 18 by New Brunswick, with the Train Station?
-- Nextbarker 16:33, 18 August 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
Plus Route 36 is the only way to get to Sandy Hook, right? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.228.70.72 ( talk • contribs) 00:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey, would County Route 535 be considered major at NJ 18 or not enough traffic, since it's a county route on a major NJ road.
Nextbarker 03:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC) nextbarker
Route 18 wouldn't be considered major at Route 34, 79, 520, or 537, would it?
Nextbarker 06:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC) nextbarker
Since south of US Route 9 it'd be a freeway.
Nextbarker 00:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC) nextbarker
OK, let me put it another way, between US Route 9 and the and NJ 138/I-195, would anymore shields be applicable in the minor junctions, or would that be too many shields to add? Especially south of the GSP, since NJ Route 18 was supposed to be at another area.
Nextbarker 03:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
Does the question still confused you, NORTH?
Nextbarker 03:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
Try this, because Route 18 is a freeway south of US 9, would anymore shields be applicable?
Nextbarker 03:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
Hey, I have second thoughts of adding Route 520, since when you get off Route 18, is don't go onto Route 520 directly. And can you add a CR 537 shield I'm having trouble
Nextbarker 05:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
I thought NJ 33 & NJ 18 intersect in Tinton Falls, is it Neptune?
I thought there was a entering boro of Tinton Falls sign on NJ 33?
Ok, thankx for the confusion.
24.228.70.72 02:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
What's going on on Route 18 in New Brunswick, there making a local/express lanes I read?
Sounds weird to make Route 18 a L/E lanes because you got apartment on Paulus Blvd, but on the other hand, it might be easy, traffic is a nightmare on Route 18 at Route 1 even on the NJTP Route 18 getting into US 1 can be jammed.
Nextbarker 01:09, 18 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
Question, do you live in this area? cause-you seem to know a lot. Yes, the Garden Apartments. Mitch azenia (7500+edits) 03:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
No I don't I'm just reading the Routwe 18 page and it says there making a Local and express lane from Route 1-Route 27, so I'm just wondering.
But it's not true about Route 18 in New Brunswick, is it?
Nextbarker 05:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
How could Route 18 be considered major at Route 9 in Old Bridge, there's only one direction Route 18 North has entrance to Route 9 North as does the other way. Unless you take County Route 520 or Spring Valley Road.
Nextbarker 04:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker
I've put this article on hold for the following reasons:
Please fix all of those concerns, and if they are fixed and looked at by me or another GA reviewer, it could be passed. Not a guarantee, though. ( → zel zany - new age roads) 19:45, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Considering that all of the concerns have been met, plus some improvements, I've passed this article. ( → zel zany - new age roads) 20:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Exit 15B on Route 18 goes to Route 38? in Tinton Falls?
-- 24.228.70.72 03:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)nextbarker
I dunno where that comes from, as there is no route 38 in my town... I'm going delete it. -- Darkdan 03:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
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That would be County Road 38, which is also know as Wayside road. Some supporting evidance... [1]
DCwom 12:42, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's your answer:
There's at least a couple of other mistakes too. Exit 22 is for CR 537, not CR 522 (which ends in Freehold). Also, Exit 12 is missing. -- 216.231.34.115 19:20, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Passing this article as a Good Article was definitely premature. It is on its way, but is not currently a GA. There are numerous factual errors, both in the exit list as mentioned above, and possibly a few minor issues in the prose. The punctuation in several places (particularly the exit list) is horrendous. The spacing and usage of the semicolons is inconsistent -- and does not match usage in any other exit lists, or the exit list guide. Some sentences in the prose need work ("...afterwards, 18 continues as road." does not make sense. Was that supposed to be "surface street"?), but this is a minor problem. The major problem is the factual inaccuracies and the lack of maintenance. If an obvious inaccuracy was pointed out on June 11, there's no excuse for it to be ignored for 11 days before it's "fixed".
If you disagree with my delisting, or fix the issues with the article, please take it to Wikipedia:Good article review so it can be passed by consensus, rather than streamlined by a WP:USRD member. -- NORTH talk 02:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Would Route 18 be considered major at Route 27?
-- 24.228.70.72 20:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)nextbarker
This is not a review but a suggestion, the last table is messed up and needs to be fixed. T Rex | talk 20:38, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
In the major freeways box you're missing Route 36 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.70.72 ( talk) 20:36, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
You're missing a Route 36 in the major infobox Route 9 and south box.
-- 24.228.70.72 03:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)nextbarker
Where along Route 18 is Middlesex County Route 700?
-- 24.228.70.72 02:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)nextbarker
I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of December 18, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:
This is a very thorough article and, after discussion with the nominator on IRC; I'm passing this as a good article, however my decision has not be biased throughout this, despite my discussions with the nominator on its improvement. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— Qst 20:32, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Route 18 North at Route 547 is self-explanatory, but where does the GSP come in? I looked at a map and there are no GSP entrances from that side —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.70.72 ( talk) 21:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
This article has failed the USRD GA audit and will be sent to WP:GAR if the issues are not resolved within one week. Please see WT:USRD for more details, and please ask me if you have any questions as to why this article failed. -- Rschen7754 ( T C) 03:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
The recent total rewrite does not, in my opinion, improve the article. It is poorly written, not of neutral point of view, and is from one person's perspective. I believe it should be reverted. Njsustain ( talk) 18:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Sheesh, calm down. You're acting like no one else cares about their writing (or can write) Let's see if you can be magnanimous and accept others' edits now. How many times does the route description need to say "a short distance later" or "the route continues" or "this tiny little irrelevant road is next to the road we're talking about" or "then you pass by the McDonalds that was going to be built in 1974" There was simply way too much minutia in the route description. We also didn't need to mention three times that the road was going into New Brunswick. The "tunnel for the Rutgers Tennis courts" is another incorrect and myopic POV. It's a park, and it's not a tunnel, and it was not built exclusively for Rutgers, though two decades later Rutgers took charge of its maintenance. The section is "Route Description", not "my walk along Route 18 northbound in New Brunswick." Anyway, I hope you can appreciate that other people have writing skills also, care about article also, and have their own points of view which have just as much right to be expressed and considered. Njsustain ( talk) 16:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
I want to say up front that the recent major changes by an editor were done in good faith, but after attempting to edit the very tediously and redundantly written route description, I really don't see the point. I think the article was fine (or at least better) before these edits. Specifically, I think the article in this state was best:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=New_Jersey_Route_18&oldid=327862167
I would like to revert the article to that status and ask that only incremental edits, rather than the total trashing and replacing of the text which was done, be considered in the future. I believe that editor's changes were disruptive and of an inappropriate scale to be made without discussion, and did not improve the article. Forgive my bluntness, but as I said, while the changes were done in good faith, the style and content of those changes did not improve the article. Njsustain ( talk) 20:23, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Why is Route 33/66 both mentioned in the info box, don't they both parallel at that point with each other between there split to Route 35? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.61.185 ( talk) 19:38, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
I will leave this open for a week before demoting. -- Rs chen 7754 22:32, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
That's all I have to say regarding general layout and stuff. T C N7JM 22:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Okay, now that the basic stuff is done, I think I'll start with an actual review in a little while. T C N7JM 23:42, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm actually still getting a text placement error with "(Wayside Road)[2]." below the very first picture, try splitting the paragraphs in a different manner or something? T C N7JM 23:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Okay, now for some comments:
Well that's it for the lead and RD. I want you to fix this stuff before I move on to further sections. T C N7JM 00:48, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
That looks to be it for me. T C N7JM 02:05, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Notwithstanding the route inventory, we are either close to or past the time to update this article. I bring the following evidence (which may partly be WP:OR, though sometimes we update highway articles based on observation):
I'd appreciate some thoughts from others. Note: I may begin to edit this article inside <!-- comment marks -->, so that it is ready to go when we decide to pull the trigger. StevenJ81 ( talk) 14:10, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
@ Mr. Matté: Thank you for fixing this up so well. I appreciate that. The one intersection that I would put back in is Hoes Lane–Centennial Ave.–Old New Brunswick Rd., not because it's exceptionally major, but because Route 18 does turn at that point. Do you have a problem with my restoring that? StevenJ81 ( talk) 15:48, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
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