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Looking at those two pictures on the page, I have to ask what exactly is unique about these pizzas? The upper picture shows a pizza with clams, which is surely an uncommon ingredient, but it just doesn't seem to warrant its own page. The lower one just looks like every other traditional pizza I have seen. If these are examples of so-called "New Haven style" pizza, it makes me skeptical about this type of pizza being notable. Has anyone noticed that the previous vote for deletion of this page saw participation mostly from people who dine at Sally's and Pepe's pizzerias? It makes me feel that those votes were cast more for having an article about their favorite pizzerias rather than on notability. I guess this is how wikipedia makes decisions, but I wonder if the same decision would have been reached with more participants in the discussion. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 18.96.6.11 ( talk) 19:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Markvs88 ( talk) 16:52, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Since several restarants serving New Haven style pizza use gas or wood ovens should the cooking method be rephrased as a brick oven often coal fired? Colonial Computer 19:31, 6 March 2022 (UTC) â Preceding unsigned comment added by 22yearswothanks ( talk ⢠contribs)
The notability of "New Haven-style pizza" is a complete non-issue, though some of the underlying reality remains a bit mysterious even to those who think they understand.
You want to get a pizza in New Haven and one would then simply say "let's get a pizza," regardless of ethnic background. This is just an obvious fact that a literal reader might miss (though probably not). I'm afraid there are no published sources on this, however. Badiacrushed ( talk) 01:50, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Any way for this to be encyclopedic? I'm not sure how relevant a style of pizza in one particular town is. Would this ever be verifiable? Friday 17:34, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
See: VfD Frank Pepe
FWIW, there are also already articles on New York-style pizza, Chicago-style pizza, and St. Louis-style pizza. I think these are all relevant to serious discussion of different styles and traditions of pizza, as well as to the local cuisine of the particular cities. Dr.frog 22:50, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
New Haven pizza is a type of pizza along the lines of Chicago style or New York Style. The article has relevance in the history of pizza as well as in the general typology of pizza. People travel great distances and line up for hours to buy New Haven pizza partially for its unique taste and partially for its historical significance. If somebody wanted an explanation for this behavior, it would be natural for many to look up New Haven pizza on Wikipedia. In addition, it's natural for people visiting the area to want to know what "Apizza" is and why it only seems to be in the New Haven area. For these reasons, it seems the best service to the public would be for the article to stay and be improved if possible. 71.235.99.181 ( talk) 00:38, 22 December 2007 (UTC)Greg
This article is utterly non encyclopedic, as well as the article on Frank Pepe Pizzeria Napoletana. I have eaten pizza for extended periods of time in Italy, Germany, France, USA and Switzerland (not in that order). Above all that type of Pizza is known as Napoletana: the adjective at the end of Frank Pepe's pizzeria is not just an indication of where the founder originates, but it labels the type of pizza. So New-Have style is at best a misnomer for Napoletana (or Neapolitan if you prefer). The fact that in time, people with limited exposure to pizza, have started to think that that style is New Haven's own, doesn't make it right.-- Gciriani ( talk) 16:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not getting your point. Could you be more specific please?-- Gciriani ( talk) 20:55, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I've eaten twice at Pepe's with my wife, and I can tell you (and she confirms), that that you can eat that kind of Pizza in several other places across the ocean that have never heard of New-Haven style. Napoletana covers a broad spectrum of thickness. Pepe's is on the thin side, but I repeat I have had exactly that thickness in other places, both restaurants and bakeries, that serve it on the spot while you buy bread. As for the Roman Army ration, is that true and from a reliable source? I'd never heard of it; what I'd heard was that pizza in its modern recipe, was an invention of the 1800's to honor the visit of a queen to Naples (Margherita, hence the name), but I never verified it and I would not be surprised if this was a false popular belief as well. âPreceding unsigned comment added by Gciriani ( talk ⢠contribs) 20:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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Is there a need for a list of other cities where Apizza is? It seems both unnecessary for this page as well as not possible to be complete. I am removing it for now, but if someone wants to discuss, please feel free to leave a note here and revert later. ChunyangD ( talk) 03:10, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Gorman Bechard produced Pizza: A Love Story a documentary on the history of New Haven Pizza. He has interviews with celebrities such as Michael Bolton, Henry Winkler and Lyle Lovett talking about 3 nationaly renouned New Haven pizzarias. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 22yearswothanks ( talk ⢠contribs) 19:47, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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Looking at those two pictures on the page, I have to ask what exactly is unique about these pizzas? The upper picture shows a pizza with clams, which is surely an uncommon ingredient, but it just doesn't seem to warrant its own page. The lower one just looks like every other traditional pizza I have seen. If these are examples of so-called "New Haven style" pizza, it makes me skeptical about this type of pizza being notable. Has anyone noticed that the previous vote for deletion of this page saw participation mostly from people who dine at Sally's and Pepe's pizzerias? It makes me feel that those votes were cast more for having an article about their favorite pizzerias rather than on notability. I guess this is how wikipedia makes decisions, but I wonder if the same decision would have been reached with more participants in the discussion. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 18.96.6.11 ( talk) 19:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Markvs88 ( talk) 16:52, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Since several restarants serving New Haven style pizza use gas or wood ovens should the cooking method be rephrased as a brick oven often coal fired? Colonial Computer 19:31, 6 March 2022 (UTC) â Preceding unsigned comment added by 22yearswothanks ( talk ⢠contribs)
The notability of "New Haven-style pizza" is a complete non-issue, though some of the underlying reality remains a bit mysterious even to those who think they understand.
You want to get a pizza in New Haven and one would then simply say "let's get a pizza," regardless of ethnic background. This is just an obvious fact that a literal reader might miss (though probably not). I'm afraid there are no published sources on this, however. Badiacrushed ( talk) 01:50, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Any way for this to be encyclopedic? I'm not sure how relevant a style of pizza in one particular town is. Would this ever be verifiable? Friday 17:34, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
See: VfD Frank Pepe
FWIW, there are also already articles on New York-style pizza, Chicago-style pizza, and St. Louis-style pizza. I think these are all relevant to serious discussion of different styles and traditions of pizza, as well as to the local cuisine of the particular cities. Dr.frog 22:50, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
New Haven pizza is a type of pizza along the lines of Chicago style or New York Style. The article has relevance in the history of pizza as well as in the general typology of pizza. People travel great distances and line up for hours to buy New Haven pizza partially for its unique taste and partially for its historical significance. If somebody wanted an explanation for this behavior, it would be natural for many to look up New Haven pizza on Wikipedia. In addition, it's natural for people visiting the area to want to know what "Apizza" is and why it only seems to be in the New Haven area. For these reasons, it seems the best service to the public would be for the article to stay and be improved if possible. 71.235.99.181 ( talk) 00:38, 22 December 2007 (UTC)Greg
This article is utterly non encyclopedic, as well as the article on Frank Pepe Pizzeria Napoletana. I have eaten pizza for extended periods of time in Italy, Germany, France, USA and Switzerland (not in that order). Above all that type of Pizza is known as Napoletana: the adjective at the end of Frank Pepe's pizzeria is not just an indication of where the founder originates, but it labels the type of pizza. So New-Have style is at best a misnomer for Napoletana (or Neapolitan if you prefer). The fact that in time, people with limited exposure to pizza, have started to think that that style is New Haven's own, doesn't make it right.-- Gciriani ( talk) 16:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not getting your point. Could you be more specific please?-- Gciriani ( talk) 20:55, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I've eaten twice at Pepe's with my wife, and I can tell you (and she confirms), that that you can eat that kind of Pizza in several other places across the ocean that have never heard of New-Haven style. Napoletana covers a broad spectrum of thickness. Pepe's is on the thin side, but I repeat I have had exactly that thickness in other places, both restaurants and bakeries, that serve it on the spot while you buy bread. As for the Roman Army ration, is that true and from a reliable source? I'd never heard of it; what I'd heard was that pizza in its modern recipe, was an invention of the 1800's to honor the visit of a queen to Naples (Margherita, hence the name), but I never verified it and I would not be surprised if this was a false popular belief as well. âPreceding unsigned comment added by Gciriani ( talk ⢠contribs) 20:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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Is there a need for a list of other cities where Apizza is? It seems both unnecessary for this page as well as not possible to be complete. I am removing it for now, but if someone wants to discuss, please feel free to leave a note here and revert later. ChunyangD ( talk) 03:10, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Gorman Bechard produced Pizza: A Love Story a documentary on the history of New Haven Pizza. He has interviews with celebrities such as Michael Bolton, Henry Winkler and Lyle Lovett talking about 3 nationaly renouned New Haven pizzarias. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 22yearswothanks ( talk ⢠contribs) 19:47, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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