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The thrust data for the fist and second stage engines does not list whether it is sea level or vacuum thrust. This is inadequate. Has any extensive data been published? You cannot simply use the thrust level for the sea-level engines for the upper stage, especially when the engine is the "U" model optimized for vacuum thrust.-- Winged Brick ( talk) 19:56, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Is there any information anywhere on what the payload to low Earth orbit is projected to be for the 2-stage and the 3-stage versions of the New Glenn? N2e ( talk) 19:10, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
This article ( Why Bezos’ rocket is unprecedented—and worth taking seriously, in Ars Technica) has the following quote from Bezos:
"My view is you make plans for the near future, and you develop scenarios for the longer term, because so many things will change between now and then it doesn't make sense to make detailed plans for things like how you're going to do harvesting of resources from near-Earth objects. You want to think about those things, you want to develop scenarios, but you don't need to go all the way to a planning stage." (emphasis added)
Useful perspective for writing of wiki-prose describing the more longer term plansscenarios of Bezos (like the longer-term uses of New Glenn, or the existence and thinking around the
New Armstrong, whatever that turns out to be). Cheers.
N2e (
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20:58, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Blue announced a number of new contracts on their twitter feed today, including this one: SKY Perfect JSAT. I would expect we'll see good secondary sources for these in a day or two. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 21:40, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Second stage will have two BE-3U instead of one BE-4U and become somewhat longer. Information on Blue Origin website is outdated. [1] -- PM3 ( talk) 02:24, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
It does not appear that these have been noted here before. Bezos is continuing his pattern, begun in 2015, of actually talking relatively freely, and taking interview questions, about his space interests and entrepreneurial venture. After 15 years of being extremely limited in releasing information.
The second interview below, which included the introduction of Eutelsat as the first launch contract for New Glenn, has quite a bit of New Glenn info in it, including an overview animation video. N2e ( talk) 03:00, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Though it is indeed partially funded privately, around $500 Million(a significant cost of a rocket development program) will come from the US Air Force. This is a recent development. Source - https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1658765/air-force-awards-three-launch-service-agreements/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:714D:E167:2603:3D0B:2982:134 ( talk) 07:17, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
The New Glenn photos released in various places on the web the past week or two are different. Longer rocket overall, MUCH longer second stage. Plus entirely new paint scheme is shown (e.g., much smaller "feather" image, only on the second stage, etc.)
The much larger second stage makes sense. Blue have switched from the methalox BE-4U engine powering the second sate to the hrydrolox BE-3U engine. Liquid hydrogen is much less dense than is liquid methane, so much larger stage volume is needed to carry the same amount of fuel-energy. N2e ( talk) 15:27, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks XYZt.The new graphic brings the article graphics up to date. N2e ( talk) 12:27, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
This is fairly unusual compared to other rocket articles. – XYZt ( talk | contribs) – 07:54, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
The rev C payload user guide is dated Oct 2018 - Looks like a definite ref for much detail, eg on payload fairing options. Is there any policy not to reference it due to it being on-request from Blue Origin ? - Rod57 ( talk) 11:00, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Certain paragraphs still refer to as of 2018 even though it is now March 2020. Please consider updating so that readers can know whether the activity in question had been completed or is still pending. Thanks. Abul Bakhtiar 103.60.175.28 ( talk) 02:49, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Why does infobox describe 2nd stage as Centaur ? Is it just an erroneous carry over from Vulcan-Centaur ? - Rod57 ( talk) 18:38, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
There is a lot of content in the article, as well as sufficient reference. In my opinion, an active editor should nominate this article! CactiStaccingCrane ( talk) 13:12, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
News that might be useful as a reference
• Sbmeirow • Talk • 06:47, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
Someone has put together a lovely and informative chart comparing the development time and slips in planned launch dates for a number of recent new launch vehicles. Very relevant comparative info, in my view. Shows New Glenn in context with Ariane 6 Starship, Vulcan, and others. launch vehicle announce/planned_launch/first_launch chart by Ken Kirtland
Perhaps Kirtland might be interested in releasing that chart under CC license, or someone might make up a new one (as long as it has good sources). — N2e ( talk) 01:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
The vehicle was shown on a launch pad in February 2024. Is it possible to replace the main photo which is currently an illustration to one of the images shown of the actual rocket from the blue origin website? 73.210.30.217 ( talk) 21:01, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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This link, although not a reliable source in itself, provides information and pointers to various regulatory documents filed with the US Federal government that would be reliable sources, and could be used to improve the article.
The thrust data for the fist and second stage engines does not list whether it is sea level or vacuum thrust. This is inadequate. Has any extensive data been published? You cannot simply use the thrust level for the sea-level engines for the upper stage, especially when the engine is the "U" model optimized for vacuum thrust.-- Winged Brick ( talk) 19:56, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Is there any information anywhere on what the payload to low Earth orbit is projected to be for the 2-stage and the 3-stage versions of the New Glenn? N2e ( talk) 19:10, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
This article ( Why Bezos’ rocket is unprecedented—and worth taking seriously, in Ars Technica) has the following quote from Bezos:
"My view is you make plans for the near future, and you develop scenarios for the longer term, because so many things will change between now and then it doesn't make sense to make detailed plans for things like how you're going to do harvesting of resources from near-Earth objects. You want to think about those things, you want to develop scenarios, but you don't need to go all the way to a planning stage." (emphasis added)
Useful perspective for writing of wiki-prose describing the more longer term plansscenarios of Bezos (like the longer-term uses of New Glenn, or the existence and thinking around the
New Armstrong, whatever that turns out to be). Cheers.
N2e (
talk)
20:58, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Blue announced a number of new contracts on their twitter feed today, including this one: SKY Perfect JSAT. I would expect we'll see good secondary sources for these in a day or two. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 21:40, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Second stage will have two BE-3U instead of one BE-4U and become somewhat longer. Information on Blue Origin website is outdated. [1] -- PM3 ( talk) 02:24, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
It does not appear that these have been noted here before. Bezos is continuing his pattern, begun in 2015, of actually talking relatively freely, and taking interview questions, about his space interests and entrepreneurial venture. After 15 years of being extremely limited in releasing information.
The second interview below, which included the introduction of Eutelsat as the first launch contract for New Glenn, has quite a bit of New Glenn info in it, including an overview animation video. N2e ( talk) 03:00, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Though it is indeed partially funded privately, around $500 Million(a significant cost of a rocket development program) will come from the US Air Force. This is a recent development. Source - https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1658765/air-force-awards-three-launch-service-agreements/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:714D:E167:2603:3D0B:2982:134 ( talk) 07:17, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
The New Glenn photos released in various places on the web the past week or two are different. Longer rocket overall, MUCH longer second stage. Plus entirely new paint scheme is shown (e.g., much smaller "feather" image, only on the second stage, etc.)
The much larger second stage makes sense. Blue have switched from the methalox BE-4U engine powering the second sate to the hrydrolox BE-3U engine. Liquid hydrogen is much less dense than is liquid methane, so much larger stage volume is needed to carry the same amount of fuel-energy. N2e ( talk) 15:27, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks XYZt.The new graphic brings the article graphics up to date. N2e ( talk) 12:27, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
This is fairly unusual compared to other rocket articles. – XYZt ( talk | contribs) – 07:54, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
The rev C payload user guide is dated Oct 2018 - Looks like a definite ref for much detail, eg on payload fairing options. Is there any policy not to reference it due to it being on-request from Blue Origin ? - Rod57 ( talk) 11:00, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Certain paragraphs still refer to as of 2018 even though it is now March 2020. Please consider updating so that readers can know whether the activity in question had been completed or is still pending. Thanks. Abul Bakhtiar 103.60.175.28 ( talk) 02:49, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Why does infobox describe 2nd stage as Centaur ? Is it just an erroneous carry over from Vulcan-Centaur ? - Rod57 ( talk) 18:38, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
There is a lot of content in the article, as well as sufficient reference. In my opinion, an active editor should nominate this article! CactiStaccingCrane ( talk) 13:12, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
News that might be useful as a reference
• Sbmeirow • Talk • 06:47, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
Someone has put together a lovely and informative chart comparing the development time and slips in planned launch dates for a number of recent new launch vehicles. Very relevant comparative info, in my view. Shows New Glenn in context with Ariane 6 Starship, Vulcan, and others. launch vehicle announce/planned_launch/first_launch chart by Ken Kirtland
Perhaps Kirtland might be interested in releasing that chart under CC license, or someone might make up a new one (as long as it has good sources). — N2e ( talk) 01:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
The vehicle was shown on a launch pad in February 2024. Is it possible to replace the main photo which is currently an illustration to one of the images shown of the actual rocket from the blue origin website? 73.210.30.217 ( talk) 21:01, 28 March 2024 (UTC)