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"Stefanie Reines of Drive-Thru Records heard the album from the band Midtown and later re-released the album in 1999" Could someone please rewrite that sentance to be less confusing. Did the band Midtown pass a copy of NFG's album on to Stefanie? Or what else was it that happened?
Can we please stop putting James down for a current member? The band already announced that he is not part of the band anymore. New Found Glory only has five members. Source: [1] -- Sharpdust 22:25, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
Does anybody have any suggestions as to what is necessary for this article as well as New Found Glory-related articles. The singles chart has been added, the " This Disaster" article has been created, what else? More singles articles? I made the " All Downhill From Here" one but the only other one that I feel needs creation is "My Friends Over You". Maybe a category for New Found Glory albums? I don't think that "The Story So Far" DVD warrants an article, if somebody feels differently go for it. But anyways, if anybody's got some good suggestions, post them, there surprisingly is not a lot of discussion on this band. Sharpdust 07:32, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
These guys are totally emo, not remotely hardcore. Let's get this fixed.
Isn't 1 of their genres 'Emo' or something? Another genre debate.. but I gotta know. I mean, I was told they're Emo, and they even appeared on MTV2 on "So Emo-Tional"... Just need to know.. -Dor—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.178.208.233 ( talk • contribs) .
Alright, well I removed their genre Melodic Hardcore because the band is definitely the farthest thing from it. They have soft melodies, and sing extremely high-pitched. If you want to hear Melodic Hardcore try looking up some bands that are mentioned on the Melodic Hardcore wikipedia page, you’ll notice they sound nothing at all like New Found Glory. As much as it seems some of you would like this band to be hardcore and all that, they are not. Please just accept they are nothing more than a Pop-punk band and stop changing their genre. leave it the way it is. Thank you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.141.184.10 ( talk • contribs).
Alright I agree that they have some hardcore influence BUT since when does a band's genre come from what they're influenced by? If a band is influenced by Classical music does that put them in the classical genre? I don't think so, so why would the fact that a band is influenced by hardcore music doesn't set thim in the Melodic Hardcore genre? Scubster 03:05, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
The band has gone back to Drive-Thru Records according to their website. Maybe this change should be made to the professional career section. Everelusive 04:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Ellioteaton ( talk) 21:06, 24 March 2010 (UTC)There's a mistake in the linking- Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno redirects to this page as a "former member" if you click on his name from the Chicago Aldermen page.
I have created an article for my friends over you, mainly because this is their breakthrough song, at least onto the commercial scene, feel free to add or takeaway as long as it improves the article01:31, 21 August 2006 (UTC) Titch31
I think the members' seperate articles have been tagged "merge into New Found Glory" long enough (a Grushka article doesn't even exist) and there were mostly no opposing arguments against a move. I still don't think what little information is there on each member warrants an article on its own, so a merge would in my opinion be appropriate. I put a little temp page together at User:HarryCane/New_Found_Glory_members. I'm going to do my best and reference what's there, and I'd love it if we could somehow get a license-free headshot of each member (preferrably cropped from one photograph) to accompany their subsection. Let me know what you think. -- HarryCane 10:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
'My friends over you' was the last video ever played on Much Music before it changed its name to Fuse. We should add that to there somewhere. The Clydelishes Clyde 21:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Might also want to add that Steve Klein is married and has a daughter named Presley Rae. Everelusive 04:47, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
HarryCane, I found your comment about emo as a genre not existing anymore very interesting. I agree with you on several fronts, emo has become a very scene oriented medium and the term is being thrown around very haphazerdly these days. However I think it's premature to say that it's died as a musical genre, it might be very different than it was a decade ago, but there's still lots of music being produced, marketed and recieved as emo, in fact I think it's quite anaologous to what has happened with punk in general. Is the punk that high schoolers gorwing up in the 80's and 90's knew dead? If you judge by the commercial music industry, then yes. Go to any high school and you'll find that punk has become much more of an image, clique or in the music industy, umbrella term for several niche alternative rock genres, than it once was. And yet there are literally dozens of groups still producing music that is being labeled and recieved as punk. The same thing, I believe, can be said for emo. Emo as far as anyone in the mid 90's knew it may be gone, but the same can be said for punk, ska, goth rock or a multitude of other subgenres, heck alternative rock in general doesn't exist as we once knew it and yet the label is still carried on to the new generation. The fact is that many bands are producing music they label as emo, the record labels then market and sell that music as emo and the fans and radio stations recieve it as emo. It might not be emo in the classical sense but that's what people recieve it as and that's what people now percieve emo to be. Yes, it's not the pure emo that the original fans grew up with, and it's become commercialized and cheapened like most everything else and that sucks for the orignal fans, but the bottom line is it has adapted to the times just like any other subgenre. Anyway that's just how I see the current situation.
However that's really not my main intent on posting here, my real concern is the debate on whether or not New Found Glory is emo. I realize that you're a very passionate fan and you're just trying to protect the band's artistic integrity but the thing is we went through this exact same debate with the term "Grunge" over at the Smashing Pumpkins article some time ago. I'm not sure if you're familar with that band so let me briefly explain. I am a huge smashing pumpkins fan, the band first gained mainstream exposur eint he early 90's the same time that the seattle grunge scene was exploding in popularity. The band never considered themselves grunge, and they weren't even from the same region or musical background as most grunge artists, however since their music had some stylistic similarities to several grunge bands, that's what they were initially labelled as. The band of course hated this, but that's how the public percieved them for a time. Eventually the grunge fad began to fade and the band became well enough known off their musical merrits that the label was dropped. So over at the SP page we had a dilemma do we label them as grunge or not? Most of the fans were against it however we couldn't ignore the fact that for a time the label was part of their public identity. We ended up coming to a compromise, rather than sticking grunge under the infobox we instead just mentioned the genre confusion in passing in the body of the article. I believe the same should be done to this article. I realize that a lot of, possibly most, long term emo fans might not consider NFG to be "true emo" but that is term which the larger public associated them, and if you'll excuse me for saying so it does seem a bit presemptious to think that if the band themselves label themself as emo on their official site, we shouldn't at least mention it somewhere in the article. Again I realize that this article must mean a lot to you and you're just trying to keep it as factually accurate as possible but this is a compromise that has worked for a lot of other bands' articles and I believe that it would be well-suited here.
S. Luke 20:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I reduced the "members" section down to a a list, as it was absolutely full of extraneous detail on each member. If the person is notable enough outside the band, then there should be a separate article about them with these details. A complete bio of each member within an article about the band is completely unnecessary. Also, the individual promotional pictures of the members do not meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion under fair use guidelines. IllaZilla ( talk) 06:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I also took the "logo" out of the infobox. First of all, logos are not appropriate in infoboxes; if it was notable enough then it should be in a separate image box within the article, with a discussion of its significance. If there's no discussion of the logo, then it too fails fair use criteria. Also, it wasn't a logo but rather just a stylization of the band's name from one of their albums. NFG has no logo; their name appears in different stylizations on every album and no design is used consistently enough to be called a logo. Bad Religion and Pennywise, for example, have logos...NFG does not. -- IllaZilla ( talk) 04:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I created Chad Gilbert's article. -- Thebluesharpdude ( talk) 06:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
If you look some older pages of NFG's article, such as this, you find info about every member.-- ChancerBR ( talk) 13:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
A.K.A. the history section. -- Pwnage8 ( talk) 22:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I've added Emo to the band's list of genres. I realize that this may be seen as a controversial move by some. However the only evidence provided this page to prove that their not emo has been personal opinion, whereas I have included several reliable sources to back up my statement. Since Wikipedia is based on verifiability rather than opinion please discuss here before removing this information. Aurum ore ( talk) 22:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
ha ha, no. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.137.84 ( talk) 19:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
All I know is that NFG was sick of being compared by media with emo bands and being called emo. So the made Catalyst, and the song Intro, in which they say "Don't believe a word they say". IMHO, these sources about genres mean nothing. It's too subjective, and I think if the majority of real fans say it's melodic hard core, or punk rock, then they are melodic hc and punk rock. Period. Moreover, if even the band do not consider themselves emo (what they say on Intro), they are definitely not emo! ChancerBR ( talk) 16:42, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Hardcore should not be listed as a genre in the New Found Glory infobox. The 4 references used to justify this genre, do not even call NFG hardcore:
Because of the aforementioned reasons, I am removing the hardcore genre from the infobox. Please comment here or on my talk page if you disagree with my rationale. ŁittleÄlien¹8² ( talk\ contribs) 18:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
"On March 18, 2008, a compilation named Hits was released. Two previously unreleased songs, "Situations" and "Constant Static," are also featured on the album"
"Constant Static" was actually on the Catalyst album.
Melodic Hardcore —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammed212693 ( talk • contribs) 00:20, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Ian Grushka is the head bassist for New Found Glory. Often plays with his shirt off. Appeared on MTV Cribs on numerous occasions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bweather04 ( talk • contribs) 19:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
The Assocaiated Acts NEED to include Paramore. They have toured with paramore before, which in turn sparked the realationship with Hayley Williams and Chad Gilbert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telecasterization ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
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Could they simply be added as a pop punk band in the lead, it is what they are most known for. If not pop punk could punk rock be added? Dekai Averett ( talk) 03:22, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
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International Superheroes of Hardcore is not a supergroup but a short-lived parody side-project consisting of all the members of New Found Glory and nobody else. I see very slim-- if any-- significant reliable coverage independent from NFG coverage. --Animalparty! ( talk) 01:37, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
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"Stefanie Reines of Drive-Thru Records heard the album from the band Midtown and later re-released the album in 1999" Could someone please rewrite that sentance to be less confusing. Did the band Midtown pass a copy of NFG's album on to Stefanie? Or what else was it that happened?
Can we please stop putting James down for a current member? The band already announced that he is not part of the band anymore. New Found Glory only has five members. Source: [1] -- Sharpdust 22:25, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
Does anybody have any suggestions as to what is necessary for this article as well as New Found Glory-related articles. The singles chart has been added, the " This Disaster" article has been created, what else? More singles articles? I made the " All Downhill From Here" one but the only other one that I feel needs creation is "My Friends Over You". Maybe a category for New Found Glory albums? I don't think that "The Story So Far" DVD warrants an article, if somebody feels differently go for it. But anyways, if anybody's got some good suggestions, post them, there surprisingly is not a lot of discussion on this band. Sharpdust 07:32, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
These guys are totally emo, not remotely hardcore. Let's get this fixed.
Isn't 1 of their genres 'Emo' or something? Another genre debate.. but I gotta know. I mean, I was told they're Emo, and they even appeared on MTV2 on "So Emo-Tional"... Just need to know.. -Dor—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.178.208.233 ( talk • contribs) .
Alright, well I removed their genre Melodic Hardcore because the band is definitely the farthest thing from it. They have soft melodies, and sing extremely high-pitched. If you want to hear Melodic Hardcore try looking up some bands that are mentioned on the Melodic Hardcore wikipedia page, you’ll notice they sound nothing at all like New Found Glory. As much as it seems some of you would like this band to be hardcore and all that, they are not. Please just accept they are nothing more than a Pop-punk band and stop changing their genre. leave it the way it is. Thank you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.141.184.10 ( talk • contribs).
Alright I agree that they have some hardcore influence BUT since when does a band's genre come from what they're influenced by? If a band is influenced by Classical music does that put them in the classical genre? I don't think so, so why would the fact that a band is influenced by hardcore music doesn't set thim in the Melodic Hardcore genre? Scubster 03:05, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
The band has gone back to Drive-Thru Records according to their website. Maybe this change should be made to the professional career section. Everelusive 04:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Ellioteaton ( talk) 21:06, 24 March 2010 (UTC)There's a mistake in the linking- Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno redirects to this page as a "former member" if you click on his name from the Chicago Aldermen page.
I have created an article for my friends over you, mainly because this is their breakthrough song, at least onto the commercial scene, feel free to add or takeaway as long as it improves the article01:31, 21 August 2006 (UTC) Titch31
I think the members' seperate articles have been tagged "merge into New Found Glory" long enough (a Grushka article doesn't even exist) and there were mostly no opposing arguments against a move. I still don't think what little information is there on each member warrants an article on its own, so a merge would in my opinion be appropriate. I put a little temp page together at User:HarryCane/New_Found_Glory_members. I'm going to do my best and reference what's there, and I'd love it if we could somehow get a license-free headshot of each member (preferrably cropped from one photograph) to accompany their subsection. Let me know what you think. -- HarryCane 10:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
'My friends over you' was the last video ever played on Much Music before it changed its name to Fuse. We should add that to there somewhere. The Clydelishes Clyde 21:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Might also want to add that Steve Klein is married and has a daughter named Presley Rae. Everelusive 04:47, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
HarryCane, I found your comment about emo as a genre not existing anymore very interesting. I agree with you on several fronts, emo has become a very scene oriented medium and the term is being thrown around very haphazerdly these days. However I think it's premature to say that it's died as a musical genre, it might be very different than it was a decade ago, but there's still lots of music being produced, marketed and recieved as emo, in fact I think it's quite anaologous to what has happened with punk in general. Is the punk that high schoolers gorwing up in the 80's and 90's knew dead? If you judge by the commercial music industry, then yes. Go to any high school and you'll find that punk has become much more of an image, clique or in the music industy, umbrella term for several niche alternative rock genres, than it once was. And yet there are literally dozens of groups still producing music that is being labeled and recieved as punk. The same thing, I believe, can be said for emo. Emo as far as anyone in the mid 90's knew it may be gone, but the same can be said for punk, ska, goth rock or a multitude of other subgenres, heck alternative rock in general doesn't exist as we once knew it and yet the label is still carried on to the new generation. The fact is that many bands are producing music they label as emo, the record labels then market and sell that music as emo and the fans and radio stations recieve it as emo. It might not be emo in the classical sense but that's what people recieve it as and that's what people now percieve emo to be. Yes, it's not the pure emo that the original fans grew up with, and it's become commercialized and cheapened like most everything else and that sucks for the orignal fans, but the bottom line is it has adapted to the times just like any other subgenre. Anyway that's just how I see the current situation.
However that's really not my main intent on posting here, my real concern is the debate on whether or not New Found Glory is emo. I realize that you're a very passionate fan and you're just trying to protect the band's artistic integrity but the thing is we went through this exact same debate with the term "Grunge" over at the Smashing Pumpkins article some time ago. I'm not sure if you're familar with that band so let me briefly explain. I am a huge smashing pumpkins fan, the band first gained mainstream exposur eint he early 90's the same time that the seattle grunge scene was exploding in popularity. The band never considered themselves grunge, and they weren't even from the same region or musical background as most grunge artists, however since their music had some stylistic similarities to several grunge bands, that's what they were initially labelled as. The band of course hated this, but that's how the public percieved them for a time. Eventually the grunge fad began to fade and the band became well enough known off their musical merrits that the label was dropped. So over at the SP page we had a dilemma do we label them as grunge or not? Most of the fans were against it however we couldn't ignore the fact that for a time the label was part of their public identity. We ended up coming to a compromise, rather than sticking grunge under the infobox we instead just mentioned the genre confusion in passing in the body of the article. I believe the same should be done to this article. I realize that a lot of, possibly most, long term emo fans might not consider NFG to be "true emo" but that is term which the larger public associated them, and if you'll excuse me for saying so it does seem a bit presemptious to think that if the band themselves label themself as emo on their official site, we shouldn't at least mention it somewhere in the article. Again I realize that this article must mean a lot to you and you're just trying to keep it as factually accurate as possible but this is a compromise that has worked for a lot of other bands' articles and I believe that it would be well-suited here.
S. Luke 20:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I reduced the "members" section down to a a list, as it was absolutely full of extraneous detail on each member. If the person is notable enough outside the band, then there should be a separate article about them with these details. A complete bio of each member within an article about the band is completely unnecessary. Also, the individual promotional pictures of the members do not meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion under fair use guidelines. IllaZilla ( talk) 06:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I also took the "logo" out of the infobox. First of all, logos are not appropriate in infoboxes; if it was notable enough then it should be in a separate image box within the article, with a discussion of its significance. If there's no discussion of the logo, then it too fails fair use criteria. Also, it wasn't a logo but rather just a stylization of the band's name from one of their albums. NFG has no logo; their name appears in different stylizations on every album and no design is used consistently enough to be called a logo. Bad Religion and Pennywise, for example, have logos...NFG does not. -- IllaZilla ( talk) 04:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I created Chad Gilbert's article. -- Thebluesharpdude ( talk) 06:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
If you look some older pages of NFG's article, such as this, you find info about every member.-- ChancerBR ( talk) 13:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
A.K.A. the history section. -- Pwnage8 ( talk) 22:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I've added Emo to the band's list of genres. I realize that this may be seen as a controversial move by some. However the only evidence provided this page to prove that their not emo has been personal opinion, whereas I have included several reliable sources to back up my statement. Since Wikipedia is based on verifiability rather than opinion please discuss here before removing this information. Aurum ore ( talk) 22:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
ha ha, no. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.137.84 ( talk) 19:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
All I know is that NFG was sick of being compared by media with emo bands and being called emo. So the made Catalyst, and the song Intro, in which they say "Don't believe a word they say". IMHO, these sources about genres mean nothing. It's too subjective, and I think if the majority of real fans say it's melodic hard core, or punk rock, then they are melodic hc and punk rock. Period. Moreover, if even the band do not consider themselves emo (what they say on Intro), they are definitely not emo! ChancerBR ( talk) 16:42, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Hardcore should not be listed as a genre in the New Found Glory infobox. The 4 references used to justify this genre, do not even call NFG hardcore:
Because of the aforementioned reasons, I am removing the hardcore genre from the infobox. Please comment here or on my talk page if you disagree with my rationale. ŁittleÄlien¹8² ( talk\ contribs) 18:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
"On March 18, 2008, a compilation named Hits was released. Two previously unreleased songs, "Situations" and "Constant Static," are also featured on the album"
"Constant Static" was actually on the Catalyst album.
Melodic Hardcore —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammed212693 ( talk • contribs) 00:20, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Ian Grushka is the head bassist for New Found Glory. Often plays with his shirt off. Appeared on MTV Cribs on numerous occasions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bweather04 ( talk • contribs) 19:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
The Assocaiated Acts NEED to include Paramore. They have toured with paramore before, which in turn sparked the realationship with Hayley Williams and Chad Gilbert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telecasterization ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
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Could they simply be added as a pop punk band in the lead, it is what they are most known for. If not pop punk could punk rock be added? Dekai Averett ( talk) 03:22, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
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International Superheroes of Hardcore is not a supergroup but a short-lived parody side-project consisting of all the members of New Found Glory and nobody else. I see very slim-- if any-- significant reliable coverage independent from NFG coverage. --Animalparty! ( talk) 01:37, 1 April 2022 (UTC)